Let's Discuss Supplies!

[peter72393 0]

So I have been seeing a lot of people "drugging." People tend to complain about this so I started to think about it... I think that the players should only be aloud to use 5 or 7 of each drug per battle. They can buy as many as they want, and take as many as they want into battle. But can only use a certain amount. Then in the next battle the certain amount starts all over again. (Also keeping the time for regenerating the drug to use it again)

[TheGoldenTanker 4,951]

Today we are going to discuss supplies - also known as drugs to many other people.

 

You all probably know by now that there's five different types of supplies, and all which perform different actions.

 

You have:

 

- Double damage (doubles your turrets damage for 45 seconds)

 

- Double armour (doubles your hulls armour for 45 seconds)

 

- Repair kit (gives you your health back)

 

- Nitro/speed boost (makes both your hull and rotation speed of your turret go 30% faster)

 

- Mines (are planted on the floor which can kill an enemy instantly and unexpectedly)

 

Many people have many thoughts on supplies. Some think supplies are for "noobs who don't have any skills." Some think supplies are for "cowards." Some think supplies badly ruin the game it's self, and then you have some people who think that supplies are the best thing ever in Tanki! We all have our own different thoughts on supplies, all very different.

 

When one starts using supplies in a battle, the outcome of a battle can change as fast as Usain Bolt runs. You could be winning a CTF battle 4-0 one minute, and the next minute, you're losing 10-4 - all because people have started to use their supplies.

 

Now, are these people cheating? The answer is simply no - they're just playing the game as normal. Supplies are meant to be used, not just to be looked at and stared at like an ornament. And when one has plenty of supplies to use, well... make good use of them  ;) 

 

Don't be afraid to use your supplies and don't let those people who scream out "NOOB DRUGGER" stop you from playing the game of how you prefer to play.

 

Does using supplies in battles give you an advantage? - Yes! Of course it does. We can all agree that supply users change the outcome of a battle drastically, but when people say silly stuff like "drugs ruin the whole game" that's where it gets to a point of extreme ridicolousness.

 

Just because people are using their supplies, does not mean that Tanki is going to crumble and come crashing down like a drunk person on a bar-room floor.

 

"Druggers are noobs"

 

Now this is a saying that I see more than "Devs never listen to our ideas"

 

Ok Professor Einstein, explain this:

 

If druggers (and drugs in general) are so noob, then that double armour that you just picked up from off the floor and saved you from being one-shotted by an M4 Railgun on double damage... is that double armour noob?

 

That double damage that you just picked up from off the floor, are you going to call double damage noob after it just made your turret extremely over powered for 45 seconds?

 

That speed-boost that you just picked up from off the floor, are you going to call the speed-boost noob after it just made both your tank AND rotation speed of your turret 30% faster and that you was able to escape an enemy Freeze M3 quickly that was on your tail?

 

That gold box that you just barely caught after using a repair kit to stay alive - are you going to call a repair kit noob after it just saved you from being butchered like a pig and catching you 1,000 crystals?

 

That sneaky mine that you planted in a CTF battle to stun an enemy or kill them when you take the flag - are you going to call that mine noob after it just helped you deal with enemies on your tail and helped you capture a flag for your team?

 

^ The answer to all those questions is probably "no."

 

Supplies (when used effectively) could quite perhaps become a very helpful arsenal and can help you out A LOT.

 

Supplies have been part of Tanki since day one, and they're going to stay here forever - unchanged.

 

So the next time you think to type "noob drugger" - just think to yourself:  "are the drugs and druggers really noob, or are they just playing the game as usual?"  :) 

Edited November 20, 2015 by Unthinkable

[TheGoldenTanker 4,951]

^ Ok... I made a topic of my own, but everything that I said - word for word got merged with this topic ._.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Before my theory was made "THEY'RE EVILLLL!".

Now "They're a way to close the gap between M0 and M1."

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

I buy some and their gone in an hour  :(

[aggaire 10]

Pretty much every game I play now, I see drugging complaints.

 

Personally, I don't come down in either direction. Players who like drugs can use as many as they want, players who don't can avoid them.

 

What I don't understand is why Tanki doesn't support both users, by simply allowing us to set supply limits (or not) when creating battles. It would please both types of users, and would end once and for all of the complaints and arguments about drugging, which would improve the game for everyone.

Edited December 22, 2015 by aggaire

[illi2104 55]

The two most annoying things in TO are related to people's behavior in chats:

1) People who complain about using supplies

2) People who ask if gold box has dropped or beg for a gold box to be dropped

 

My opinion on these is

1) I use supplies only when I'm carrying the flag or trying to prevent an enemy from capturing my team's flag. Still I get complaints about my supply usage in almost every game. That sucks. Supplies are part of the game. You earn supplies by completing daily missions. Therefore they are honestly earned and you have full right to use them. If somebody even wants to pay real money for crystals and then buys supplies using those crystals, it's his business. I don't do that, but it's not my business to complain if someone does. So supply moaners should just shut up. You have an equal right to use supplies, too. If you cannot or don't want to, that's your problem.

2) I personally do not collect gold boxes, actually I hate them. But if someone does collect them, it still does not matter whether they have been dropped recently or not in a battle as they are documented to be dropped randomly and regardless of any administrator actions. So asking and begging for gold boxes is just plain annoying. In the middle of almost every battle there is at least one newcomer asking with bad English: "gold was?". And then there is always someone who even cares to answer to that. Extremely annoying.

 

Since own team discusses also important matters in the chat and there might sometimes be other interesting discussions in the chat, I cannot disable it.That really sucks.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

My response to the usual "OMG DRUGGER NOOB!":

One, I don't rely on them entirely.

Two, I had DD active, "DRUGGER NOOB" is not an appropriate response to your death.

Three, the goldbox is a distraction. I don't understand why five-thousand crystals I can make in a single game needs to be collected then and there.

Four; Oh, you didn't get that flag? Why don't you continue spamming "DRUGGER NOOOB". I bet you'll get the next one.

Five, I don't buy, I dominate.

Edited December 25, 2015 by The-Operator219

[Benefactor 6,888]

I use them if they use them. Otherwise, if you got me, you got me. I'll probably respawn behind you and get you back right then and there. :)

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Do you consider a mine as a "drug"?

 

I personally don't.  -_-

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Mine's aren't that bad, not commonly used at least.

[DevastationMode 23]

I like this game, but sometimes it's a pain in the butt when you come across players who can't play without excessive amount of drugs. They are doing bad for both teams. If they are in your team, then they will make you get less crystals by stealing your fair play, or finishing the battle really early. If they are on the opposite side, obviously you know the story. I know most of them are premium users, but personally I don't have anything against being a premium player. It's understandable if you pay, you get more privileges (in this case, double amount of crystals), and that's perfectly fine. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one playing for fun, and not the only one who'd like balanced, enjoyable battles, instead of pathetic 10 minute supply wars. The solutions:
From Tanki side:

1. The number of supplies can be limited in a battle. For example, players can use only 5 - 10 supplies in a battle.
2. Add a new option when creating battles, so the creator of the battle can chose with or without supplies on every map. 
All these while boxes are still available in every battle and on every map.

From players side:

 Simply leave the battle (both teams). If you're leaving, they won't get fund. It's not rocket science.

I know I'll get a lot of hate for this post, so bring it on. :D

Edited December 29, 2015 by DevastationMode

[E.Leclerc 1,887]

Good point mate. :)

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

there is a pro battle option to disable supplies, and keep bonus boxes on ;) and 5-10 supplies is too little... In higher ranks drug wars are amazing :p but Ye in lower ranks it's a prob cos very few ppl drug, so the ones who do get a whole lot more fund and XP. Also, if you leave the battle, you will be leaving all the fund for them :p

[Capable 4,614]

Pro Pass. If you can't afford drugs or a pro battle pass then deal with it.

[dilsharox 2,395]

Good point mate. :)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

And see now I'm the minority everyone hates, it's not so bad.

[Lone_Eagle 8]

My stage of Tanki:

1. I hate pay2play games

2. Tanki is a pay2play game

3. I love Tanki

4. Drugs make Tanki a pay2play game

 

Conclussion: Tanki is an arcade game, not realistic. Drugs make the game money, so they will not take away drugs (in fact they took away drug kits, but brought them back eventually), so if you dont like it.... Go play WoT. Come back after realizing nobody got time for that, and learn to love Tanki in spite of its shortcomings. (and stock up drugs without spending money so I can combat druggers when the time comes.) 

 

P.S Also wiating till I get to M4s before buying pro battle passes.

Edited January 2, 2016 by Lone_Eagle

[LaserShark 2,095]

The reason drugging is so annoying on ones own team is it completely annihilates the rest of your teams battle fund. This was a bigger problem back before they re-balanced the way battle fund was distributed, it used to be a piece of cake to run in and rob your own teams battle fund with a pile of drugs. Sure, you could be on the winning team, but the druggers still take all the loot.

Here's a screenshot showing the problem. It would have been better to be on the enemy team than to be on the team with that obnoxious little noob known as LaserShark taking all the loot:

 

[Drunk 29]

Do you consider a mine as a "drug"?

 

I personally don't.  -_-

No, because a mine does not enhance/alter the abilities of my hull, turret or paint. 

[tre48 1]

ok my opnion is get rid of double Armour and double damage because this is ridiculous every battle i go into theres alot of tanker who use drugs if u really want a real battle you take the double damage and double Armour away then we shall know how good tanki is becuase its pathetic having these supplies. i mean when u get to a certain rank the double damage and double armour should be taken away. but it allows you to keep helath regeneration and mines becuase i love mines a lot. 

 

[ats_the_best77 0]

whenever i decide to start a new account, or play my recent account, people are always complaining that up graders or "druggers" play unfair and should leave. why do they say that? Do they not realize that's the way you should play?  :huh: 

[Maf 32,306]

whenever i decide to start a new account, or play my recent account, people are always complaining that up graders or "druggers" play unfair and should leave. why do they say that? Do they not realize that's the way you should play?  :huh: 

Topic merged

 

You are completely correct. There is nothing wrong with using supplies and using them does not automatically make you a "coward" or less skilled. The only reason people despise druggers is because most of the time they can't afford to buy supplies and therefore can't answer to druggers by using their own. They get destroyed and complain.

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Topic merged

 

You are completely correct. There is nothing wrong with using supplies and using them does not automatically make you a "coward" or less skilled. The only reason people despise druggers is because most of the time they can't afford to buy supplies and therefore can't answer to druggers by using their own. They get destroyed and complain.

Exactly. I will sometimes buy a few drugs ( not often though sense I get enough from missions) but I will occasionally drug if I am in a team battle so that we will win

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

But I don't complain if someone else drugs (unless they are constantly non stop drugging)