Let's Discuss Supplies!

[41tkbat 52]

I think playing should be about the best to win and fun for everybody. Drugging and druggers ruin that.A couple of years ago your own team would punish  you if you drugged constantly. they wiould psuh you from bridges or block you. As long as "players" can buy drugs drugging is not fair. For instance: I am an adult and make pretty much money. Therefor I can buy a lot of drugs. With them i can be on at least 2 drugs all the time. That way i can "win" a lot of battles and buy my "victory". And yes "win" and "victory" are written thsi way on purpose. You dont win when constantly on drugs. and therefor there si no victory for you. Your drugs "win" and they have a "victory".Unfortunately some "players"' think they can behave anti-social and rude being anonymous at teh internet and therefor think they can ruin battles by extreme drugging. And also typical: when you say something about it they tell you to shut up, tell you things about your family, or just behave even worse. So they must havepsychiatric problems like a certain level of psychopathy I allways wonder how they would behave if they were face to face when they were adressed. Dont think they woudl be so brave / rude then.

[41tkbat 52]

Topic merged

 

You are completely correct. There is nothing wrong with using supplies and using them does not automatically make you a "coward" or less skilled. The only reason people despise druggers is because most of the time they can't afford to buy supplies and therefore can't answer to druggers by using their own. They get destroyed and complain.

MAFIOSO,  you really have no clue. About it being unfair: read my previous post.And what you write about not being able to buy drugs: Read my oprevious post and: i am teh leader of a clan for adults. Most of us make nice money and could buy loads of drugs. But we dont. Why not? Read my previous post. Sad you have your job on tanki. You really have no clue whats it about

 

And whats even worse and very stupid of tanki: By designing the game like this drugging they chased away a lot of players. Thats simply bad for business. Bad players wioth a lot of drugs get through ranks fast. And about druggers being less skilled: on average they are. And I will tell you why: Druggers depend on drugs so much they dont need to be as good as non-druggers. Thats why they on avergae are worse players then non-druggers. People who have been playing tanki for more then 3 years see the difference since drugging was "not done" 3 years ago.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Maf
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[41tkbat 52]

Bottomline: Playing is suppost to be un for all players involved. Losing or winning: it is not the purpose of playing. Having fun is. The best team or player should win. Not the player with the most drugs. I have my own company and could by drugs for hundreds of dollars a month but that is not the point of playing. Having fun for all players is and druggers do not want or respect that. Anti-social people who feel safe hiding behind their screen ruin nice battles. Even worse: when you are playing longer battles groups of players jump into the losing team and drug their ass of to collect the battlefund. Disgusting!. Unfortunately some peole don't understand the basics of playing. Feel pitty for them. They lack social skills and didn learn how to behave civilized. With that attitude they can not be succesffull in real life. Tanki isn't intelligent enough to realize lots of players stop playing. They look at the crystals sold but don't understand they couldmake a lot more money if they would put more restrictions on drugging. Ever considered playing World of Tanks?

[The-Operator219 1,929]

So here's what I've gathered: Smart cooldowns have made it to where they can't use all three supplies at once in quick succession, but they can still use all three at once through well-timed button mashing.

So more or less they only let you light one joint every ten seconds. You can still smoke a joint legally, but now you have to wait.

Also, since they're not using all their supplies quickly: It's making the supplies go away slower, ensuring a single pack of three-hundred supplies lasts a long while. So they've both empowered and educated druggers at the same time.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

 

Well, I can't say for a lot of people, but many of the tankers I know actually don't make a lot of money and can't buy drugs. Therefore, we honestly can't sell out to the devs for advantages like so many druggers do. We play the game to alleviate stress, have fun, etc., but when we get dominated by pay-to-win players, it's less fun and more frustrating.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Maf

[D34th_Knight 0]

DRUGGER!!! probably something you hear every game of tanki. Most people dont understand that it is part of the game. Also there should be more supplies you can buy. eg. Faster reload dru, eg. light drug/ heavy drug (making you lighter of heavier). Also the random 10 crystal drops should come back. It was fun to pick up 10 crystals and say to yourself "Yes! 10 crystals less to get for XXXXXX"

[KrystenHunt16 128]

People say that "drugs are the life-blood of Tanki", as a large portion of Tanki's revenues comes from people buying drugs. In reality, drugs are killing Tanki -- making tons of players leave because they can't/don't want to buy drugs.

 

Back in 2014, it was uncommon to see less than 200,000 players online at any given time. Now there's fewer than 50,000. Clearly there's something wrong.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Just curious... Does Nitro speed up the cooldown times of the other drugs?

[KrystenHunt16 128]

Just curious... Does Nitro speed up the cooldown times of the other drugs?

Nitro's cooldowns are a bit faster than most other drugs'. For example, if you use DA, you have to wait 1 minute before you can use another DA, 30 seconds before you can use a DD, and 15 seconds before you can use a Nitro.

 

However, if you use a Nitro, you hve to wait 1 minute before you can use another Nitro, 15 seconds before you can use a DD, and 15 seconds before you can use a DA.

 

So it doesn't speed it up, it's just not as long.

[41tkbat 52]

People say that "drugs are the life-blood of Tanki", as a large portion of Tanki's revenues comes from people buying drugs. In reality, drugs are killing Tanki -- making tons of players leave because they can't/don't want to buy drugs.

 

Back in 2014, it was uncommon to see less than 200,000 players online at any given time. Now there's fewer than 50,000. Clearly there's something wrong.

I agree. I started playing in November 2013. At that time your own team would block you opr psuh you of a bridge to punish you for drugging. Then battles were more fun, the atmosphere was a lot nicer, more people played, almost no anti social behaviour, not as much namecalliung or shut ups. Nowadays a lot of [people think they are tough by using faul language and insulting other people. Also remakable: when you say something about drugging druggers start being rude and/or anoying. Says something about their caracter. They wont get far in real life with that attitude.

[Activity 10]

I dont use much drugs partly because i want to save up for pro battle drug wars and also i only use drugs when there is gold or my team is losing and time is running out.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I dont use much drugs partly because i want to save up for pro battle drug wars and also i only use drugs when there is gold or my team is losing and time is running out.

The above reasons are what they're MADE for.

Not stomping helpless people into the ground and incinerating those who actually fight them.

[xX22JUSTIN22Xx 19]

okay, powerups either need to be nerfed or they need to be taken out of the game when it comes to inventory. I was in a game earlier were the other team was just using powerup after powerup. they got us 8-1, either they had GREAT luck with getting those powerups, or they were using the powerups everytime they spawned, and its not JUST that they were beating us, it wa sthe fact that every person I was faced with had them. im not taking about taking them COMPLETELY, but from the hotbar. because games like that are really annoying. change the drops to the good old days with crystal drops, and add more gold boxes, I have seen gold boxes in 4 games in my 2 years of playing tanki, really sad when people abuse the powerups, so, solutions

 

1. take them out of the game COMPLETELY (not REALLY what I want, but they are getting out of hand)

2. take them away from the hotbar

3. make it rarer to get in the missions (and add more crystal missions)

4. nerf them (right now they are super over powered anyway)

 

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Even better solution that has been suggested before limit the amount the you can use per round (you can pick up as many as you want from the ground but you can only a set amount from you supply of drugs)

[Jwimmer 2,835]

Hmmm take away the 1-2-3-4-5 options but keep drops? Sounds like  PRO battle to me. If it bothers you so much, invest 5k cry to get a pro pass (or just buy some drugs (not called powerups btw) yourself)

[I3ANNED 1,693]

PRO battles have a feature where all drugs including dropzones can be turned off or dropzones stay on but drugs from hotbar are off and the other way around as well.

Edited March 6, 2016 by I3ANNED

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I don't think they should be removed either, they're fine, it's just the people who use them all at once.

So here's my suggestion: Make them only usable ONE AT A TIME! Like their intended purpose: A boost!

[TG159 734]

I don't think they should be removed either, they're fine, it's just the people who use them all at once.

So here's my suggestion: Make them only usable ONE AT A TIME! Like their intended purpose: A boost!

No, 3 at a time max maybe? (not counting mines) so u cant have all 3 and then repair.

 

actually starcth that i like it the way it is :)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

So the exact same thing as it is right now? .-.

Even if the maximum was three, that's still DD or DA and a repair kit, so it's not changing a thing.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Seeing two "rants" I came up with my own rant...

when I join a battle I dont go full blown into drugs.... when its just me and another tanker I let my m4 take care of him. But when I see his supply usage....ok.... I dont go calling him drugger, if he wants to enter the drug wars ill let him because I like drug wars. So in responce to his drugging I drug back ( part of the game... dont like it.... get pro) (side note... in 1 vs 1 I dont drug... but when enemy is a drugger ((dont mind)) I warn him that he doesnt want to enter that aspect of the game because he will regret it, 20k drugs and skill [yes, I just said skill when talking about drugs] in drugging is not something a simple drugger wants to face). Then after I drug back more players join and accuse me of drugging and ruining game despite their team member starting the battle in drug mode. Also when I drug slightly and then someone calls me a drugger Ill drug harder.... if he says im a drugger hes right................

 

Note im not

A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_A_N from ArcadeEsports.... just so you dont think that that absolute pro is a drugger (even though he might). I am robroshowits .... robro

[Maf 32,300]

 

Topic merged.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Thanks mafioso

Edited March 14, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[BabyLou 1,881]

Supplies - best thing in this game

[Gigalink 116]

Seeing two "rants" I came up with my own rant...

when I join a battle I dont go full blown into drugs.... when its just me and another tanker I let my m4 take care of him. But when I see his supply usage....ok.... I dont go calling him drugger, if he wants to enter the drug wars ill let him because I like drug wars. So in responce to his drugging I drug back ( part of the game... dont like it.... get pro) (side note... in 1 vs 1 I dont drug... but when enemy is a drugger ((dont mind)) I warn him that he doesnt want to enter that aspect of the game because he will regret it, 20k drugs and skill [yes, I just said skill when talking about drugs] in drugging is not something a simple drugger wants to face). Then after I drug back more players join and accuse me of drugging and ruining game despite their team member starting the battle in drug mode. Also when I drug slightly and then someone calls me a drugger Ill drug harder.... if he says im a drugger hes right................

 

Note im not

A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_A_N from ArcadeEsports.... just so you dont think that that absolute pro is a drugger (even though he might). I am robroshowits .... robro

I react very similarly to you when it comes to druggers. I don't waste my drugs since my equipment and skill should carry me through, but then when someone thought they can get good advantage with drug, then they have to face against drugs AND skill! The funniest thing is when a tanker with crappy equipment starts drugging. I then put him in his place! > :) Normally when I see a drugger, I usually say something like, "Nice repairman" or "It's nice having a mechanic huh?" Then when I drug them back and kill the stupid drugger, I then say, "Wow, that Double Armor sure helped you!" or "You're not the only one with a mechanic you know?" or "Shouldn't have drugged, now you are dead and I'm killing your team!"

Edited March 15, 2016 by Gigalink

[vansh10 34]

Tanki Drugs

 

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DISCLAIMER-'I don't says that drugs should be removed/nerfed, neither do I support their abuse.

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FOREWORD:I do not add any humour in my post for I do not wish people to take this matter as a joke.That is the reason why i do not use abbreviations or emoticons.Do not take me to be a person of monotonous nature, i am quite lively and have an okay sense of writing, for a not only like it, i enjoy it.This post is my hope that some moderator will read it fully and grasp its meaning.I do not write this to change the system, but to spread awareness.I got my inspiration to write from Brubook and his post -http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?s=2a7b7b466af6b528043c3379417c8ffd&showtopic=246957&page=1

I saw the furious debates and numerous counter-arguments and thought a lot about it, going through hundreds of pages and seeing all the points was neither easy nor too much fun for every new post repeated the same things, but nonetheless they were inspiring.They embedded in me the feeling that i had to write something, to make them all understand, to make them all know.Here is the result of my hard work and I hope you all like it.

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1.)WHAT ARE DRUGS?

It is the unofficial name for supplies aka Health Kit, Double Power, Double Armour, Nitro and Mine(Though the latter is not considered to be either a drug or a over-powered by the majority of players).For better appeal to readers, I shall be referring to them as drugs.

 

2.)WHAT DO THEY DO?

Health Kit:

*Cost:150 crystals

*Puts you to full health and heals you for 2-3 sec more in case you are damaged.Also removes effects like afterburn and overheating.

DOUBLE ARMOUR:

*Cost:50 crystals

*Doubles your fire power.

DOUBLE ARMOUR:

*Cost:50 crystals

*Doubles your hit points/Halves any damage on your tank.

NITRO:

*Cost:50 crystals

*Increases your speed by 30%

MINE:

*Cost:50 crystals

*Causes massive damage to any hostile tank that treads over it.

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3.)HOW DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TANKERS SEE THEM?

A.)EARLY TANKERS(M0 players):

*In the beginning these drugs are not available, but within 30 minutes of productive gameplay, all of these are unlocked one-by-one.

*Some new players tend to use all of their supplies right away, and who can blame them.What is better than blowing off your enemies with a single shot of thunder or railgun, or putting on a double armour when entering with the enemy base, or rushing away with their flag with the nitro on?Health kits are extremely addictive due to immediate results and mines for their knack of destroying stalkers.

*Most players have blown all their supplies by their third battle, they now take one of the three routes-

A.1.)I want drugs:

Very few people come in this group for their is no need, everyone plays like noobs and everyone enjoys.

A.2.)I will use drugs whenever i have any:

Again very few people for most realise that 1-2 drugs won't get them many points, its better to save them.

A.3.)I will be saving mine drugs for better occasions:

Majority of players do this for they realise that drugs could seriously turn the game, it is better to save them for when the rewards are high and choices low.These keep on saving till they reach mid tanker stage.

B.)MID GAME TANKERS(M1 players):

*Most have 100-200 drugs each as they are of group A3.

*Some who belong to A1 have 1000+ drugs each.

*Those belonging to A2 either leave the game or start saving.

*At this stage drugs use suddenly rises, all A1 members dominate and rise quickly in battles.

*Most tankers can not spare crystals for drugs as M2s are expensive.

*Only buyers are using drugs regularly, rest either have used all of theirs in anger or are still saving up.

*Frustration builds up in non-buyers and a phrase becomes common in public chat during battle- noob druggee or noob nameofturrentandhull -

*Some players leave in despair.

C.)LATE GAME TANKERS(M2 players):

*By now most players have 1000+ drugs each, even non-buyers.

*A2 group members do not survive this far,thus we will now form the two remaining groups:

C.1.)Buyers

C.2.)Non-Buyers

*Buyers are referred to as -Paying Mass-

*Non-Buyers are referred to as -Critical Mass-

*Buyers keep the developers happy.

*Non-Buyers keep the game alive.

*Both are necessary on certain proportions, so that the game keeps on going smoothly.

*At this stage non-buyers only play the game to get M3 combo with a decent paint and move on to pro-battles where the drugs are not allowed.

*Druggers increase even more drastically.

D.)VETERANS(M3 players):

*Non-Buyers happily go to pro-battles and enjoy drug free battles.

*Buyers kill any non-buyers in drug battles, thus it becomes a stage where druggees compete with druggees.

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4.)WHAT NON-BUYERS WANT:

*NERFED POWERS OF DRUGS

*INCREASED SMART COOL TIMERS

*FREE/CHEAP PRO-PASS BATTLES

*PROMOTION OF DRUG FREE BATTLES BY THE DEVELOPERS

*REMOVAL OF SUPPLY KITS WHICH GIVE 80% DISCOUNT ON DRUGS

*A LIMIT TO MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DRUGS USED IN A BATTLE BY A PLAYER

*AND MOST OF ALL

-----------A WEEKS REMOVAL OF ALL DRUGS, FOR THEN PLAYERS AND DEVELOPERS WILL SEE WHHOSE VIEWS ARE BETTER----------

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5.)WHAT DO THE DRUGS DO TO A NORMAL BATTLE?

*Enhance gameplay

*Creates more opportunities

*Makes the battles unique and interesting

*Substitutes for luck when a plan/strategy fails.

*Gets one out of messy situations.

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6.)WHAT DOES ABUSE OF DRUGS DO TO A NORMAL BATTLE?

*Frustrates opposition

*Kills the sense of equals

*Causes people to leave

*Causes revolt by the people who suffer in chats which leads to abuses and bans.

*Make battles senseless and boring for non-druggers.

*Changes the course of a battle

*The skill factor is replaced by money

*Rants are seen and people start to think of Tanki as a pay-to-win and in some cases, kind of pay-to-play battle where you have a chance of winning.

*Drugs are seen as match concluders.

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7.)MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON THIS TOPIC:

All that i wrote till now was bases on certain observances and a lot of writing in the forum, now what i write is what i feel in this situation.This is my message to druggers-

 

'We all play tanki for having fun and enjoying ourselves, i feel that there is nothing wrong in buying drugs and using them to your benefit. But please i plead you to use them judiciously and only when needed.This will not only make games funner for you but also the opponents will appreciate your decision. The statement that I HAVE A LOT OF DRUGS, SO I WILL USE THEM ALL THE TIME IS LIKE SAYING THAT I WILL WASTE WATER BECAUSE I CAN.I just want you to know that your over drugging causes grief to others.I wish to experience a game where all have at least some chance of survival.I all comes down upon you, you have to make the correct decision.Are you willing to sacrifice others fun for your easy game?

Please think from our point of view, i know we all love to one hit K.O. opponents but that is not run for others, we all deep down inside our brains, love to dominate for we were born like this, we like to be the best, but we have to conquer it.If you have to best then be best within your league, drug continuously only in all drug battles but please not in normal battles.

It is not the nerfs and other changes that can do something unless you all realise that what you do is not right.Just once try to play a battle without drugs when the opponent drugs continuously and you will see what I mean.This is my humble request to all of your kind.'

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Thats it for this one, please leave post as in how i can improve this post further.I would really appreciate if Brubook or Rustynail would comment on my view and this post.I have got to sleep now been writing for 5 hours

Lastly: MODERATORS AND IF I AM LUCKY THEN ADMINS, PLEASE DO COMMENTS ON MY VIEWS IF YOU READ THIS, I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR VIEWS TOO. I WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR CRITICISM THAN HEARING NOTHING AT ALL FROM YOU PEOPLE.

 

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PS: My rank is not very high, but i am a very old player and an even older forum reader.

 

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