Let's Discuss Supplies!

[wolverine848 13,097]

I just quickly checked one server and found 

 

 

Maybe your looking in the wrong place but im sure i count more than 3  :wacko:​ 

I don't play during the day.  Waaaaaay less people online in evening.

 

But you seem to think Pro Pass great idea. Would you support having Pro Pass for supplies and regular battles for no supplies?

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

What will be the excuse next? the sky is too blue?

The fact is, you are not even trying to understand.  You are trying to resist and actively shutting out any argument. This kind of argument gets nowhere and just makes people angry.

 

 

I Suggest we stop arguing about this, on any topic, as none of us will change our mind, before we all start hating each other.  Please follow my advice.

Edited November 17, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[wolverine848 13,097]

What will be the excuse next? the sky is too blue?

No answer to my question?

[illi2104 55]

Simple way to prevent any of this... no chat allowed between teams. You can talk to your own team for strategy.

But why chat with other team during game? You're wasting time and not really playing - seen that A LOT.

 

You wanna  chat with everyone? Exit game and chat on the server. That's the appropriate place.

I'm not sure if that is a good idea but I really appreciate you brought it up in a constructive way, thank you for that. At least my children seem to want to chat with their friends during battles regardless of whether they are on the same side or not. They want to laugh together when something funny happens etc. That may be wasting of time but the ultimate purpose of the game is for everyone to have fun after all, right? On the other hand the most fanatic supply haters abuse players even in their own team, although that is a much less common case.

[illi2104 55]

It's not abuse - it's trash talk. They do not have to be mutually inclusive.  It can be one and not the other.

I understand that sometimes good friends talk to each other in a bit rough way in real life, it kind of expresses their friendship. But in Tanki chat, yelling 'drugger' together with the nickname of someone you don't know, have never met and never talked with (you don't even know what language(s) s/he talks) is always and exclusively abuse (for the sake of easier implementation of ban automation). If someone really wants to express his love to another player by calling her a drugger, he can certainly live with the fact that it cannot be done in Tanki chat :)

[illi2104 55]

So you admit that dissatisfied players should complain to devs on the forum and not to noob druggers in-game? Because that's what Gabe2607 is actually doing daily alongside thousands of other moaners... :rolleyes:

Not targeting this at Gabe, that just reminds me: a 5 minute ban would of course not be enough for the professional abusers who keep breaking the rules and manners despite of the bans they get. The system should keep track of the bans and their reasons and if the same account needs to be banned again (for the same reason maybe?), the ban duration should gradually increase.

Edited November 17, 2016 by illi2104

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

So you admit that dissatisfied players should complain to devs on the forum and not to noob druggers in-game? Because that's what Gabe2607 is actually doing daily alongside thousands of other moaners... :rolleyes:

So you tell us to go complain to devs about the supplies mechanism on the forum instead of calling out druggers in-game, then you call us "whiners" for doing so.  Logic!!!! 

Edited November 17, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Gabe2607 499]

Oh boy...

 

The most important is not that mods did their job but the improvement of your attitude in-game.

As for the "provocation" part, you're the one who joins standard battles without the intention to use supplies and starts insulting players who dare to use them.

So I am provoking in NOT using supplies... that is a pretty twisted concept... Or is it because I offend others? No because... also your nick appears MANY times in Chat Violations...

 

Drugger isn't an official term, just a noun invented by moaners players to rage at call someone who uses supplies. Feel free to check every official articles, you'll see they mention "supplies" and not "drugs" :P

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Game_mechanics

By the way, some people tried to educate players about it... In vain :lol:
 

I think Mafioso explained it too many times why you are a drugger. Interesting you still did not know it...

 

Most of players who don't use supplies don't spend money either, why showing empathy to dissatisfied free-users?

Most successful websites are based on free users. Good you do not manage them...

 

It seems you dont learn from your bans though, Oh and if you think this 'mom' thing is a way you can insult me it really isnt, All its doing is showing everyone how immature you really are, I mean this is playground stuff and you say you are how old?  :blink:

 

Ahahaahhaha..... this is the provocation I was talking about, LOL ! I knew you were waiting the moment, as you were keeping constantly provoking that day and check how I paid attention not to fall into your childish trap. Hope mom is ok, by the way :D

 

Well I actually only posted a small portion of the chat, Previously all Gabe2607 did was complain that people where 'noob druggers' hence the reason for me posting what I did. Call what I said whatever you like but as you can see I never insulted nor provoked anyone  -_-

Since you never insulted anyone how comes you got 16 nominations in Chat Violations and a funny one in Game Violations? They are not from me... And if you do not provoke how comes you are ready to tape chat conversations?

 

So you admit that dissatisfied players should complain to devs on the forum and not to noob druggers in-game? Because that's what Gabe2607 is actually doing daily alongside thousands of other moaners... :rolleyes:

Drugs are not enough to kill me? You need mods to do it for you?

 

If all the players who hate supplies ("the majority" according to them) would buy a PRO pass there would be more than three PRO battles available :rolleyes:

Get it clear: 1) the majority of players use drugs. Tons of players left the game because of drugs so they have no voice anymore. And number of users keeps falling. Made the connection? 2) Why non buyers should buy a pass, when buyers would be happy to do it?

 

Not targeting this at Gabe, that just reminds me: a 5 minute ban would of course not be enough for the professional abusers who keep breaking the rules and manners despite of the bans they get. The system should keep track of the bans and their reasons and if the same account needs to be banned again (for the same reason maybe?), the ban duration should gradually increase.

I have no problem with bans and mods doing their job. The only ban I got drove me nuts simply because there was no explanation (something like "You broke the rules" and a link to a bunch of generic rules), no signature and I had to find it out on my own about that chat above shown happened days before.

 

SMARTEST COMMENT WAS BY I_already_won but I do not think I can follow it :D
 

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

So you tell us to go complain to devs about the supplies mechanism on the forum instead of calling out druggers in-game, then you call us "whiners" for doing so.  Logic!!!! 

People lack that these days...best solution is to drug right back...if people can't grasp that simple solution...I don't know what to tell them.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

People lack that these days...best solution is to drug right back...if people can't grasp that simple solution...I don't know what to tell them.

That's just the problem...the game has been introducing updates that make it harder and harder for non-buyers to drug right back, as you say it.  And if everyone drugs the same amount (as fast as they can) what's the point? It kills the advantage you get.  And yes, people do lack logical thinking skills these days.

[T-34-3m 360]

Gabe Newel is a manchild confirmed.

[Gabe2607 499]

I never provoked anyone that day  :wacko:

 

 

And i suggest you go back and do your homework and read those '17' reports on me and see actually how many i where banned for  -_-

 

 

F- for your homework on me  :rolleyes:

 

 

And btw i wasnt saying ive never been banned, and what i was saying is that Ive never provoked nor insulted anyone in the chat i posted unlike you  :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

How old did you say you where again?  :blink:

Not insulting and not provoking, eh? Concerning Forum and links I am noob, so I apologize to do it the "primitive way":

 

1) 10 June 2016: Player DejectedTomato has been banned. Provocation

2) 23 April 2016: Player is already banned. Swearing in match

3) 16 April 2016: Player has been banned. Provocation. Sexual content

4) 08 January 2016: Banned. Insult/profane

5) 07 December 2015: Banned. Insults/profanity

6) 11 October 2015: Banned

 

All other times you escaped because it is really difficult to provide a complain with all the (strange to me) rules set by the game. I tried once and decided to never try anymore. Vice versa you took the time to download the software required and became professional on that matter. You tried to ban me also two days ago: talking about moaners and whiners... :D

[wolverine848 13,097]

Well if you're not going to answer mine why should i answer yours  :P

Thought it was rhetorical ... but... I'll bite.  Not blue at all - dark - unless you consider night sky a shade of blue. In that case... too blue.

 

When I'm online to play there are not nearly that many battles - not even close.

I have huge doubts i could ever complete half my daily missions on the pro pass battles.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

The longer someone is banned, the longer he's frustrated. Frustrated players don't spend money.

Bans do gradually increase... go have the system ban an account for flood (5 minues) and as soon as thats up ban it again for flood and youll see its an hour. If someone is banned for the same reason within a day after the old ban expires the ban time drastically increased. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

On the other hand the most fanatic supply haters abuse players even in their own team, although that is a much less common case.

I've encountered this.

 

I typically only use supplies as a "counter". When the other team is using lots of supplies you have to use some, or leave. Otherwise you can't compete.

But on rare occasions some team-mates have started "yelling" at me for using supplies. it's lose-lose.

 

I don't have an issue with supplies in general. They are part of the game. They can generate funds for the devs to keep game going.

But I feel they go too far. Doubling the power is too much, and creates an in-game imbalance. Which is why so many games end up 9-1 or 100-23.

 

I would like to see supplies at +50% power. Gives a boost but not a ridiculous boost.

 

The dying and spawning - repeat due to the incredible damage inflicted with DD just seems silly to me.

Takes away any semblance of flow.

Edited November 17, 2016 by wolverine848

[Gabe2607 499]

You can complain/moan/whine/cry/sob all over the forum as you like, we're simply asking for upset players not to whine during standard battles where supplies are enabled

 

 

 

He pretends to be 48, Twitter says 36 (and Skype says he's a she)

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL you are really stalking me... but your searching results... do you know those rarely times you forget to drug? Same disaster :P

 

PS.: in the dancing picture I recognize you, DejectedTomato and AbsoluteZero. Who is the fourth?

[Maf 32,324]

Yeah yeah, I knew I explained it somewhere at least once before.

[Gabe2607 499]

You are being watched...

 

46 minutes taping chat to get someone banned... unsuccessful, he tries to get the Moderator removed... Wondering why some users get insulted so much... :D

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRjvBR9evRE

[inthehouse81 34]

Try backreading a bit.

 

Choose a different game?  What do you mean?  A different battle?  How will that battle be different from the one I just left?

Different game as in WoT or War Thunder, Tanki is not going to change how drugs work. You can discuss this in here, not complain.

[Gabe2607 499]

Of course they can! But the main problems are:

• Upset players blame those who use supplies in standard battles
• They mostly complain to noob druggers in-game and not to devs on the forum
• Most of complainers will never consider spending money and therefore have no right to criticise something they get for free nor those who pay for them

 

Again, and this is probably the third time I point it out, plenty of criticism on the most successful websites which are totally free... Druggers just want to win, no matter how: buying shortcuts, abuse of drugs, clanning, trapping/provoking and silencing or inducing to ban the obstacles. On the other side people who strive for one thing only: skills.

[illi2104 55]

Could somebody from the staff please let me know if you have seen and read my message/proposal and are you considering it? Thank you.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Could somebody from the staff please let me know if you have seen and read my message/proposal and are you considering it? Thank you.

Considering it? Lol they would lose about half their players. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Different game as in WoT or War Thunder, Tanki is not going to change how drugs work. You can discuss this in here, not complain.

No thanks.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Well if you're not going to answer mine why should i answer yours  :P

I did answer your (rhetorical) question. But you still haven't answered mine.

 

Also - even though I don't play during day-time hours I'm curious - what server were your screen-shots taken from. Can't tell from picture.

[inthehouse81 34]

Of course they can! But the main problems are:

• Upset players blame those who use supplies in standard battles
• They mostly complain to noob druggers in-game and not to devs on the forum
• Most of complainers will never consider spending money and therefore have no right to criticise something they get for free nor those who pay for them

Yeah true lol they can complain but I've been following this topic for a month now and all I hear are these nooby comments, it annoys me, just drug what you can. I can't say "noob drugger", because I think I drug a bit too much. But why are these M2 ranks like me complaining, I drug, moderately, I get a high K/D, my current K/D is under 1.00 but that's because I was grinding for my first M2 (Isida M2). The only reason I'm here is because they removed the 1500 drug kit, and as I don't spend real money, I am stuck, all my drugging dreams are gone. So I'm good at XP/BP so i'm going to switch to that. I guess I was one of the "moaners" at the beginning but now I guess there is not point arguing. By the way, I'm 13, smartness comes with age, not with ranks *cough cough Gabe cough cough*. And I often get called "noob drugger buyer", just because I know how to manage crystals everyone thinks I'm a buyer... What has this game come to, RIP Tanki 2014 (when I joined).

Edited November 18, 2016 by inthehouse81