Let's Discuss Supplies!

[Lankero 595]

Someone already explained didn't they? I mean you said 15 battles immediately indicates that there are plenty of choices out there? I mean its not like at least 90% of those battles would be either XP/BP, XP, BP, DR, Parkour. And the remaining battles; wouldn't they be contaminated with noob, oh I mean ''PRO'' druggers that need supplies to kill an M2 while they are M4? I mean just read someone else's comment:

 

 

The fact that you think supplies require skill... And you think by pressing ''buy'' on your screen you are a PRO... well... Yeah..

1) It wasn't me who said that, so please don't insult me for things that I didn't even do. Who's dumber than a tree now? :) 

2) You might be on RU1 if you claim 90% PRO battles are XP/BP. But yeah those are for skill-less noobs too who would even try to play them?  :mellow:

3) And I don't recall myself calling druggers "PROs" directly. I do think that druggers are good players because they can use an essential game mechanic, like everyone should. 

4) Druggers don't need drugs for any specific kill, but to control and win the battle (If you haven't noticed). Just because I'm drugging in a battle and there is an M2 in the enemy, it doesn't mean I need drugs to kill that specific person. I need drugs to help me with the battle. 

5) Pressing numbers definetly requires more skills than whining about it on forum ;)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I think you have forgotten something  called a PRO battle  :rolleyes: And guess what you can do there? :o Turn supplies off! Never would of thought of that  B)

You are talking to teh wrong person for that. Read my posts and you will see I support the Pro Pass idea at least willing to try it.

 

No.

 

I am trying to understand claims made here.  I agree that supplies are part of the game and players have to get used to using them.

 

Payers who  spend money buying the 1500 size kit for $20 definitely have an advantage over player who do not spend money. It is folly to deny that.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Currently 15 Pro battles on EN2, Would you like me to list all the pro battles on each server for you whilst you find another excuse why you cant play them?

List all the non-supplies use ones. That is the point. Not just the raw number of Pro battles.

 

Let's take a time-out here. The full battle creation system is not in place. We cannot judge the concept until we have the ability to do the searching function across servers. And even when this happens players will not adapt to the new potentials for some time.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

It's more difficult to join a losing team and handle many non-druggers who are shooting you at the same time than fighting against one noob drugger.

I never said anything about the team situation, and honestly, depending on your definition of "many", 1 noob drugger can be equal in difficulty to take out than 3 or 4 non-druggers. Plus, he/she will probably destroy you first, so that impedes your changes drastically/ ;)

I wonder what's more annoying: people who consider as serious arguments based on assumptions or those who attribute statements you never said because they read hastily?

Standard and PRO battles require both skills but different skills.

 

I never said you thought drugs-off battles required no skill. I said, correctly, that you thought that the addition of drugs to gameplay brings a new element of skill into it.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Absolutely not, you said I was right to claim that standard battles require more skills than PRO ones... No. I didn't say that. Standard battles require the least skill. I was talking about all-drug battles, with SCD off.

 

 ...when I simply quoted posts which argued that supplies require skill to be used efficiently. Well, you wouldn't quote posts you disagree with, right?

Can't read neither "PRO battle" nor "no-drug battle" nor "more skill than" anywhere in these quotes, can you? :rolleyes: A new element of skill is what I said.

 

I know you don't have much time to read correctly because you have to reply to every post on the forum but don't dare to expect anyone to take you seriously.  Then you shouldn't "waste your time" replying.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I'm not crazy... You don't make sense!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 Let me explain so you have no excuse not to understand:

 

Standard battles: Require the most skill if you are a non-drugger. Require the least skill if you are a big drugger against non-drugger.

 

PRO, drugs-off battles.More skill required than standard battles from druggers' perspective, because everyone is on equal footing.

 

SCD-off battles: Requires more skill than drugs-off battles, because everyone is on equal footing and the most experienced drugger, along with the most skills, will win.

 

Standard battles where EVERYONE is a large drugger: Requires more skill than SCD-off battles, because you have to understand SCD and maximize your effectiveness within a certain drugging pattern.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I already did, it was 15  :rolleyes:

 

What excuse would you like to us now?

 

You conveniently leave out the part where non-Pro-Pass players can't create their own battles anymore.

Many of those who like supplies have bought a Pro Pass.

Now AT LEAST 50% of Pro Pass battles have supplies enabled.

 

So cut any number you refer to in half.

[Lankero 595]

You conveniently leave out the part where non-Pro-Pass players can't create their own battles anymore.

Many of those who like supplies have bought a Pro Pass.

Now AT LEAST 50% of Pro Pass battles have supplies enabled.

 

So cut any number you refer to in half.

looooooooooooooool

 

Not like everyone would have propass anyway :lol: Oh wait I forgot only druggers and buyers can afford pro pass right? :( "Now AT LEAST 50% of Pro Pass battles have supplies enabled." 50% is way too small!!! 69696969% of the battles will have drugs on now

Edited December 21, 2016 by Lankero

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I already did, it was 15  :rolleyes:

 

What excuse would you like to us now?

 

 

 

 

 

No excuse, I call bull**** - or - simple cherry picking. I have a PRo pass, and the total nuymber of no-dyrug games I see at a given moment is 1 or zero. I have never seen 15 no drug battles on one server ever even during the free pass week. Perhpas you fone ne extreme case and now you are flogging it as though that were the norm.

 

It isn't.

Edited December 21, 2016 by LittleWillie

[wolverine848 13,097]

looooooooooooooool

 

Not like everyone would have propass anyway :lol: Oh wait I forgot only druggers and buyers can afford pro pass right? :( "Now AT LEAST 50% of Pro Pass battles have supplies enabled." 50% is way too small!!! 69696969% of the battles will have drugs on now

Now you are just deflecting.

 

The numbers don't lie.

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

No excuse, I call bull**** - or - simple cherry picking. I have a PRo pass, and the total nuymber of no-dyrug games I see at a given moment is 1 or zero. I have never seen 15 no drug battles on one server ever even during the free pass week. Perhpas you fone ne extreme case and now you are flogging it as though that were the norm.

 

It isn't.

Exactly. I don't know what stats or time they are on but for Captain there are 1? 2? Pro battles with supplies off (and a time limit) at any given time. And I'm lucky if they're not in Polygon. Usually the 3-4 supplies-off battles have a point limit.

Edited December 21, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Lankero 595]

Now you are just deflecting.

 

The numbers don't lie.

 

But don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

I would appreciate if you would share those numbers with me  :rolleyes: And make sure they're actually true, and not made up. :) 

[wolverine848 13,097]

I would appreciate if you would share those numbers with me  :rolleyes: And make sure they're actually true, and not made up. :)

And do your leg-work?  nah.

 

I did not post the "15 battles in Pro-Pass". Someone else did. I'm saying that is misleading because it was missing important details.

 

Feel free to look at the details next time you log in to play.  And you could be right - I may be way off. It might be 70% supplies enabled. That would be ironic!

[wolverine848 13,097]

15 battles had no supplies enabled, What are you finding so hard to understand about this?

 

Its those blinkers again isnt it

Can't see your screen-shot from........ April 1st?  Shame.

 

How many actually playable (rank, not parkour, have a time limit)?

 

When I log in during evening to play there might 15-20 Pro-Pass Battles. 50% or more have supplies enabled. Take away parkour and format battles and there is very little to play on.

[Lankero 595]

Just because something doesn't have  a timelimit it doesn't mean it is gonna last for 69 hours. GOSH. People here haven't realised that but think they know a lot about this game :lol: 

[wolverine848 13,097]

A good grammar and punctuation would be greatly appreciated also. Would make it easier to understand what you are saying. 

You have trouble understanding what I posted?  Wow.  That explains a lot.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Just because something doesn't have  a timelimit it doesn't mean it is gonna last for 69 hours. GOSH. People here haven't realised that but think they know a lot about this game :lol:

And guess what? We have something called a life and we like to know how much time we're commiting to Tanki so we can fit it in with our schedule.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Can't be bothered to read because anyway I know you'll misread my reply again.

I may misread but it's definitely better than not-reading. And you think YOU are the one with serious arguments. Wow.

[Lankero 595]

Sure I'll check all the servers tomorrow and now to see how many drugs off battles I'll find. How many will be enough to make you all stop saying there is no battles to choose from?

[Lankero 595]

I stopped counting at 150  :rolleyes: So there is about 200 PRO battles without drugs on the servers combined. Thats not good enough? You can always create your own battles too :) 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Same goes for your buddies who misread everyone or assume facts all the time :rolleyes:

He was talking about grammar.  It was in English. Not sure why he had issues.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think one should start a sentence with "A" in the following context "A good grammar and punctuation would be greatly appreciated also."

 

"Good grammar and ..." might be okay.  "Proper grammar and..." is better.  

 

The "also" is extraneous since that sentence was the first one in the posting.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I stopped counting at 150  :rolleyes: So there is about 200 PRO battles without drugs on the servers combined. Thats not good enough? You can always create your own battles too :)

You mean now?

"Servers combined"?

 

I can't dispute that.

 

Too bad I can't play during the daytime. I wonder how many Pro Battles suitable to my rank there will be this evening when the Russians are still asleep.  -_-

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Do you want me to quote every gramar mistakes/typos of Gabe2607? You know I can bother to do it

Correction: Do you want me to quote all the grammar mistakes/typos of Gabe2607? You know I would bother to do it. (forgot period.)

 

Or 

 

Do you want me to quote every grammar mistake/typo of Gabe2607?  You know I can be bothered to do it. (forgot period, spelling counts too!)

 

 

Please, don't start this.

Edited December 21, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[wolverine848 13,097]

Do you want me to quote every gramar mistakes/typos of Gabe2607? You know I can bother to do it

Hey - I was just pointing out the irony in the post directed at me.

 

But if you want spend the time on a useless endevour endeavor, go ahead.

Edited December 21, 2016 by wolverine848

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

Keep posting gifs all you want.  Doesn't change what I see available when playing.