New physics update, No refund. Is this fair?

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

So? It doesn't change the fact that he is a Gen.

This thread is a full on bandwagon because of the presence of a poll; Shiny link; I don't even have half the things in the garage lol also never bought crystals.

Edited September 18, 2013 by r_AdvocatusDiaboli0

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

This thread is a full on bandwagon because of the presence of a poll; Shiny link; I don't even have half the things in the garage lol also never bought crystals.

Well ok... But  I guess that everyone's garage isn't the same. Some may have a lot of good hulls, like my best friend xTremeAluminium, but on the other hand, I am first lt yet I don't have a M2 gun or hull yet. Now, all the hulls and guns I got are ruined by physics. So my crystals are wasted, like wasp M1, twins M1 etc. but my friend can enjoy, since he got good stuff and all... So he is happy, but sadly can't help me yet he is my best friend, but I am totally ruined...

[Dr.Urbi 657]

No. nuff said.

[X-x-A-x-X 144]

Refund is bad 

[dolahbk 27]

i dont like the new system , i prefer this one

[Royalworld 1,269]

we need a refund 

[GoldRock 6,165]

How come it is difficult all of a sudden? 

And you can say: let's not bother, because they won't give a refund anyway, but still we like to express our dissatisfaction about it.

And it is not just two turrets they are changing, they are also changing the tanks. For example: Mammoth on nitro will only go about 1.5 faster, while Wasp will go 4 faster. I could almost say it's not even worth using nitro when driving a Mammoth anymore because it is such a small difference. 

I already found my Mammoth to be a bit too slow, but some nitro could fix that in drug battles. With those new physics it will become worthless to me, a waste of my crystals.

LOL, I never said I agreed with the translation I'd made - I agree with you completely ^_^

[r_HichigoShiro0 37]

Mammoth on nitro will only got 1.5x faster?

 

 

Are you serious?  :mellow:

[Afro_Samurai 240]

Mammoth on nitro will only got 1.5x faster?

 

 

Are you serious?  :mellow:

Many people, including me, think that Mammoth will suck when the new physics are added.  It is barely faster, while all of the other hulls are extremely faster.

[HichigoShiro1 97]

Many people, including me, think that Mammoth will suck when the new physics are added.  It is barely faster, while all of the other hulls are extremely faster.

Thankfully i quit before this. Woo.

[I.D0M 601]

Mammoth on nitro will only got 1.5x faster?

 

 

Are you serious? :mellow:

1.3x faster actually

[GoldRock 6,165]

Well, I guess it's because Mammoth has so much health...

[CooperO 7,956]

Mammoth on nitro will only got 1.5x faster?

 

 

Are you serious?  :mellow:

No, it will increase with 30%. I said Mammoth would go 1.5 faster, which means with nitro it goes 6.7.

[HeroPlayer 797]

Well, I guess it's because Mammoth has so much health...

Mammoth M3 is very over powered at the moment with its current hp and speed.

[Endurance 543]

Wasp M0, yes, M0 is faster than M2 Hornet... in new physics stats. There seriously needs to be a refund.

OMG why? I haven't tried out the physical feature. Please don't do this devs! :O

[Endurance 543]

M0 Wasp faster than Hornet M2. I don't think that's balanced. -.-

[h2064 5]

hulls were dramatically changed if theres no refund im just gonna quit because these changes are out of control

[Afro_Samurai 240]

Many people, including me, think that Mammoth will suck when the new physics are added.  It is barely faster, while all of the other hulls are extremely faster.

Seriously, Mammoth will be nothing but a Hornet+Isida magnet.  I feel bad for my friend with Mammoth M2.  If there were a refund, he would have no problem.  He could just buy the new hull that is suitable for the battles he plays.

[TheLonelyEpic 212]

I definitely think their should be a refund, as I said on the topic; it just isn't fair to advertise one thing, but change it on us without permission or an option to get something else instead.

Edited September 19, 2013 by TheLonelyEpic

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Mammoths turn speed is so horrible with the new physics... I expect a huge rise in dictator/titans...

 

Yeah, we need a refund. With the amount of people who use mammoth nowadays... they going to feel like they wasted crystals.

[Afro_Samurai 240]

Viking.  It was a hull that was good.  It proved itself worthy, as it could keep up with Dictator and Hunter.  It was low, stable, and was harder to hit than Dictator.  It also had very good HP and speed at M2.  I was planning on getting M2 when I would be the right rank to do so, but now, I'm glad I didn't get to the right rank yet.  Viking, is now behind the other medium hulls.  Dictator and Hunter are way faster.  Am I saying Viking sucks now?  No.  The point I am trying to make is, that people are going to want Dictator or Hunter for their speed.  Remember, before this update, Viking was around the same speed as Dictator and Hunter.  Now it will be a lot slower.  What if someone had Viking M2, which did keep up with the other M2 medium hulls, and in my opinion, was probably the best M2 medium hull?  It will not be so good after the new physics are added.  They deserve a refund, so they can get a faster hull.  Viking, will NOT be the hull that it was before, the speed isn't anywhere close to Dictator and Hunter.

[Afro_Samurai 240]

^^By the way, Viking is NOT cheap either.  At M2, it is quite expensive.  For some players, Viking M2 could just be a waste of 99 900 crystals.....  And don't even get me started with Viking M3.  -_- 
But if there were a refund, then I wouldn't be complaining, it would be all fair then.

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

Not M2 viking, but M1. So, I missed a sale which was next day for viking 25%, tanki birthday sale week. Now what? All the stuff I got, right now sucks for my rank or is going to be nerfed. Twins M1: I wanted tundra, I bought this, I love it, now what? They are nerfing it. Viking M1, I bought it for the same reason others did, it was able to keep up with other hulls while having a few more advantages like low, stable etc. Railgun M1: I mostly use this with wasp, but great, if I use this, I would just flip everytime I would shoot. Wasp M1: Same reason as above. Mammoth M1: I bought it for how fast it could go when on nitro, now what? It won't go that faster...

[semyonkirov 29,038]

Dear players, we understand your concerns. However, there won't be a refund. There are several reasons for that. I will quote the message that I posted in the main topic about new physics.

 

"The reason we got the refund back in the day wasn't due to changes in parameters of turrets and hulls. It happened because the whole system of weapons was changes. Things you were able to get at your rank became impossible to buy after the update. Tier 1 and Tier 2 got removed and all the guns and hulls were made equal.

This time it's just parameters of SOME turrets and hulls, it's even more about how hulls feel.

 

Secondly and most importantly it's about technical limitations, now it's impossible to give all the crystals back to all the players as easily as it was done the last time.

 

SO there won't be a refund.

 

Also don't forget that it's still a test and some thing will most likely be adjusted.

 

Don't forget that people tend to be afraid of new things, then they get used to it. This case is not an exclusion. Just try it out, wait till it is released, you gonna love it."

 

Physics have been postponed due to the fact that we detected a bug that needs to be fixed. During this time it will also be adjusted. But there won't be a refund this time or any time in future, this method will no longer be used in Tanki Online.