Creating the optimal team with a partner (Advice please!)

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

My friend and I play together as Sergeant-Major's. He uses M1 Hornet + M1 Isida quite effectively. I want to make the best possible team together with him. We play mostly small-medium maps, but sometimes enjoy medium-large sized maps as well. We usually play CTF matches since he shines best there as an Isida user.

 

I can master any hull/turret, I have plenty of experience with all m1's and a few m2's as I own them on this account. I would appreciate experienced players opinions on creating the optimal team (theoretically) for us to dominate together. (We already come first place in 90% of the matches we join, with the exception of when we face WO3's -> Lieutenants or higher ranks, not only do they have M1/M2's but they drug more often) Currently, I've been using M1 Mammoth + M1 Smoky. It seems better that I use a hull with high HP since I always have an Isida friend by my side, yes? And with Mammoth, it allows me to get way more opportunities for Critical hits from my Smoky, since it takes forever to kill me in a mammoth, + Im being healed sometimes, so I can shoot away at enemies as long as I want, just waiting for that critical hit. I also can kill enemy mammoths/titans with ease - even higher ranked ones, cause my mammoth hull can tank their m1-m2 weapons for a bit longer, usually allowing me to get in a crit + a few shots and they are dead :)

 

What improvements would you guys think that either my friend, or myself could make, to enhance our teamwork? Should I be using a different weapon or hull? Should he use Hunter rather than Hornet?

 

Although I am concerned about what will happen when the new physics system is implemented. Do you pros think that Mammy/Smoky will still be a good combination later? And also, for my friend, should he continue using Hornet/Isida to work best with me?

 

 

Please give a detailed and well-thought out reply, using reasoning to backup your opinions.

Edited September 17, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[Dreams_Never_Die 71]

Thunder m1 is better,multiple kills...

it suits well with mamoth ; )

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Thunder m1 is better,multiple kills...

it suits well with mamoth ; )

Thunder M1 isnt unlocked for a long time, neither is Cedar paint (Thunder protection for self-damage). I'm a mammoth, I cannot run away from people who want to ram my sides and cause me to hit myself. Also, I like to be an attacker, I use double armor's every so often, paired with mammoth, to cap flags while my friend heals me. Smoky's critical hits allow me to cap flags much more effectively, and save my friend during emergency situations as well due to critical hits killing enemies as soon as they spawn at their base. Please give a more well thought out reply next time, but thanks anyways~

 

Also, for you future repliers, the extra bit of HP on Mammoth seems to be pretty useful, since my friend is an Isida, if he dies, my little bit of HP leftover could provide him enough time to return and heal me back to full hp in an emergency situation. If you all agree that Mammy+Smoky is the best for me, I plan to increase Mammoths HP with microupgrades to 275 (75% of m2) But thinking about it further, considering the fact that we will never reach the Major+ ranks anyways, would it be better to get M1 titan and Microupgrade it? Since 292hp vs 300hp, but the titan has a bit more speed, so when I microupgrade its HP, it will be 272ish rather than 275, and have alot more speed...

 

Yeah that seems like a better idea. So M1 titan M1 smoky, both MU'd - titan for HP and smoky for crit % / crit damage.

 

Thoughts?

Edited September 17, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[Irontank1v 836]

Both of you should use wasp or hornet, as you guys play team matches. One of you should use railgun while the other can use thunder OR  instead of thunder you guys can use freeze. Freeze and rail make very good team.

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Both of you should use wasp or hornet, as you guys play team matches. One of you should use railgun while the other can use thunder OR  instead of thunder you guys can use freeze. Freeze and rail make very good team.

My friend prefers short range weapons, specifically Isida. And he likes fast hulls, specifically hornet. He's going to stick with his combo, as he's not a crystal buyer, so he is focusing on one single combo. My build is more adjustable. With him using Isida, as I mentioned in the preface, how can I best work in conjunction with his setup?

[Irontank1v 836]

What improvements would you guys think that either my friend, or myself could make, to enhance our teamwork? Should I be using a different weapon or hull?

 

And also, for my friend, should he continue using Hornet/Isida to work best with me?

 

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

You can't take my words out of context lol. He's going to be using Isida. Half of my post revolved around that fact, and your reply mentioned rail/freeze/thunder and wasp/hornet, not what I asked about lol. You could've said that a good match for working with a Hornet + Isida in medium sized CTF matches would be ______.

Edited September 17, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[r_wienerschnitzel0 25]

You cap flags? What maps do you play in to be able to do that with Mammoth?

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

'Small-Medium' while using double armor occasionally, while having an Isida behind me, In maps 4v4 or 5v5, no more than that.

[r_wienerschnitzel0 25]

Hmm... then you won't be able to use the range of Smoky to your advantage. Suggest Twins, as that is a more risky route that would get you shot at often and thus benefit more from Isida.

Ricochet at M2 would work too, especially in preparation for new physics. Note that you need experience and skill though, so not as recommended as above.

I would choose Titan over Mammoth.

Edited September 17, 2013 by r_wienerschnitzel0

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Thank you wienerschnitzel, last post much appreciated. I think I will infact get Titan, and will consider Rico. I do believe Smoky's range is taken advantage of btw. In distances further than Combe, lengthwise, it actually begins to lose damage. I've done a few tests and the results of the damage drop off from range was shocking.

 

Any more valuable opinions out there waiting to be heard?

Edited September 17, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

I think your friend should stick with Hornet.

Stick with the set that you like and can use. Honestly I think after the new physics kicks in, Titan/Ricochet will be better than Smoky/Mammoth. But that's just my opinion.

Don't just get something 'cause people say it's strong. I got Twins because of that, and I never use it. Waste of crystals.

[Irontank1v 836]

You can't take my words out of context lol. He's going to be using Isida. Half of my post revolved around that fact, and your reply mentioned rail/freeze/thunder and wasp/hornet, not what I asked about lol. You could've said that a good match for working with a Hornet + Isida in medium sized CTF matches would be ______.

Sorry if i misunderstood you, you should either go with rail or twins along with hornet. ;)

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Working in dual teams is fine. Keep building on teamwork strategies. You seem to be doing it well if you can capture a flag with Mammoth. . .. .

 

However, you should not rely on it too much. Do not forget how to battle like a lone-wolf. :D  For your partner might not be at your side 100% of the time.

 

And when you take those lone-wolf skills and combine them with your partner's, good things can result. :ph34r:

[Dreams_Never_Die 71]

Thunder M1 isnt unlocked for a long time, neither is Cedar paint (Thunder protection for self-damage). I'm a mammoth, I cannot run away from people who want to ram my sides and cause me to hit myself. Also, I like to be an attacker, I use double armor's every so often, paired with mammoth, to cap flags while my friend heals me. Smoky's critical hits allow me to cap flags much more effectively, and save my friend during emergency situations as well due to critical hits killing enemies as soon as they spawn at their base. Please give a more well thought out reply next time, but thanks anyways~

 

Also, for you future repliers, the extra bit of HP on Mammoth seems to be pretty useful, since my friend is an Isida, if he dies, my little bit of HP leftover could provide him enough time to return and heal me back to full hp in an emergency situation. If you all agree that Mammy+Smoky is the best for me, I plan to increase Mammoths HP with microupgrades to 275 (75% of m2) But thinking about it further, considering the fact that we will never reach the Major+ ranks anyways, would it be better to get M1 titan and Microupgrade it? Since 292hp vs 300hp, but the titan has a bit more speed, so when I microupgrade its HP, it will be 272ish rather than 275, and have alot more speed...

 

Yeah that seems like a better idea. So M1 titan M1 smoky, both MU'd - titan for HP and smoky for crit % / crit damage.

 

Thoughts?

Genius...

thunder m1 is a excelent weapon and is unlocked at wo4 the m1,and at captain m2(one rank more for you and you can already buy the m2 thunder...

Thunder has more advantages than disadvantages noob,you can do multiple kills easily and suport your team...

Dont relly only on that stupid critical!!!!

Thunder m1 is the best weapon for warant ranks and lietanant ranks!!!

(if you know how too use)

and stop hating thunder guys!!!

is a excelent weapon!!!

i bet that every person from here got killed by a good thunder or was in a chain kill by a thunder shoot!!

once,with a good thunder hit i got 5 players with one hit(in same time i killed all)

were hornets and they were very close too each other

so i made a multiple kill axaxax

Stop hating thunder!!!!

You hate it because of his superiority axaxax!!!!

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

sorry,missed that part,damn....

smoky is very good for that rank then :lol:

my mistake <_<

sorry

 

No worries. Anyone else have any comments?