IIT: Why there shouldn't be a refund.

[Remaine 4,687]

In fact I think it's only fair if they take away some money from us.

 

They are just finalizing the re-balance, meaning that some hulls and turrets were not balanced yet.

 

So those who were playing on weak weapons should pay a bit more if their weapons are strengthened, and those who played on OP weapons would pay a bit for having OP-ed for so long.

 

And now they stoop so low as to complain about not getting crystals for the Devs' hard work.

no just no

This argument is horrific.

 

The only reason why you're not against this is purely because you find the hulls you primarily use with the new physics to be good. Otherwise, you'd want a refund as well

Edited September 19, 2013 by Remaine

[r_The-Player20 313]

No, it's not fair, because they are changing the hulls. A hull that was good now might be crappy. You can't even control some tanks well in the test server, like Wasp. Mines flip even Hornet, the basic gameplay of the hulls is being changed, why shouldn't there be a refund for only hulls? 

Edited September 18, 2013 by r_The-Player20

[r_The-Player20 313]

We're not all arabs with oil fields in our backyards 

very true

[canadarules 1,938]

All right, so we all know the reason people ask for refunds is because they think they're not getting what they want. So instead of jumping on the refund bandwagon; I'll be true to my name here.

 

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We all know Tanki is a game, weapons need to be balanced, changed and everything. You shouldn't get a refund if you "balance" an over powered weapon and nor should you get a refund if you balance an under powered weapon.

 

• Twins isn't nerfed because then people will ask for refund.
• Ricochet isn't buffed because then people will ask for refund.
• Smoky isn't nerfed because then people will ask for refund.
• Basically speaking, no stats are changed because Tanki cares too much about its userbase.

• People are asking for a refund because of a "Physics" update and speed changes on Tanks!

Tanki is being too "nice" with the community on this refund business. There are games like World of Tanks and League of Legends which have updates every couple of weeks, they never have refunds.

 

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So instead of just crying for a refund, can you tell me why you think Tanki is obliged to give you people a refund? What have you done to deserve it? Bought crystals? Big deal; you bought crystals in a free to play game and no one asked you to; you basically "donated" money to the developers and got a "compensation" in return, you didn't "buy" anything.

 

P.S. Downvote me without an argument; I dare you.

Hey finally someone who knows something. Rebalance is dumb and messes up everything anyways.

also i don't vote people up or down......why do it is pointless right

[joostcool 5,942]

So, I got my Mammoth M3. It's bad in NSgames which I most of the time play. But it is fun to play a drugwar sometimes, and if a friend needs help I always pick my mammy and my drugs, and try to help my friend. Now I have driven the 'updated' Mammoth. And if that tank appears in my garage I will definitely regret that it is in my garage. It is not my tank, and I will never get used to it. This means I have a bunch of rust in my garage with the worth of 350 000 crystals (i don't know how much mammoth costs, but it is alot of crystals). I'd love to spend those crystals to a better garage item. So a refund would be nice for it to dump the worse parts of the garage (because yes, I bought Mammoth for what it is now, not for what it will be).

 

Joosty

[h2064 5]

We NEED a refund -_- if the new physics are gonna be that big of a change a reblanace is needed wasp m0 is now as fast as m3!

[HeroPlayer 797]

We're not all arabs with oil fields in our backyards

I am dutch, and I am not rich. I work a lot.

[Endurance 543]

I have not yet tried out the new Physical changes, however I have seen more negative comments than positive ones. I really do want a refund because it will allow me to recreate a new combo that I am comfortable with, as the Physical changes have changed the stats of hulls.

[kantank 0]

All right, so we all know the reason people ask for refunds is because they think they're not getting what they want. So instead of jumping on the refund bandwagon; I'll be true to my name here.

 

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We all know Tanki is a game, weapons need to be balanced, changed and everything. You shouldn't get a refund if you "balance" an over powered weapon and nor should you get a refund if you balance an under powered weapon.

 

• Twins isn't nerfed because then people will ask for refund.
• Ricochet isn't buffed because then people will ask for refund.
• Smoky isn't nerfed because then people will ask for refund.
• Basically speaking, no stats are changed because Tanki cares too much about its userbase.

• People are asking for a refund because of a "Physics" update and speed changes on Tanks!

Tanki is being too "nice" with the community on this refund business. There are games like World of Tanks and League of Legends which have updates every couple of weeks, they never have refunds.

 

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So instead of just crying for a refund, can you tell me why you think Tanki is obliged to give you people a refund? What have you done to deserve it? Bought crystals? Big deal; you bought crystals in a free to play game and no one asked you to; you basically "donated" money to the developers and got a "compensation" in return, you didn't "buy" anything.

 

P.S. Downvote me without an argument; I dare you.

 

The better question to ask is :

 

If you are a buying/donating customer and you discover that every 2 weeks whatever you thought you bought/donated is not going to be what you thought it is. Will you continue to donate?

 

If you do not donate/buy. Who cares what your opinions are. Enjoy the freebies while it last and move on. Plenty of free internet games out there.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

 

 

If you do not donate/buy. Who cares what your opinions are. Enjoy the freebies while it last and move on. Plenty of free internet games out there.

I pity the fool who believes this. Have you ever seen those Buy-Or-Die games? Pointless games only for people with no-lives. No game is complete in my opinion without both Non-buyers and buyers. Adds MUCH more diversity in the game. No free-players = The game sucks. A game where free-players always lose. The game sucks. <_<

 

Non-buyers have the right just as anyone else to share their opinions. I think Tanki Online's greatest aspect is not about the 3D-Graphics and all, but the community, no?

Edited September 19, 2013 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[GoldRock 6,165]

Well "ruining" the game with new physics is your opinion. I think the diversified physics only enhances the game.

Considering the new physics update:

M0 Wasp > M2 Hornet (in speed)

M0 Wasp > M3 of all (if not, quite a few) other hulls (in speed)

Dictator > Mammoth

Dictator > Viking

Hunter > Viking

Viking = useless

Wasp = so fast it's hard to hit

Good hulls: Dictator, Hunter, Hornet, Wasp

Bad hulls: Viking, Mammoth, Titan (IDK about this one, but I'm assuming it's speed with and without nitro is also pretty bad)

 

It's hilarious how most are still using Mammoth in the test server. All I have to do is use Wasp in a Sandbox CTF, nab the flag, and laugh whilst they trundle after me, missing their shots. Assuming it even manages to hit me, a Thunder can only usually hit me two or three times from the distance from their flag to the side ramp, after which I am relatively safe, and it takes four Thunder M3 shots to kill a Wasp M3. You don't even have to let a shot off yourself :lol: People argue that 'they can be flipped easily by a Rail shot now', but I personally find that the hull is so light that it just rolls back onto its front for a large proportion of the instances, if you manouever it well. To me, Wasp is the new OP hull of the game.

 

Basically, this update kind of messes up the balancing theme of the rebalance.

Edited September 19, 2013 by GoldRock

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

 

It's hilarious how most are still using Mammoth in the test server.

 

Basically, this update kind of messes up the balancing theme of the rebalance.

1. I think they were like me, who wanted to see how bad Mammoth was effected by the horrible, unbalancing, crap update.

 

2. Agreed.

[Ilia.ArchangeI 6,785]

M0 Wasp > M2 Hornet (in speed)

M0 Wasp > M3 of all (if not, quite a few) other hulls (in speed)

Wasp = so fast it's hard to hit

I still think balance is maintained here. Why do you think 80% of high ranks use Mammoth? Because its OP and there's nothing to compete with it. Considering that, the light hulls will actual be worth your time, and we will start seeing other hulls than mammoths in Gns games.

 

Wasp isn't all that fast - it's only the handling that makes it seem faster.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSRrlNLl4lk

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

^I want you to drive straight like that in main server after new physics come, where you are shooting and getting shot. I doubt you will make it to the other end without trying more than 10 times, unless all our just on the other side.

[Lhamster 4,081]

Why do you think 80% of high ranks use Mammoth? Because its OP and there's nothing to compete with it. Considering that, the light hulls will actual be worth your time, and we will start seeing other hulls than mammoths in Gns games.

They use it because in a drug war health is everything. There is no way people will start using other hulls in them, less health = you lose.

[CooperO 7,956]

I still think balance is maintained here. Why do you think 80% of high ranks use Mammoth? Because its OP and there's nothing to compete with it. Considering that, the light hulls will actual be worth your time, and we will start seeing other hulls than mammoths in Gns games.

I'm guessing you didn't look close enough or maybe just in the wrong battles. Mammoth might be OP in drug battles in maps like Farm and Silence, but definitely not in most ns battles. Use a Mammoth in a Kungur ns and you will be pretty much useless, Wasps and Hornets dominate there. And believe it or not, even in Island ns Wasp, Hornet and Hunter are most used. Also there are many maps where even Mammoth on drugs can't beat the faster hulls, simply because it lacks speed.

I'd say let Mammoth be OP in some maps, Wasps are OP in others. Then there are the clan and team wars with formats, where Mammoth isn't allowed, which means many Generalissimos and other high ranks will be playing with lighter hulls most of the time anyway.

Edited September 19, 2013 by CooperO

[semyonkirov 29,038]

Dear players, we understand your concerns. However, there won't be a refund and there is no point in discussing it. There are several reasons for that. I will quote the message that I posted in the main topic about new physics.

 

"The reason we got the refund back in the day wasn't due to changes in parameters of turrets and hulls. It happened because the whole system of weapons was changes. Things you were able to get at your rank became impossible to buy after the update. Tier 1 and Tier 2 got removed and all the guns and hulls were made equal.

This time it's just parameters of SOME turrets and hulls, it's even more about how hulls feel.

 

Secondly and most importantly it's about technical limitations, now it's impossible to give all the crystals back to all the players as easily as it was done the last time.

 

SO there won't be a refund.

 

Also don't forget that it's still a test and some thing will most likely be adjusted.

 

Don't forget that people tend to be afraid of new things, then they get used to it. This case is not an exclusion. Just try it out, wait till it is released, you gonna love it."

 

Anyway, physics have been postponed due to the fact that we detected a bug that needs to be fixed. During this time it will also be adjusted, but there won't be a refund.