Update 186 — Product kits for all ranks!

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

I hope Devs release a topic explaining all of this nonsense. Because still nobody can give me a list of how this benefits us.

 

E.g:

 

1. Reason

 

2. Reason

 

3. Reason

 

4. Reason.

 

5. Etc.

 

Which leads me to believe that this update does not help us at all!  None! Nein! Zero!

[meronnatu 151]

bro..1 money 2 money 3 m...... 

they said that they want some financial change :/

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

bro..1 money 2 money 3 m...... 

they said that they want some financial change :/

Who said that. So this is staying? No changes??

[Aerakin 37]

Now look at what you've done this time, Tanki. One more reason to never battle with players who have higher rank.

 

The nail in the coffin for this update was giving players with deep wallets the ability to buy weapons before anyone else could...this system is corrupted. Now buyers and druggers run rampant more than ever before. Any balance is pretty much dead at this point. All in the name of finance I suppose, but it would have been even more financially wise to please the much larger non-buyer playerbase, rather than cater to the small percentage of rich players(who will pretty much be the only ones remaining after a few years[but I don't suppose that's a problem for you]). For example, making it so you can only buy packages if you meet the rank requirement of the items included in the package.

 

But now, you've only fed the players who are driving everyone else away. It's a wonder many people continue to consider this completely imbalanced atrocity "fun." This reminds me of when Marshals could fight with Corporals, that is pretty much how dangerous this update is to gameplay.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Aerakin

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

:mellow: Okay, the Devs have lost their mind. And they have not even officially replied yet in the Forum public. :mellow:

 

Edited September 29, 2013 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Aerakin 37]

 

 everyone needs to understand is that updates like this help the project in terms of finances. It leads to more resources that then spent on developing new features for players. 

 

Basically, he is patting non-buyers on the head saying "don't worry, we didn't forget about you either" and then creating new features that are either not useful(oh look! fog! particles!), create great controversy and loss of playerbase(rebalance, for example), or cost a ridiculous sum of money anyways(10x update, micro-upgrades, rebalance, et al).

 

Not saying I'm not grateful that we are even acknowledged at all..I know plenty of games who completely ignore the non-buyer players as simple publicity assets and cater solely to buyers.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Aerakin

[black1848 6]

Omg guys look this i saw the gold box story on the wiki http://en.tankiwiki.com/Gold_Box and look on the goldbox that it sais that a long time ago the gold box was 1000 crys (well when normal crys were only 1 and not 10) and it sais that buyers said that tit wasnt fair that it was 1000 crys beacuse that was a lot on that time so they made it go down and it stayed being a goldbox of 100 crys so why do devs listen buyers and not normal hardworking players??

look it's true and i hope devs see this

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Basically, he is patting non-buyers on the head saying "don't worry, we didn't forget about you either" and then creating new features that are either not useful(oh look! fog! particles!), create great controversy and loss of playerbase(rebalance, for example), or cost a ridiculous sum of money anyways(10x update, micro-upgrades, rebalance, et al).

 

Not saying I'm not grateful that we are even acknowledged at all..I know plenty of games who completely ignore the non-buyer players as simple publicity assets and cater solely to buyers.

 

Those games suck.

Omg guys look this i saw the gold box story on the wiki http://en.tankiwiki.com/Gold_Box and look on the goldbox that it sais that a long time ago the gold box was 1000 crys (well when normal crys were only 1 and not 10) and it sais that buyers said that tit wasnt fair that it was 1000 crys beacuse that was a lot on that time so they made it go down and it stayed being a goldbox of 100 crys so why do devs listen buyers and not normal hardworking players??

look it's true and i hope devs see this

They're biased you mean?

[meronnatu 151]

Bassicaly this update should be removed.

[r_HichigoShiro0 37]

Omg guys look this i saw the gold box story on the wiki http://en.tankiwiki.com/Gold_Box and look on the goldbox that it sais that a long time ago the gold box was 1000 crys (well when normal crys were only 1 and not 10) and it sais that buyers said that tit wasnt fair that it was 1000 crys beacuse that was a lot on that time so they made it go down and it stayed being a goldbox of 100 crys so why do devs listen buyers and not normal hardworking players??

look it's true and i hope devs see this

Thats not the reason

 

But, we pay for them

and you don't so, yeah. 

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Thats not the reason

 

But, we pay for them

and you don't so, yeah. 

So you would rather just shoot tanks pointlessly 24/7. . . .ok. .. .

[r_The-Player20 313]

Also can someone do the math for me, if I wanna buy the Heavy Tank M2 kit but already have M2 Mammoth and M2 rico, I just want it for the paints and drugs, is it still worth it?

It'd be like buying at a 25% discount.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Sad how they won't change this. Bad-updated overpower and outnumber good updates.

[RanGo-nl 4]

Very bad update, ruining the fun and the mission in this Tanki game!! :(  :(  :(  :(

I wanted to invite friends an tell them about this great game, but now I might even quit and look for another! :angry:

A game where the developers are driven by passion for the game and not just the money.... :angry:  :(  :(

[r_ELain_3S0 17]

Conspiracy theory ahead, you may go for the tl;dr version if you don't feel like reading.

 

What's funny about this update is that Update 186 is clearly a direct consequence, and counter, of the (once) new rank, price, and fund system brought in by rebalance. Devs plan didn't go as they wanted, and now they are trying to patch things up, of course disrupting the gameplay that was forced in by them. But what's the problem? Money, it is. Devs cut off a great source of money income with the changes on rank, fund and price: impatient noobs. Back in the days I could see lots of WO5 with M3 Thunder Viking + 12k paint (heck, I was one of them too) and by the red stars ranks everyone had at least 1 M3 combination and a decent paint. Milking impatient noobs on free-2-play is browser games' national sport after all. But now those impatient noobs are no more. Rebalance made the casual and non-buyer playerbase way more attentive and sensible about upgrades than it was in the past. Now earning an M2 weapon is serious business, not only for the price (non buyers issue) but also because of the rank limitation (impatient noob issue). "Should I upgrade this or wait and rank up for that?" "Crap, I dont have the rank to get this" and so on. Discounts came in to save the day for most people, and for devs too, but they are a clear example of Tanki struggling to get money. Discount are made to get the casual and non-buyer playerbase, which is the greatest faction in Tanki I guess, to spend more (the first) or to actually spend money (the latter). Also add that no sensible man would buy without Double Crystals Card and you get the reason behind the insane amount, and worth, of discount after rebalance. Before RB every year had at best 3 discount with 25%, if a recall correctly, then soon after RB a 30% came in as the highest % ever, and about a month ago we had a general discount of 50%, with lots of others in the process. If they are not begging for money then I don't know what it is. All the changes that were made for the good of the community were actually kind of risky for the company, and now they are taking back part of them with Kits bypassing rank limitations, for the joy of impatient noobs all over the world. And once again the good old non-buyer will experience first hand a gameplay change for the worst, and will have to deal with it. There might not be so many impatient noobs right now who would pay 300k for an OP combination, just try not to find one in a non-NS battle. Conspiracy theory over.

 

tl;dr Tanki hypocrisy, buy crystal pls, non-buyers be suffering. Nothing new under the sun.

 

Personally speaking I don't think I will see a great change on my weekend Tanki activity. Just more noobs with pro equipment, but at my level M3 weapons and tanks are not enough to win. I can't say the same for lower ranks though. 

Edited September 29, 2013 by r_ELain_3S0

[GeneralPie 603]

JackN1 told me to post this:

 

Does anyone else feel that Update 186 is unbelievable? This is Tanki just trying to make as much money as they possibly can? Yes this is the case as Seymon Kirov has said and i quote

'Everyone needs to understand is that updates like this help the project in terms of finances. It leads to more resources that then spent on developing new features for players.'

This is basically in simple terms saying that they need to make this update so that Tanki can make more money otherwise we cant have these 'awesome' new upgrades such as Micro-Upgrades, 10X Update and Rebalance.

I get that you need to make a profit but maybe if you ask players their opinion they will tell you that 95% hate both the Rebalance, 10x Update and Micro-Upgrades. So all I want to know is Why do you make them if we dont want them? Anyone Agree...

[smashman777 104]

lol pie -_- flp a table ^_^

[smashman777 104]

apparently the game is balance by letting lieutenants purchase emerald  <_<

[smashman777 104]

Omg guys look this i saw the gold box story on the wiki http://en.tankiwiki.com/Gold_Box and look on the goldbox that it sais that a long time ago the gold box was 1000 crys (well when normal crys were only 1 and not 10) and it sais that buyers said that tit wasnt fair that it was 1000 crys beacuse that was a lot on that time so they made it go down and it stayed being a goldbox of 100 crys so why do devs listen buyers and not normal hardworking players??

look it's true and i hope devs see this

so true man so true all they want is money man we cant argue

[doughnut2100 763]

Omg tanki. I get you need more money but this is just messed up. Now the diffrence betwee buyers and non buyers will be huge!! This will make the game so unfair! Youll be seeing one upgrade higher tanks and weapons when no one in the battle is the rank to buy them! One of the worst updated there has been IMO...

Edited September 29, 2013 by doughnut2100

[doughnut2100 763]

Sad how they won't change this. Bad-updated overpower and outnumber good updates.

They better change it when they get their money.

[smashman777 104]

'In this thread you can share your impressions and thoughts regarding the update'

whats the point you wont change it no matter what we say so i dont get it <_<

[TheLonelyEpic 212]

Stupid, just stupid.

[r_elene1234560 42]

First

I think they will ruin gameplay, cuz now there will be like First Lieutenant buyers running around with m2 thunder and m2 viking and emerald, and Second Lieutenants with mammoth m2 and ricochet m2, whom will be much to OP. This will stretch the differance between buyers and normal players even further then it already is! And the drug kits are just too much...

 

Give us a refund as well since your adding all these new updates that affect out tanks!!

 I agree with you :)))

[KURNAWAN 4]

So if now my rank is warrant  officer 1 and my crystal has enough so i can buy :fire_r: