Intelligence and the discussion of it

[aojsd 144]

IMHO people are all born with potential, however the potential that turns into talent or intelligence is based upon their culture and the environment they are raised in. If someone were raised by a family that emphasized the importance of education, they would eventually learn and become able to apply subconscious learning skills that they have because of the way they were raised. At least, this is what I like to think. ^_^

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

Smartness = intelligence, dude, genes are not part of it. As an example, I'll take me, I used to be IDK? dumb? I learned average level, but, I tried, I learned how to learn, I know this sounds stupid but it's not the genes that determine final intelligence, it's you. Now, I'm in the top 1% of the USA.

Edited October 8, 2013 by DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl

[GoldRock 6,165]

Smartness = intelligence, dude, genes are not part of it. As an example, I'll take me, I used to be IDK? dumb? I learned average level, but, I tried, I learned how to learn, I know this sounds stupid but it's not the genes that determine final intelligence, it's you. Now, I'm in the top 99% of the USA.

Even though you didn't intend it, this is the funniest post I've read in a long time. Read the last sentence carefully :lol:

Edited October 8, 2013 by GoldRock

[aojsd 144]

Even though you didn't intend it, this is the funniest post I've read in a long time. Read the last sentence carefully :lol:

I think I'm in the 1st percentile as well. :lol: Edited October 8, 2013 by aojsd

[Imgoingtowreckyou 4]

No one is born intelligent, or talented, or with any other pre-formed skill or intellect. There is no way to gain knowledge without being taught. Aristotle talks about habit and nature in his Nicomachean Ethics (I'm sorry to bring this selection in, but I believe it gives the best argument). By nature, we are born with certain things, i.e. lungs, heart, legs, etc. Those are necessary. Habit, however, is how we form our ideas and philosophy. Habit is formed by being taught something, accepting it, and practicing it.

This is not to say that some are not born with certain  dispositions; but a disposition towards a thing is different than the thing itself. Ask Michael Jordan why he's so good at basketball. He won't tell you he was born with the skill or knowledge of the game. No, it was work. Hard work. Habit. 

In the same way, intelligence cannot be acquired in any other way than by teaching and habit.

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

Even though you didn't intend it, this is the funniest post I've read in a long time. Read the last sentence carefully :lol:

urd meh gurd...

 

English isn't one of my best subjects though

[Raphael2 3,263]

Intelligence? Never heard of that.

[GoldRock 6,165]

urd meh gurd...

 

English isn't one of my best subjects though

Fair enough, it was pretty funny though ^_^

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

LOL, I had a facepalm moment when I reread what I wrote, lol

[FaaiqBilal 221]

Someone just got lucky :p

[FaaiqBilal 221]

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Edited October 10, 2013 by Irontank1v

[Irontank1v 836]

As being a biotechnology student, both genes and environment play important role in shaping who you are. 

 

Example: A guy carrying set of genes, say for TALL height, but he lives in mountainous area. So in order to adapt to his habitat he will not grow very tall as it is easier for a short man to climb mountains then a taller man. 

That is just one simple example there are many complicated ones as well. Hope you guys got the idea.

[AngeIs.And.Demons 1,988]

Voted.

[mrandrewstevens 1]

I agree, you can't change your cognitive capacity throughout life, but you can enhance it to a certain extent. When someone learns something, they gain knowledge, not intelligence (Smartness). Using different cortexes (sections of the brain that perform specific tasks) frequently by performing mentally difficult tasks does create neural (the parts that make up each cortex, human brains have billions) shortcuts which allows your brain to process information and make decisions faster. So, yes, you can increase your intelligence slightly by experience. 

[GoldRock 6,165]

^Agreed. Though is the main factor experience, or the inheritance of intelligence? I'd say inheritance...

Edited October 9, 2013 by GoldRock

[flae999 282]

"Heritability" is defined as the proportion of variance in a trait which is attributable to genotype within a defined population in a specific environment. Heritability takes a value ranging from 0 to 1; a heritability of 1 indicates that all variation in the trait in question is genetic in origin and a heritability of 0 indicates that none of the variation is genetic. The determination of many traits can be considered primarily genetic under similar environmental backgrounds. For example, a 2006 study found that adult height has a heritability estimated at 0.80 when looking only at the height variation within families where the environment should be very similar. Other traits have lower heritabilities, which indicate a relatively larger environmental influence. For example, a twin study on the heritability of depression in men calculated it as 0.29, while it was 0.42 for women in the same study. Contrary to popular belief, two parents of higher IQ will not necessarily produce offspring of equal or higher intelligence. In fact, according to the concept of regression toward the mean, parents of IQ at either extreme are more likely to produce offspring closer to the mean (or average).

 

Now stop fighting >.> English nerds ._. It took me 4 minutes to write that! I hope your happy.

Edited October 9, 2013 by flae999

[mrandrewstevens 1]

I agree. Intelligence is inherited from genes but there is normally a slight change in cognitive capacity. For Example, if both parents' IQ is close to 100, then the child will have an IQ of around 100 as well. If I'm not mistaken, male intelligence genes play a greater effect on intelligence, so therefore, a mother with an IQ of 120 and a father with an IQ of 100 means that the child will have an IQ of around 105. 

 

Hope you understand what I'm saying.

[mrandrewstevens 1]

"Heritability" is defined as the proportion of variance in a trait which is attributable to genotype within a defined population in a specific environment. Heritability takes a value ranging from 0 to 1; a heritability of 1 indicates that all variation in the trait in question is genetic in origin and a heritability of 0 indicates that none of the variation is genetic. The determination of many traits can be considered primarily genetic under similar environmental backgrounds. For example, a 2006 study found that adult height has a heritability estimated at 0.80 when looking only at the height variation within families where the environment should be very similar. Other traits have lower heritabilities, which indicate a relatively larger environmental influence. For example, a twin study on the heritability of depression in men calculated it as 0.29, while it was 0.42 for women in the same study. Contrary to popular belief, two parents of higher IQ will not necessarily produce offspring of equal or higher intelligence. In fact, according to the concept of regression toward the mean, parents of IQ at either extreme are more likely to produce offspring closer to the mean (or average).

 

Now stop fighting >.> English nerds ._. It took me 4 minutes to write that! I hope your happy.

 

Whoa! that's a lot of information there! took me a few times to read that before it sunk in. Pretty much what I'm trying to say.

Edited October 9, 2013 by mrandrewstevens

[GoldRock 6,165]

"Heritability" is defined as the proportion of variance in a trait which is attributable to genotype within a defined population in a specific environment. Heritability takes a value ranging from 0 to 1; a heritability of 1 indicates that all variation in the trait in question is genetic in origin and a heritability of 0 indicates that none of the variation is genetic. The determination of many traits can be considered primarily genetic under similar environmental backgrounds. For example, a 2006 study found that adult height has a heritability estimated at 0.80 when looking only at the height variation within families where the environment should be very similar. Other traits have lower heritabilities, which indicate a relatively larger environmental influence. For example, a twin study on the heritability of depression in men calculated it as 0.29, while it was 0.42 for women in the same study. Contrary to popular belief, two parents of higher IQ will not necessarily produce offspring of equal or higher intelligence. In fact, according to the concept of regression toward the mean, parents of IQ at either extreme are more likely to produce offspring closer to the mean (or average).

 

Now stop fighting >.> English nerds ._. It took me 4 minutes to write that! I hope your happy.

Wow, it took you a whole four minutes to copy-and-paste that from Wikipedia?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Heritability_and_caveats

[flae999 282]

Wow, it took you a whole four minutes to copy-and-paste that from Wikipedia?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Heritability_and_caveats

Na more like 4 seconds :3

BTW my parents have average IQ, but believe it or not I have over average for my age.... When I behave properly atleast. Soo not inherited completely from parents

[DanTheKiller1 2,889]

but believe it or not I have over average for my age

[X-x-A-x-X 144]

Dum topic nun of u knw what intelegence is ..... Ugh

[flae999 282]

Dum topic nun of u knw what intelegence is ..... Ugh

I know. It's a word.

Spelt I-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e

[X-x-A-x-X 144]

Shut im wel educated i knw hw 2 spel hh

 

I get a c in english k? Im smart and i rite gramacally correct so i have high iq of 102

[Remaine 4,687]

"Heritability" is defined as the proportion of variance in a trait which is attributable to genotype within a defined population in a specific environment. Heritability takes a value ranging from 0 to 1; a heritability of 1 indicates that all variation in the trait in question is genetic in origin and a heritability of 0 indicates that none of the variation is genetic. The determination of many traits can be considered primarily genetic under similar environmental backgrounds. For example, a 2006 study found that adult height has a heritability estimated at 0.80 when looking only at the height variation within families where the environment should be very similar. Other traits have lower heritabilities, which indicate a relatively larger environmental influence. For example, a twin study on the heritability of depression in men calculated it as 0.29, while it was 0.42 for women in the same study. Contrary to popular belief, two parents of higher IQ will not necessarily produce offspring of equal or higher intelligence. In fact, according to the concept of regression toward the mean, parents of IQ at either extreme are more likely to produce offspring closer to the mean (or average).

 

Now stop fighting >.> English nerds ._. It took me 4 minutes to write that! I hope your happy.

I love the copypasta.