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Okay let's say the micro upgrades will be dead crap

 

Let's suppose new physics will be filthy useless and disgusting

 

Let's assume that the surprise seymon is promising is is as useless and wasp m0 in a generalimo map.

 

But there's one thing that's getting done and sorted and that's that the twins is getting nerfed due to it's over power characteristics

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if that micro upgrade will have influence on guns tanki should give us refund, i am disappointed about twins and freeze aswell i spent on them about 350000 crystals and it means that I wasted crystals buying this turrents? 1 month i couldnt imagine that twins would become rubbish if i knew that i wouldnt waste 130000 on m2 modification. It will be worth if developers consider of refunding spent crys on changed weapon many players like me will find new strategy refund will give players lots of opportunities and if it will happen many players will carry on playing if not...:(

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if that micro upgrade will have influence on guns tanki should give us refund, i am disappointed about twins and freeze aswell i spent on them about 350000 crystals and it means that I wasted crystals buying this turrents? 1 month i couldnt imagine that twins would become rubbish if i knew that i wouldnt waste 130000 on m2 modification. It will be worth if developers consider of refunding spent crys on changed weapon many players like me will find new strategy refund will give players lots of opportunities and if it will happen many players will carry on playing if not... :(

Hello! :) I do understand what you're saying, and will answer each and every aspect of what you're saying. First, they have actually considered a refund, and have rejected the suggestion. Here's a quote from a developer.

 

I do understand everybody would like a refund but it will never happen from now on.

 

This got nothing to do with US not listening YOU. Problem is — every refund ruining the game. I can put aside technical problems, which are important nevertheless, and bring up economical problems. Refund with rebalance was not an easy decision and we had serious problems afterwards. Remember update 123? You do not think that theese two releases was not connected, do you? Every refund WILL bring another "update 123" because refund ruining the game economy. You asking us to refund at physics update though we not changing entire economy and leveling system, we just fixing gameplay as it should be fixed long time ago. This is balancing, NOT rebalance.

 

Now, I am not asking you if you want refund or not, we are clear here that you do. What I am asking you is do you want another update 123?

 

If you ask me, having something like we've done with funds is far less fair then not giving you another refund.

 

 

Freeze actually won't be rubbish at all, to be honest. The only aspect of it that will be changed and decreased is the amount of time it takes for another tank to de-freeze. It will still have that awesome freezing and will freeze the exact same or very similar. But, if you get frozen by a Freeze, you won't be frozen as long.

 

As for Twins m2, it will actually have 3.2 more shots per minute, but the projectile speed will be slower, however it will indeed be faster than what the current Ricochet is. I'm sorry they cannot do a refund, but they really can't from the quote above that I got from a Tanki Online developer. I wish you good luck with your Twins and Freeze as I sincerely have Freeze m2 myself and don't mind the freezing time being decreased. :)

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^ less freeze time is critical. Maybe your on a ramp getting frozen and while the freeze is going up you can escape. It will still be powerful but the freeze effect that helped slow down druggers carrying your flag will practically dissapear...

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^ less freeze time is critical. Maybe your on a ramp getting frozen and while the freeze is going up you can escape. It will still be powerful but the freeze effect that helped slow down druggers carrying your flag will practically dissapear...

Which I'm totally fine with, that's my opinion on the Freeze. I don't see it as critical, and I agree that it needs to be decreased. It's not balanced that a drugger is stopped by one gun, but not another because of the gun's affect.

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Now i partially appreciate what they have done with shaft, i mean how it takes only three seconds to reach the maximum shot is really good.but how in the world reload time takes EIGHT frigging seconds!!!

are you kidding me??

They just destroyed shaft with that change.

fast zoom or fast reload which do you want ?

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Firstly. I am half a rank away from my turret of choice, twins M3. thanks for wrecking my dream tank. Secondly. Whilst you are messing with tanks please fix Rail gun!!

I am tired of watching the shot miss my tank but still it registers a hit!!. Please make the software more accurate to fix that turret!! Also decrease the rate of critical hits on smoky, make thunder and fire bird  less powerful, do not let isida get health back whilst taking it from opposition, and while you're at it get rid of thunder and ricochets ability to self destruct by shooting at walls!!  If you insist on handicapping twins please keep the rate at M3 and get rid of the stun capacity. This is the only turret i have! and i cannot keep buying more hulls and turrets!! . Otherwise no complaints

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so basically make the game boring is that what your saying ?

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a year ago i did not know i would be playing a cartoon

becoming less like a tank game and more like agames multy player tanks

what a waist of time and energy and effort

i do not want the fastest

i want realistic

no offence but drifting in a 10 tun tank

if you want that get you self a cheap vw golf and mess with that

because with these dynamics we are just heading for more disappointment when enemy tank hits you and you go spinning

off with no control totally and end up on your turret taking you out of the game

just through shooting affecting your direction so much that is compleatly unpredictable ( like a cartoon )

will be calling the game loony tanks online soon

it is getting further from the physics of what would be true dynamics

you could create another server base for true dynamic players

or make both a selection in map players choices.

remember we have tanks not half tracks or 4x4s they are tanks heavy metal Armour

and should have the dynamics of such an object .

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agreed man. railgun also need some changes......for the worse.

Its a kind of balance, they have to do this for shaft because if you are a shaft player you wont get into the falling bonuses like other players, you will just have to snipe and that needs a lot of work and low rewards. but the new dynamics for shaft will let it be used better with fast tanks rather than the big ones . 

Imagine using shaft with hornet this time, it will add a lot of action to the snipers, it will be like in movies .

Good job Hazel Rah 

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Just some house-keeping questions

 

- Is it true that Ricochet and Firebird will be best after the physics update

 

- Should I wait until I buy/upgrade anything in my garage until I view the new updates?

 

Thanks!

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Just some house-keeping questions

 

- Is it true that Ricochet and Firebird will be best after the physics update

 

- Should I wait until I buy/upgrade anything in my garage until I view the new updates?

 

Thanks!

All turrets will have an advantage in different maps. There won't be a "best' turret since everything will be balanced.

Yes, I'd advise you to wait before purchasing/upgrading anything for now. The updates should be implemented soon :)

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Just some house-keeping questions

 

- Is it true that Ricochet and Firebird will be best after the physics update

 

- Should I wait until I buy/upgrade anything in my garage until I view the new updates?

 

Thanks!

Yes its true, they both unlock at the highest ranks and firebird m3 its already opt, just the rico test results are still unsatisfactory yet, but as icerugby said, its better not to go for any upgrades until you wait and see for some few days, otherwise you may go updating something you may regret .

Its a common sense, a mistake happened, be at the developers seat and think, why would i unlock rico m3 at one of the highest ranks O_o

Unless if i make it available to the same rank as with thunder, otherwise i have to make it just like how it was before the rebalance. 

And firebird m3, its a monster !

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To the people getting crushed by Twins; buy a paint that gives twins protection!!. I have twins M2 and have paints to protect against other turrets so the complainers should do likewise.

I'm VERY VERY glad that Twins will be nerfed! That thing is so flipping overpowered. We don't really need the protection paints against Twins since the damage output of that gun is somewhat "wimp". It's the knock back! The knock back of Twins is just annoying, and often knock our aims off... So, go on Tanki and enjoy your Twins M2 + drugs glorious days while it lasts.

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Go physics updates !!!! This will be cool especially friz effect gone , I always hated friz for the effect but in any other way it a great perfectly balanced gun , also this twins thing is gonna get worse which is awsome especially when I am facing colonel-above

 

Anyways GO PHYSICS UPDATES

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You guys remind me of when Arty got Nerfed In World of Tanks, and mostly everyone complained about it was almost useless now, even though they were just making arty so 

you couldn't just Point and Left Click.

 

Its called game balance, and it makes the game more fun, and interesting because it gets rid of all the people who just find the weapons that has the most DPM (Twins), Find a battle and hold the SpaceBar. They win because this Twins is killing people, left and right, even if he doesn't even know how to turn the turret.

 

Freeze was Op, And now it won't be. Now you have a chance to actually capture flags before that freeze that you just killed respawns with you still crawling, trying to get back to your base with the flag.

 

Really people, Most of you are pretty much complaining about Shaft getting buffed...

 

Ricochet is getting Buffed as well, as it was one of the most useless Guns on the battlefield. After this game re-balance,  Rico will actually be worth bringing to battles. 

 

Railgun, Isida, Thunder, Smoky, Firebird they are fairly balanced, much of any more or less would be unbalancing to the game  

They're now not fear of arties but the autoloaders! The new "WaffleTraktor E-100" ruined the game. It has the most accurate gun in the game, epic aiming time, good mobility and its an autoloader!

 

 

And I though Foch 50 (155) is OP... :unsure:

 

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Entered test server and had M3's except Mammoth, Smoky, Freeeze, Dictator, Titan...

 

And paints like Zeus, Picasso, Prodigi, Emerald

 

I had only 500 crys and got myself 10 DP

 

I made new account and that is what happened, did devs put that or what?

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till now rico tests are not so promising :/   i don't think it will get back as it was before the rebalance, unless by a more hard work devs are doing right now.


As one mod said, all guns will be equally effective but according to every gun's use and map, however this will create contradictions, we have most of guns unlock at totally different ranks


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Entered test server and had M3's except Mammoth, Smoky, Freeeze, Dictator, Titan...

 

And paints like Zeus, Picasso, Prodigi, Emerald

 

I had only 500 crys and got myself 10 DP

 

I made new account and that is what happened, did devs put that or what?

And now everybody is playing without mammoth and drugs but there are some random players that have Mammoth M3, how is that fair

 

Please give us /addcry

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And now everybody is playing without mammoth and drugs but there are some random players that have Mammoth M3, how is that fair

 

Please give us /addcry

They made an old account, that's why they have mammoth etc.

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REBALANCE ?

I am a Shaft Player and one reason why I chose Shaft was not only because of its sniper mode but also because that it could shoot like thunder without sniping

Now knowing that it will take 8 sec to reload and yet can not destroy a tank in one shoot, makes its value miserable. Imagine most of Shafts are destroying a tank with two shots.

First shot is fully charged and second is just regular shot. But now there won't be any time to shoot second time before getting destroyed.. If this happens to shaft then I would like to give my shaft away and choose another weapon instead

When I chose the weapons that I have bought and upgraded, I considered their current specifications. And if you change the specifications then you should refund us

Then bring REBALANCE and I will get rid of my shaft m3 gladly and buy another weapon instead of it

The idea of shaft is that you hide along way from the fighting and snipe. if you are found out you die just like real life. thats why you must choose maps more carefully when the changes happen!!

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so basically make the game boring is that what your saying ?

Noooo! thats not what i am saying at all. What i am saying is that they should adjust all tanks in some way not just pick on twins and freeze. They are obviously shaft users who keep getting owned by freeze and twins that is why they are crippling them!!

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I'm VERY VERY glad that Twins will be nerfed! That thing is so flipping overpowered. We don't really need the protection paints against Twins since the damage output of that gun is somewhat "wimp". It's the knock back! The knock back of Twins is just annoying, and often knock our aims off... So, go on Tanki and enjoy your Twins M2 + drugs glorious days while it lasts.

so by your reckoning they should also get rid of the smoky kick back so that the poor rail gun owners do not lose their aim if they get hit when firing! I hate druggers if it were possible to ban them i would vote for it!! Oh and by the way i have tried all guns and found no different level of skill is required, you just have to know how to get the best out of them. As for the twins players who insist on leaving the spacebar depressed you will find they are noobs, when you progress to a higher rank you will see for youself!

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