New physics model for tanks

[Miahak 1,596]

I don't know the details, but ofcourse wasp will be faster than hornet. I don't know if hornet will be as fast as wasp is now, but wasp will be faster than what the stats show at the moment.

where are the new physic, i thought its gonna come out on, Nov 2013 

[icerugby 1,886]

where are the new physic, i thought its gonna come out on, Nov 2013 

It's still planned for the start of the next month. Better that it takes longer and has no bugs, then it being implemented too early and be 'infested' with bugs :)

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

The question here is not whether the twins are stronger than other weapons or not, the issue here is trust. If I buy a next-generation television and after 6 months the store where I bought into my home without my permission, and put my TV with black & white ... I will be happy and give jumps of joy?? No!! I'm not ******ed! This is what the Tanki team does every time invades MY garage and CHANGE MY guns and tanks!!

 

This is why I do not buy crystals in this game, there is NO TRUST!

 

Guns and tanks have to be planned and tested BEFORE, not after the players have bought them.

  

Do not change the rules halfway through the game.

 

Negative note for TankiOnline in this question! 

Twins will have bigger plasma balls (which will blind the opponent's shot a bit more) and other than m3 (which will stay the same) the other modifications will have an increased fire rate!

 

With the television example, what if it was different. What if you bought a 32 inch regular 2000's television and "the store where" you "bought into" your "home without" your "permission, and put" your "TV with" 3D HD 65 inch television with a Wii, xBox 360, and a Play Station. Now, what should they do then? Would you like them to make the exchange? Of course you would. They did this because they made an error in the way they sold you the 32 inch television and gave the bigger, better television with game systems instead for free. At the same time in your example, they may have made an error with your next-generation television which was not meant to be and meant to give you the black and white television instead of all you got so they had to made the change. Tanki's just balancing the weapons and hulls and giving them new physics.

 

There is no gratefulness. No gratefulness as the Tanki developers give you this great game with the possibility to be free packed with endless fun, give you opportunities to make purchases, put on big sales, have organized tournaments, and do so much work and you don't even have the nerve to give them a simple "Thank-you"?

 

Negative note for the majority of the players in this note.

Edited November 25, 2013 by JonathanBernatowicz

[StrahinjA_FDL-PFC 0]

What do you think whether to upgrade

VIKING because the will be faster after the

MU of weapons have a smoky m1, thunder

m1, m1 railgun. ?? or i upgrade dictator

m1 or hunter m1 i cant decide ??

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

What do you think whether to upgrade

VIKING because the will be faster after the

MU of weapons have a smoky m1, thunder

m1, m1 railgun. ?? or i upgrade dictator

m1 or hunter m1 i cant decide ??

Railgun m1's so much fun, I recommend it.

[StrahinjA_FDL-PFC 0]

I mean .... what do you think the upgrade viking say it will be fast after MU?

[I_LOVE_YOU_MY_KARINA 13]

Twins will have bigger plasma balls (which will blind the opponent's shot a bit more) and other than m3 (which will stay the same) the other modifications will have an increased fire rate!

 

With the television example, what if it was different. What if you bought a 32 inch regular 2000's television and "the store where" you "bought into" your "home without" your "permission, and put" your "TV with" 3D HD 65 inch television with a Wii, xBox 360, and a Play Station. Now, what should they do then? Would you like them to make the exchange? Of course you would. They did this because they made an error in the way they sold you the 32 inch television and gave the bigger, better television with game systems instead for free. At the same time in your example, they may have made an error with your next-generation television which was not meant to be and meant to give you the black and white television instead of all you got so they had to made the change. Tanki's just balancing the weapons and hulls and giving them new physics.

 

There is no gratefulness. No gratefulness as the Tanki developers give you this great game with the possibility to be free packed with endless fun, give you opportunities to make purchases, put on big sales, have organized tournaments, and do so much work and you don't even have the nerve to give them a simple "Thank-you"?

 

Negative note for the majority of the players in this note.

Obviously you do not understand the meaning of what I wrote. 

[Nltobh 498]

Isnt the Physics being tested in the Test server at the moment?

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

Obviously you do not understand the meaning of what I wrote. 

Okay then, would you like to explain it further? Here's what I understood from what you were saying, first sentence was you expressing that Twins will be nerfed. I replied simply facts that while the projectile speed will be slower, the plasma balls will be bigger (which may cause bigger impact, I don't know) and the rate of fire will definitely not be slower. The next four sentences (still in that "paragraph") were you taking an example of how the people who gave you a television then stole it and gave you a new one. I then reversed it and attempted to make you think about the opposite scenario. You then explained how there is no trust in buying a turret or hull with real money. Then you said how the developers must test the aspects before it's introduced. They do...a lot! But they 1. Needed it to happen sooner rather than later so they could progress on other updates and 2. Didn't know all these errors and it was impossible to do comprehend the future of this update. Now that they know what went wrong, what went right, what needs to be changed, how the game can be more entertaining for players, etc., they can adapt. You then attempted to insult the developers of Tanki Online and practically said something like this, "You guys need to test these much more and get it right. The facts I've displayed here should not be ignored and I've just showed something negative about you." I then reversed your last 4 sentences and explained why the players themselves should have more gratefulness and practically said what I said.

 

The majority of the players are ungrateful for what Tanki Online is doing and this is something negative about most of them. Earlier I said a statement which was proven wrong, and which I'm happy about (as the only reason I argue is to be proven wrong, which means that I can now change my point of view and not be wrong about that in the future). DYKT said that not giving a sale on Christmas is despicable, and I agreed with that. Though not being grateful or what Tanki Online is giving you, is something I will never belong to.

Edited November 26, 2013 by JonathanBernatowicz

[I_LOVE_YOU_MY_KARINA 13]

Okay then, would you like to explain it further? Here's what I understood from what you were saying, first sentence was you expressing that Twins will be nerfed. I replied simply facts that while the projectile speed will be slower, the plasma balls will be bigger (which may cause bigger impact, I don't know) and the rate of fire will definitely not be slower. The next four sentences (still in that "paragraph") were you taking an example of how the people who gave you a television then stole it and gave you a new one. I then reversed it and attempted to make you think about the opposite scenario. You then explained how there is no trust in buying a turret or hull with real money. Then you said how the developers must test the aspects before it's introduced. They do...a lot! But they 1. Needed it to happen sooner rather than later so they could progress on other updates and 2. Didn't know all these errors and it was impossible to do comprehend the future of this update. Now that they know what went wrong, what went right, what needs to be changed, how the game can be more entertaining for players, etc., they can adapt. You then attempted to insult the developers of Tanki Online and practically said something like this, "You guys need to test these much more and get it right. The facts I've displayed here should not be ignored and I've just showed something negative about you." I then reversed your last 4 sentences and explained why the players themselves should have more gratefulness and practically said what I said.

 

The majority of the players are ungrateful for what Tanki Online is doing and this is something negative about most of them. Earlier I said a statement which was proven wrong, and which I'm happy about (as the only reason I argue is to be proven wrong, which means that I can now change my point of view and not be wrong about that in the future). DYKT said that not giving a sale on Christmas is despicable, and I agreed with that. Though not being grateful or what Tanki Online is giving you, is something I will never belong to.

ok I get it you should be a person who likes to argue. Each one has its own way of being. I expressed my point of view about a specific subject that displeases me. I find no reason to continue this conversation with you. Have a good day (or night).

[StrahinjA_FDL-PFC 0]

can you tell me what hull the a upgrade hunter m1 , viking m1 or dictator m1 after MU ?

[dardayy 493]

Twins will have bigger plasma balls (which will blind the opponent's shot a bit more) and other than m3 (which will stay the same) the other modifications will have an increased fire rate!

 

With the television example, what if it was different. What if you bought a 32 inch regular 2000's television and "the store where" you "bought into" your "home without" your "permission, and put" your "TV with" 3D HD 65 inch television with a Wii, xBox 360, and a Play Station. Now, what should they do then? Would you like them to make the exchange? Of course you would. They did this because they made an error in the way they sold you the 32 inch television and gave the bigger, better television with game systems instead for free. At the same time in your example, they may have made an error with your next-generation television which was not meant to be and meant to give you the black and white television instead of all you got so they had to made the change. Tanki's just balancing the weapons and hulls and giving them new physics.

 

There is no gratefulness. No gratefulness as the Tanki developers give you this great game with the possibility to be free packed with endless fun, give you opportunities to make purchases, put on big sales, have organized tournaments, and do so much work and you don't even have the nerve to give them a simple "Thank-you"?

 

Negative note for the majority of the players in this note.

What do you see in this video at 1:55 about twins? despite what the video shows is not the final changes.. and right now the push effect by twins has been removed

http://www.youtube.c...7zX_ad2eY#t=120

Edited November 26, 2013 by dardayy

[I_LOVE_YOU_MY_KARINA 13]

Are you saying that is already happening? The twins are already weaker?  :(

[RampagingVenom 554]

Are you saying that is already happening? The twins are already weaker?  :(

That`s what I am thinking as well

possibly there is live battle testing of new physics going on? 

[I_LOVE_YOU_MY_KARINA 13]

That`s what I am thinking as well

possibly there is live battle testing of new physics going on? 

Thanks for answering. That must be it ... :unsure:

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

The reload and charge time should both be 3 maybe 4 seconds. DO NOT make the reload time 8 seconds.

If the charge time is 8 seconds and the reload time is 3 seconds (opposite of what was mentioned in the video) then that's fine; i think that is the current physics.

Thanks for the update, i look forward to using hornet.

reload of 8 seconds is fine,because it charges superfast and now will be used more with hide and strike strategies

Will be able to shoot fast strikes after a powerfull shoot?

For example you give a full charge to a viking near to you and you must wait 8 seconds to recharge again when you need only a tiny shoot to destroy it?

[USA-POWER 227]

Are you saying that is already happening? The twins are already weaker?  :(

Go check under the Twins' topic, you will find that people are saying "yes twins has changed and its not like before" 

Edited November 26, 2013 by USA-POWER

[dardayy 493]

reload of 8 seconds is fine,because it charges superfast and now will be used more with hide and strike strategies

Will be able to shoot fast strikes after a powerfull shoot?

For example you give a full charge to a viking near to you and you must wait 8 seconds to recharge again when you need only a tiny shoot to destroy it?

This will make from shaft a very powerful weapon, and you can use it with faster hulls than the slow mammoth, this time shaft players will be able to get into bonuses and not just keep watching them being picked up by others.

You will act like a real sniper who hide and seek, but those who count on mammoth wont like it ..an

P.S. there is an on future plan to switch in between sniping mode and normal mode,  because after the new physics shaft wont be able to shoot faster like before but will snipe and zoom much faster and will mostly hit targets with less mistakes and more damage

Edited November 26, 2013 by dardayy

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

ok I get it you should be a person who likes to argue. Each one has its own way of being. I expressed my point of view about a specific subject that displeases me. I find no reason to continue this conversation with you. Have a good day (or night).

I do like to argue. When I do, I'm more self-confident of myself or a current aspect of life. That is, if I'm right. If I'm wrong, I now know the "right" and how I was wrong. So arguing is helpful both ways, win or lose. People take that as a bad thing, I see it as a great thing. And since you weren't even close to making me wrong, I have all the reasons to believe I'm right.

 

Thank-you, I will try  :)

Edited November 26, 2013 by JonathanBernatowicz

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

What do you see in this video at 1:55 about twins? 

I have, it looks perfectly fine to me. :)

 

 despite what the video shows is not the final changes.

Well, the video doesn't show that this is the final changes. However, it is not the final changes and if you see Twins being a bad turret maybe they'll make it better in the days coming :)

 

and right now the push effect by twins has been removed

No it's not, I just used Twins and the push effect's as good as always.

Edited November 26, 2013 by JonathanBernatowicz

[I_LOVE_YOU_MY_KARINA 13]

Go check under the Twins' topic, you will find that people are saying "yes twins has changed and its not like before" 

ok thanks USA  :) .

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

@ mervin / Jonathan... and anyone else... please read this.

 

In regards to the 'argument' you two were debating about, I'd like to express my opinion on the matter.

 

I understand what both of you are saying, and I agree with both of you on a few things.

 

I think mervin is right when it is wrong to change an item after the purchase of it. Especially if its an item that they count on, and invested a large amount of money into it. If the item is being changed at that point, the customer deserves either a REFUND or a STORE-CREDIT. It is simply wrong to let someone buy something, and then change it after you've taken their money.

 

Now I realize sometimes things needed to be changed, for balance. Not everyone is perfect, and its impossible to keep everything perfectly balanced at all times when making big changes in equipment. As respect towards the customers, there is NO reason why they cannot be given some sort of reimbursement. If not a full refund, at least a 50% refund of crystals if requested. You know what the absolute most annoying thing is, when you purchase an item in real life? When they have a policy which says NO RETURNS. The only time that this should apply, is in yard sales or pawn shops, or places like that. But any 'new' item should be able to have a sell-back value of some sort.

 

And Jonathan, about us tanki players being grateful, or ungrateful... well think about other companies first of all. First lets think about a restuarant. When you walk into a quality restuarant, you first of all EXPECT the chefs and employees there to know exactly what they're doing. They should be fully experienced and qualified and professional. They should be respectful to the customer. Now, say you order a nice steak, a filet mignon. You ask for it to be cooked medium, with a slight warm pink center. You also ask for a side of broccoli, a baked potato, with sour cream, and you ask for an order of bread rolls. Now you finally get your food, after waiting patiently for some time. You taste everything, the broccoli, the baked potato, the bread, its all amazing! Except one thing.. the steak... it has been over cooked. It is not pink in the center at all, but is nearly burnt...... You ask to speak with the manager/chef. First you tell them that everything was great, but the steak was not to your liking. JUST IMAGINE if they replied: WHAT!? Seriously? Do you know how much work I put into making that steak? Its a nice portion size, expensive seasonings were used in making it, I cooked it and it looked fine! AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SIDES?! You said those were good! YOU"RE SO UNGRATEFUL!

 

Now... think about what just happened.... then you should understand what the clear next step is in this equation. The customer should receive either a refund for his steak, or he should be cooked another one to perfection, at his liking. In Tanki Online, the customers expect top quality from a respectful team, with very qualified workers. If you're going to make even small mistakes, or delay expectations that you've put into the mind of your customer, there is a penalty, on YOUR part.

 

Imagine if the waitress told the customer, "Your food will be here shortly!" But 5 minutes pass.. and it still has not arrived. Once again the waitress comes by with the same hopeful remark. 10 minutes pass... your stomach is now aching as you are starving. 3 more minutes pass and the Chef comes out from the back and says 'be patient, let me slow-cook your food so itll taste better, jeez dont rush me." At this point you're enraged. You came to buy a product, and it is not what you paid for. You came in looking for top-notch service. So what do you do? YOU GIVE A BAD TIP.

 

These comments should tell you something. If we are angry, there is a reason for it. Your customers expect perfection, or near perfection. If we invest money in something, or time for that matter, we require that our expectations are met. There is no 'be grateful for the other good parts..' in this world of business. Its not how this world works... If a company wants to find success, they need everything to fall into place perfectly. If they are lacking in one area, then there is a problem, and their success should be based on their quality of service.

Edited November 26, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[Arcohhs 67]

Well done,Now we can drift more :P

Gymkhana Time! :D

[dardayy 493]

I have, it looks perfectly fine to me. :)

 

Yes because it changed back today, its changing everyday, otherwise all the players who did comment under the topic of twins were delusional. 

[USA-POWER 227]

Yes because it changed back today, its changing everyday, otherwise all the players who did comment under the topic of twins were delusional. 

Its totally true, yesterday Twins were totally without any push effects and their power were too low, but today their push effects are back to the half of previous, yesterday freeze could kill a titan m3 with 20% anti freeze protection with one load of shooting, Rico m3 isn't the same as rico 2 weeks ago

Rail got more powerful "not exceeding its stats' limits but tending more to its max range of damage"

Anyway nothing is certain and this discussion wont reach a thing until the final physics be released. Tanki will have to make sure that all people get satisfied with the results, but to avoid a refund they came out with the idea of MUs, You will spend crystals on different guns to change certain parameters but not equally the same, e.g. smoky wont have the same chance to increase its fire rate as with thunder

through this they are trying to bring more funds and balance without doing refund, A refund is the right thing to respect the customers, and now i will expect some who pretend to talk in logic to come out with some excuses, and everybody knows why they are doing that.

I will not comment anymore nor reply anyone. our voices are just useless.

Edited November 26, 2013 by USA-POWER