Parkour Discussion / Q&A

[magnaboy2 656]

On 2/8/2024 at 3:12 AM, SwiftSmoky said:

When I was the parkour admin, only the community manager decided about the Official status. If it was up to me, Phoenix wouldn't have existed in the first place. Besides, if I asked to remove Phoenix back then, people (probably including the community manager) would think I'm just being a TFP hater (because of the fight between the clubs at the time).

If you had removed Phoenix from TFP, I would've gotten very mad , even if I never wore it

[Helios 722]

It's sad to see Parkour dying with no contests or events dedicated to it. If anyone says otherwise, they are simply lying or hiding the truth.
It's almost been an year with no contest or event dedicated to Parkour. @Marcus Should really do something about this.
 

[Helios 722]

On 3/11/2024 at 10:09 AM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

Its just paint dude, skills matter not paint, if you do parkour for paint you never cared about parkour.

Well,  we are no one to judge what matters most to a person. Most people in this world compete for titles, awards, cash prizes or for fame.
For parkourists these paints mean a lot since its their reward for something they have acheived. 
Like you said skill matters most is true, but skill is what gets you to win the contest or event and that is what gets you the paint.
I care about paint/rewards as much as I care about parkouring. It's only human to want a reward for the work you do!

Edited March 15, 2024 by PopSmoke

[Lennard 3,270]

On 3/17/2024 at 3:32 PM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

why tanki is in decline in supporting parkour. in particular not promoting it.

You have already answered this question. Unfortunately, it is indeed true that parkour does not make the company any money. That's why they don't support it, unlike esports.

 

 

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

On 3/8/2024 at 6:09 AM, Devoid said:

Then switch that rule to something along the lines of “A player can only receive support from one club. Players in more than one club must contact the Parkour Clubs Manager via forum PM, stating which club they would like to receive support from.”

I agree 99%. When a rule says "be member of only 1 club", it is not clear to people that the intention of this rule is only about double club support and not about everything else people think of as club membership. Also, this way you don't allow them to receive credit in the club's forum topic for their participation in an equal way to other players in the club.

The only 1% of disagreement I have is about the complication of deciding which club to receive support from. I think it'd be better if people didn't have to worry about it, and instead had a limit to the amount of support per time that a member of multiple clubs gets. Clubs will likely vary in activity, and it will suck for players who maybe dedicate twice the time, effort and supplies on playing in 2 clubs to only receive half the reward they deserve, or even less if they happen to be registered to receive support from the currently less active club. I suggest at least letting players receive a maximum of 2 "support packages" per month, or 3 packages per 2 months, something like that, I don't know the current upload rates and value of a single support package for one video, so I don't know what a reasonable limit would be.

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

On 3/9/2024 at 2:54 AM, magnaboy2 said:

If you had removed Phoenix from TFP, I would've gotten very mad , even if I never wore it

Yeah, a bunch of people would be mad, and another bunch would be happy, that's the political nature of club paints. Opinions depend mostly on club membership, friendships, values and concerns. TFP members wanted the paint of course, at some point their forum topic even said that's the club's mission. Some others disagreed on who deserves the paint. And yet another group of people was bothered by problems the paint (or even the idea of it) caused. For TFP getting Phoenix was a dream come true, for some it was a symbol of injustice and neglect, and for some it was a reason for many fights that spoiled the friendly atmosphere of the parkour community (which is either bad or good, depending on how much they love the drama). As most people probably know, I'm in the "don't want the paint's issues" camp.

When FnF got Phoenix too, I chose not to reject it because I knew some of my club members will enjoy it, and that it will make some people relax and feel that justice has been restored. But it came at a cost that my club and I wouldn't have to pay if Phoenix simply didn't exist.

By the way @Adab, this is an example of how the existence of the paint affects even people who personally reject it. Rejecting the paint for my whole club was a bad option, even though they knew when joining the club what the leaders thought about the paint. And I sure as hell wouldn't leave the club or split it or harm it in any other way just to stay away from the paint. When you tell people that they can just choose to stay away from the paint, you neglect people's friendships and dedication to a club, and the difficulty of leaving it and starting a new club or joining one.

[squirrellover 11]

Hi, does anybody know if Onyx is the current paint for the Polish parkour club, and if it replaced the Phoenix paint? 

[Lennard 3,270]

 

On 3/29/2024 at 3:07 AM, squirrellover said:

Hi, does anybody know if Onyx is the current paint for the Polish parkour club, and if it replaced the Phoenix paint? 

At the time when PTT was about to become official in the PL community, they were given the option to choose between the Onyx and Eagle texture. The Eagle texture was chosen. The Onyx texture became 'useless' and somehow the paint description remained the same as Eagle.

 

But now the Polish Tanki Tutorials no longer exists. They lost Eagle paint there because the PL community got closed.

 

Onyx got a new life with the new 'Support Program'. Only clubs that meet certain requirements receive the paint.

 

The requirements for Phoenix have also changed. At the moment, no parkour club has it (apparently it takes almost 4 months (!) to decide which next club will get the Phoenix paint). The new owners should be announced soon (hopefully...).

 

[squirrellover 11]

Ok, thanks for the information! 

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Devoid said:

I urge you to take other routes as well. Bringing back some parkour contests, showing this community’s content in the v-log, maybe something new even.

The more ways we can generate publicity, the more interest we can see.

Yep, that's my plan

 

On 3/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Devoid said:

Then switch that rule to something along the lines of “A player can only receive support from one club. Players in more than one club must contact the Parkour Clubs Manager via forum PM, stating which club they would like to receive support from.”

Oh, and it’d be worthwhile to add a connecting rule that adds some form of opportunity for players to switch which club they are receiving support from, but also be sure to include a limit on such. Maybe this could look something like “If a player wants to change which club they are receiving support from (such as due to leaving one club yet remaining in another), they can contact the Parkour Clubs Manager via forum PM to initiate such a change. This is only permitted once per year though, so be mindful when sending such a PM.”

Oh I didn't say that we have the rule so that players can receive Support Resources only from 1 Parkour Club, we have the rule for multiple reasons such as to promote competition among Parkour Clubs, to reduce confusion, to make it easier for everyone to identify which Parkour Club a player belongs to, etc. 

 

On 3/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Devoid said:

I would love to see how. Please, do not just recite the rule(s) though, please explain clearly how this benefits new clubs/clubs without 30+ videos.

Like you’ve seen, I personally have misinterpreted your rules, and I assume I am not the only one to have done this. If you explain the background of a rule (especially in layman’s terms), all of us in this community would be appreciative, and maybe we’d actually show some more support towards you and your rules.

Sure, here is how: By setting a clear and well-defined path for receiving benefits such as Support Spectator Accounts and Support Resources (which includes supplies and Crystals). Before the Parkour Rules came into effect, your parkour club had to actively produce high-quality Tanki Online parkour videos with good Tanki Online parkour tricks, recording and editing to get supported (with no set number of videos that your parkour club must produce in this manner in order to get supported), and the first form of support was only supplies, spectator accounts were given only to parkour clubs that proved a lot more skill, dedication and long-lasting activity (and I think there was a time when parkour clubs didn't get spectator accounts because they already had members who had spectator accounts through some other ways). Now with the Parkour Rules in effect, you simply need to make sure you are eligible (by meeting the Eligibility Requirements of the Parkour Club Support Program) to join the Parkour Club Support Program and then easily apply and join the program and receive the benefits of the Bronze (even though the benefits of this level aren't huge, they are still something, something is better than nothing) or the Silver level of the program, and then publish a certain number of videos that are only at least 1 minute long and related to Parkour to get promoted to the Silver or the Gold level of the program. Your Parkour Club doesn't even have to produce high-quality Parkour videos with good Parkour tricks, recording and editing to become eligible to join the Parkour Club Support Program. Maybe the Parkour Rules does not favor new Parkour Clubs and Parkour Clubs that are not in the Gold level of the Parkour Club Support Program as much as it favors old Parkour Clubs and Parkour Clubs that are in the Gold level of the Parkour Club Support Program, but it still favors all Parkour Clubs (more than any previous system that existed before the Parkour Rules was published)

I hope I made things clear for you; if not, then let me know. Also, feel free to always ask me to explain anything related to Parkour Club Programs or any rule of the Parkour Rules in layman's terms 

 

On 3/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Devoid said:

I think that would be better. Thank you in advance for taking my opinion into consideration.

Alright. You are welcome

 

On 3/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Devoid said:

Pedantic much?

If Helpers weren’t prohibited from making major changes in their nicknames, I’d suggest you initiate a nickname change.

Well, I expected that you would respond this way, I wasn't being pedantic, I was just clarifying, because I didn't want any misunderstanding to happen as I have seen how such small things can lead to a big misunderstanding in the future. I do not understand what you mean by "If Helpers weren’t prohibited from making major changes in their nicknames, I’d suggest you initiate a nickname change."

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/15/2024 at 5:11 PM, Kerala said:

It's sad to see Parkour dying with no contests or events dedicated to it. If anyone says otherwise, they are simply lying or hiding the truth.
It's almost been an year with no contest or event dedicated to Parkour. @Marcus Should really do something about this.

It is sad indeed

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/17/2024 at 5:32 PM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

There is something i wanted to ask long time, why tanki is in decline in supporting parkour. in particular not promoting it. Yes it doesnt generate money which is all tanki care about, please dont edit or delete my post because of obvious thing i stated. If parkour ends which it basically is now, tanki will have nothing interesting to have in game, parkour is unique and is what still sets tanki apart of how old the game is. Every online game have matchmaking, every game have battle pass. Hazel himself probably never in his time in tanki tried parkour, the feeling of flying and good clubmates that know what they are doing, its like nothing else in this game. But who im to tell that tanki is going in wrong direction for many years. 

Its always on these that are above us. We as regular players have no point of trying to push tanki into something, last time it happened was alts into containers, yet tanki still did it their own way. May as well stop giving ideas etc because there is NO POINT.

This is something that I am not fully sure about, I hope @Marcus will answer this

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/20/2024 at 4:23 PM, SwiftSmoky said:

I agree 99%. When a rule says "be member of only 1 club", it is not clear to people that the intention of this rule is only about double club support and not about everything else people think of as club membership. Also, this way you don't allow them to receive credit in the club's forum topic for their participation in an equal way to other players in the club.

The only 1% of disagreement I have is about the complication of deciding which club to receive support from. I think it'd be better if people didn't have to worry about it, and instead had a limit to the amount of support per time that a member of multiple clubs gets. Clubs will likely vary in activity, and it will suck for players who maybe dedicate twice the time, effort and supplies on playing in 2 clubs to only receive half the reward they deserve, or even less if they happen to be registered to receive support from the currently less active club. I suggest at least letting players receive a maximum of 2 "support packages" per month, or 3 packages per 2 months, something like that, I don't know the current upload rates and value of a single support package for one video, so I don't know what a reasonable limit would be.

The intention of the rule is not only about "double club support", it is actually about everything else people think of as club membership. As I said in an above post, we have the rule for multiple reasons such as to promote competition among Parkour Clubs, to reduce confusion, to make it easier for everyone to identify which Parkour Club a player belongs to, etc.

But because some players do not like that they are only allowed to be a Member of 1 Parkour Club at a time, I already talked to our Community Manager (in 2023 itself) about allowing players to be in an unlimited number of Parkour Clubs at a time but he didn't agree to that, so do not expect any change to the rule

Anyway, nice idea about "support packages"

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/20/2024 at 5:33 PM, SwiftSmoky said:

Yeah, a bunch of people would be mad, and another bunch would be happy, that's the political nature of club paints. Opinions depend mostly on club membership, friendships, values and concerns. TFP members wanted the paint of course, at some point their forum topic even said that's the club's mission. Some others disagreed on who deserves the paint. And yet another group of people was bothered by problems the paint (or even the idea of it) caused. For TFP getting Phoenix was a dream come true, for some it was a symbol of injustice and neglect, and for some it was a reason for many fights that spoiled the friendly atmosphere of the parkour community (which is either bad or good, depending on how much they love the drama). As most people probably know, I'm in the "don't want the paint's issues" camp.

When FnF got Phoenix too, I chose not to reject it because I knew some of my club members will enjoy it, and that it will make some people relax and feel that justice has been restored. But it came at a cost that my club and I wouldn't have to pay if Phoenix simply didn't exist.

By the way @Adab, this is an example of how the existence of the paint affects even people who personally reject it. Rejecting the paint for my whole club was a bad option, even though they knew when joining the club what the leaders thought about the paint. And I sure as hell wouldn't leave the club or split it or harm it in any other way just to stay away from the paint. When you tell people that they can just choose to stay away from the paint, you neglect people's friendships and dedication to a club, and the difficulty of leaving it and starting a new club or joining one.

As a Leader of FeatherLike, I have myself seen the disadvantages that I and FeatherLike had to face simply because of the Phoenix paint, and if I start listing all those disadvantages then I might end up writing a book (haha), but I still do not think the Phoenix paint must not exist because I do not think that its existence played a major role in causing all those disadvantages, I think many other factors played a major role in causing all those disadvantages (and I think such factors can be traced all the way back to how the Phoenix paint was first issued in 2016)

How am I neglecting people's friendships and dedication to a club when I tell people they can just choose to stay away from the paint? Being a Member of an Official Parkour Club does not mean you must get the paint or you will get the paint, only 14 Members of an Official Parkour Club can get the paint and the Leader (of the Official Parkour Club) can decide which Members of their Club will get the paint (which means you, as a Member of an Official Parkour Club for example, can simply tell the Leader of your Club that you do not want the paint and you can continue being a Member of the Club without having the paint) 

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/29/2024 at 5:07 AM, squirrellover said:

Hi, does anybody know if Onyx is the current paint for the Polish parkour club, and if it replaced the Phoenix paint? 

As @Lennard said above, Onyx is not the current paint for the Polish parkour club and it did not replace the Phoenix paint. The Onyx paint is the Program Paint of the Parkour Club Support Program and the Phoenix paint is one of the Program Paints of the Official Parkour Club Program

[Adab 2,896]

On 3/29/2024 at 9:38 AM, Lennard said:

At the moment, no parkour club has it (apparently it takes almost 4 months (!) to decide which next club will get the Phoenix paint). The new owners should be announced soon (hopefully...).

It is not taking almost 4 months to "decide" which next club will get the Phoenix paint. As I told you personally in Discord DM, there are multiple reasons why it is currently taking a lot of time to accept a Parkour Club into the Official Parkour Club Program 

[Adab 2,896]

On 4/17/2024 at 6:54 PM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

I want tell my honest opinion, parkour as whole (jumping on houses) in tanki looks like its dead will something be done about it? High positions moderators.

Sure, please tell me what exactly about jumping on houses looks like it is dead (I can assume but it would be better if you tell me so that I can understand what exactly you mean)

[Adab 2,896]

On 4/22/2024 at 5:41 PM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

I stated specifically jumping on houses because its real parkour, not parkour fights in case someone misunderstood me.

I know, I am asking what exactly about jumping on houses you are talking about, because I cannot do much if you simply say something like "jumping on houses seems dead"

[Devoid 2,601]

I personally feel that any instance within the Parkour Rules, Official Club Program guidelines, and Parkour Club Support Program guidelines in which it is detailed that parkour club videos to be at least 2 minutes long needs to be reworked/changed.

Similar to my previous post about not requiring videos to be in 60 FPS, I feel this new requirement similarly casts a boundary on the creativity of club editors. Some of such editors could have intentionally made a video shorter than 2 minutes as a stylistic choice, and I think they should be allowed to make that choice and still have their work recognized and rewarded by the Official Club Program and Club Support Program.

I understand that some people enjoy videos in which there is more content than just clips of tricks themselves (such as showing cinematics of setups, or of jumpers on buildings), but I personally think others/some of those same people can also enjoy videos that are much faster-paced (and likely, shorter in length) - just the same. I recognize that enjoyment across the board could be lost if videos get too short, but in defense, a) there is still a part of that same rule that requires at least 8 tricks to be presented, and b) I am not saying that the length requirement needs to be outright abolished necessarily, I just think it should be reduced (such as to 1:30).

 

I am eager to hear others' feedback however, whether you agree or disagree, and I especially look forward to your take on this proposition, @Adab 

[I_Lauv_You 221]

On 5/10/2024 at 4:39 PM, Devoid said:

I personally feel that any instance within the Parkour Rules, Official Club Program guidelines, and Parkour Club Support Program guidelines in which it is detailed that parkour club videos to be at least 2 minutes long needs to be reworked/changed.

Similar to my previous post about not requiring videos to be in 60 FPS, I feel this new requirement similarly casts a boundary on the creativity of club editors. Some of such editors could have intentionally made a video shorter than 2 minutes as a stylistic choice, and I think they should be allowed to make that choice and still have their work recognized and rewarded by the Official Club Program and Club Support Program.

I understand that some people enjoy videos in which there is more content than just clips of tricks themselves (such as showing cinematics of setups, or of jumpers on buildings), but I personally think others/some of those same people can also enjoy videos that are much faster-paced (and likely, shorter in length) - just the same. I recognize that enjoyment across the board could be lost if videos get too short, but in defense, a) there is still a part of that same rule that requires at least 8 tricks to be presented, and b) I am not saying that the length requirement needs to be outright abolished necessarily, I just think it should be reduced (such as to 1:30).

 

I am eager to hear others' feedback however, whether you agree or disagree, and I especially look forward to your take on this proposition, @Adab 

Imagine waiting 12+ weeks from an official/gold supported club for a 1:30 vid, would you be happy? If anything it becomes an edit rather then parkour and still rewarded? 8 tricks is minimum and MOP vids tend to have ~6 tricks which isn't much more asking a club to create double of an MOP entry over the course of 3 months. So if anything, it's to motivate the idea for you to put more effort into your videos then minimal 8, which isn't asking much from a gold supported club tbh with so much resources just depends on leader. As well not like everyone is doing complicated bigger tricks these days lol.

[Devoid 2,601]

On 5/10/2024 at 10:46 PM, Darlin said:

Imagine waiting 12+ weeks from an official/gold supported club for a 1:30 vid, would you be happy? If anything it becomes an edit rather then parkour and still rewarded? 8 tricks is minimum and MOP vids tend to have ~6 tricks which isn't much more asking a club to create double of an MOP entry over the course of 3 months. So if anything, it's to motivate the idea for you to put more effort into your videos then minimal 8, which isn't asking much from a gold supported club tbh with so much resources just depends on leader. As well not like everyone is doing complicated bigger tricks these days lol.

Then maybe change both elements of the same rule - Have the time minimum go down (such as lowering it to 1:30), but have the number of required tricks go up (such as raising it to 12).

Or better yet, maybe both could be allowed, through changing the rule something that allows clubs to make their own decision on this matter. For example, change it from "Videos published by [Official or Supported] Clubs must be at least 2 minutes long and consist of at least 8 parkour tricks" to "Videos published by [Official or Supported] Clubs must either be at least 2 minutes long and consist of at least 8 parkour tricks OR must be at least 1 minute and 30 seconds long and consist of at least 12 parkour tricks"...Something like that.

[Adab 2,896]

On 4/24/2024 at 7:19 PM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

Lack of contests mainly and people make clubs now because they want special paint. If it was on me i wouldnt have special paints as main goal for players for their efforts, but rather something like i dont know, respect and interest from whole tnk community not only parkour players, developers push esports because it give them views but it honestly became really BORING, hovering hulls everywhere. I would want get respect and similar things that would make parkourists want to make better videos and inspire more players to do parkour. Its only unique thing this game have and developers dont seem to be aware of this. Instead they release in news some esports livestream not a lot care about if any, if they didnt give away promocodes literally none would watch it. 

I would do parkour for free just to entertain players, besides i want supplies in return obviously that i used for tricks.

Got it

Please note that not all Members of Supported Parkour Clubs and Official Parkour Clubs receive special paints. Only 14 Members of each Official Parkour Club can receive the Phoenix/Glide/Aero paint and only 18 Members of each Supported Parkour Club receive the Onyx paint. You can be a Member of a Supported Parkour Club or an Official Parkour Club and refuse to get any Program Paint and only receive supplies, this way you can do parkour for free just to entertain players and receive supplies in return that you used for tricks

[Adab 2,896]

On 5/11/2024 at 2:39 AM, Devoid said:

I personally feel that any instance within the Parkour Rules, Official Club Program guidelines, and Parkour Club Support Program guidelines in which it is detailed that parkour club videos to be at least 2 minutes long needs to be reworked/changed.

Similar to my previous post about not requiring videos to be in 60 FPS, I feel this new requirement similarly casts a boundary on the creativity of club editors. Some of such editors could have intentionally made a video shorter than 2 minutes as a stylistic choice, and I think they should be allowed to make that choice and still have their work recognized and rewarded by the Official Club Program and Club Support Program.

I understand that some people enjoy videos in which there is more content than just clips of tricks themselves (such as showing cinematics of setups, or of jumpers on buildings), but I personally think others/some of those same people can also enjoy videos that are much faster-paced (and likely, shorter in length) - just the same. I recognize that enjoyment across the board could be lost if videos get too short, but in defense, a) there is still a part of that same rule that requires at least 8 tricks to be presented, and b) I am not saying that the length requirement needs to be outright abolished necessarily, I just think it should be reduced (such as to 1:30).

 

I am eager to hear others' feedback however, whether you agree or disagree, and I especially look forward to your take on this proposition, @Adab 

Sure, I am fully open to new ideas and I am totally fine about changing and reworking things, but I wonder whether it is really worth giving, for example, 200K Crystals and 1750 supplies for a video that is 1 minute and 30 seconds long and has 8 tricks (because then, for example, an editor can get 200K Crystals or 1750 supplies simply for editing a 1 minute and 30 seconds long video, as editors don't even have to participate in tricks), do you have any strong arguments regarding this?

 

On 5/11/2024 at 6:58 AM, Devoid said:

Then maybe change both elements of the same rule - Have the time minimum go down (such as lowering it to 1:30), but have the number of required tricks go up (such as raising it to 12).

Or better yet, maybe both could be allowed, through changing the rule something that allows clubs to make their own decision on this matter. For example, change it from "Videos published by [Official or Supported] Clubs must be at least 2 minutes long and consist of at least 8 parkour tricks" to "Videos published by [Official or Supported] Clubs must either be at least 2 minutes long and consist of at least 8 parkour tricks OR must be at least 1 minute and 30 seconds long and consist of at least 12 parkour tricks"...Something like that.

I like the latter idea of allowing both through changing the rule to something that allows clubs to make their own decision on this matter that you explained above, it is a good approach, maybe I will implement it

[Apollo 127]

On 5/15/2024 at 7:58 AM, Adab said:

Sure, I am fully open to new ideas and I am totally fine about changing and reworking things, but I wonder whether it is really worth giving, for example, 200K Crystals and 1750 supplies for a video that is 1 minute and 30 seconds long and has 8 tricks (because then, for example, an editor can get 200K Crystals or 1750 supplies simply for editing a 1 minute and 30 seconds long video, as editors don't even have to participate in tricks), do you have any strong arguments regarding this?

 

I like the latter idea of allowing both through changing the rule to something that allows clubs to make their own decision on this matter that you explained above, it is a good approach, maybe I will implement it

I don't really comment here since my posts are removed. But I think, the rewards should be consistent otherwise you will bring more complicated matters. Spectators also do not parkour sometimes.

I think more supplies should be given, than 1750, but 2000. This encourages clubs to make better videos as they have supplies with. If the CM disagrees, you suggest the removal of the Double Damage aspect as this is useless most of the time and is barely used. Increase it to 2250 of 1,2,4,5 (Unsure if DD is given still). This is a 

Crystals should be given as a bonus, maybe if a video reaches 1000 views. 100,000 crystals is awarded to the club to split amongst the parkourists or editors or spectators if he feels so. If 2000 views, 200,000 crystals is awarded to the club**. This should be for the month of the release, it will encourage clubs to share their videos instead of relying on the game to share the videos. This is how the videos of old parkour reached loads of views, because of self promotion. FnF grew to stardom, not from the Game resources at all, the way they outreached was very good.

Now you are encouraging clubs to produce better tricks, by giving more supplies. You can review this yourself, or set up a panel of 3 admins/former parkourists (i.e Spy, emrakul, Marekos). If you feel clubs aren't living up to the standard needed for the tricks, you can reduce the supplies on an annual basis to quarterly basis. OR even increase the # supplies if you feel they are beating your expectations of quality. This can be applied to the crystal element too a quarterly to annually review, with an increase per view and distribution amongst players.

**Not sure if you provide 100,000 crystals per player. I think that's the wrong approach of encouragement, as it would then make clubs want to publish more content quickly rather than appropriately. Supplies should always be the main benefactor for parkour, since to get users to do the harder and harder tricks, they need way more supplies. I remember being in TFP back in 2013-6 and at times I had 0 supplies, idly helping often as a support for extra push (railgun at the back to not take damage etc) a very primitive way to efficiently conserve supplies. This also promotes a healthy club environment, as now, the parkourists want to impress their leader with their activity to get higher crystal rewards or the editor, will want to do a crazy edit for more reward. This is my opinion though, you can change the values as you see appropriate.

I think content every 1.5 months is a great way to produce videos, or every 2 months, given that MoP is a 1 month deadline. For the TOP clubs (clubs with Phoenix, Glide, Aero) should be able to deliver that for their respective communities. And this should be followed by all of the TOP clubs especially, as if one doesn't follow it, why should another TOP club do that? They absolutely should be treated the same way in my opinion.

 

These are just my ideas, you can use them or not to help you achieve your goals in a fairer and more competitive space. OFC, bottom line is, MoP will encourage more users to parkour. And make them animated paints, not this shenanigans of a stale paint. Don't let organisers take the paint, let the real winners of the MOP take the paint so when other users see this unique paint, they want to become a real parkourist. 

Even more so, I would join the communities. Have 1 set of judges, the EN CM, the RU CM, and the respective Parkour Managers or former parkour winners of MOP who actually achieved #1-3 and are administrators. Because these guys have less bias and have good competency, there's an incredible bias in the competitions as well, and a few official clubs complained last year which was ashame. I agreed with them but did not comment on that.

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

On 5/15/2024 at 12:45 PM, Lord said:

Crystals should be given as a bonus, maybe if a video reaches 1000 views. 100,000 crystals is awarded to the club to split amongst the parkourists or editors or spectators if he feels so. If 2000 views, 200,000 crystals is awarded to the club**. This should be for the month of the release, it will encourage clubs to share their videos instead of relying on the game to share the videos. This is how the videos of old parkour reached loads of views, because of self promotion. FnF grew to stardom, not from the Game resources at all, the way they outreached was very good.

I like this idea because it's an attempt to find a simple and direct measure of success (views after 1 month). I can imagine people disagreeing with this measure though, thinking that someone's videos are much better and deserve more views.

I measured the quality of videos by how I feel about the video, which was of course influenced by some factors that the current rules are trying to quantify (number of tricks, video length, etc.) and more (novelty, aesthetics, etc.). This is the most direct measure of success, the impression made on a trusted judge. I imagine that a group of trusted judges could do something similar these days too. Things like video duration and number of tricks were a recommendation from the judge (me), not a hard rule, clubs knew they could deviate from the recommendation when it makes sense.

btw this is the 1000th reply to this topic lol, do I get a prize? No?