Please do not ruin the forums

[SlLVER 12]

Heeeloo,

 

I recently have seen many people whining and crying about Drugs + Product kits + Micro upgrades, etc..

 

Let me ask you a question,

 

(If) you want to buy crystals, why would you do it?

Of course to get better equipment and more advantages in battles.

 

Oh, and some of you say Druggers have no skill, you're completely wrong,

 

They got skills more than you think, but they just want to enjoy the game.

Winning is everything, ask yourself, 'ohh I'm losing! I could do anything to win!!, oh god what can I do?'

 

For the ones whining about No supplies battle pass,

 

Its cost is not expensive at all, if you can't afford 5000, then the problem is in you,

Drugs cost crystals, No drugs also cost crystals.

 

Who also whine about buyers, isn't it enough that Tanki could be played for free!! They also are very strict about hackers,

If there's no buying in Tanki, you would pay to play the game.

 

Why didn't you just participate in the twitter contest with a Recuit/Private account and buy a product kit?

 

Whiners, your topics are just useless, you're flooding and ruining the forums.

 

Russian and German communities enjoy their game + forums more than the English one, because the English community has many people whining about updates, although they don't help in any way.

 

Whiners prejudge very much, with no exceptions.

 

You seen what happened at the first of Rebalance? Lots of people whined about it,

But after a while they knew they were wrong, Rebalance is just awesome, it made the game fully balanced.

 

If you think pre-rebalance was better, you're also wrong; you only think it's better because Tanki had less players + buyers at that time, if it had the same players and buyers at that time you would give up and quit.

 

Tanki is probably on the Saturation step, buyers make the company spend money on research + development and also advertising.

 

I think whiners should be banned when making a topic discussing developers' choices

 

Well, that's all I wanted to say, hope you whiners benefit from this topic :)

If you didn't read it because it's long, then keep on whining, you'll just waste your time instead of going to play and get enough for a product kit, but do not ruin our great forum!

 

If you have something that is worth whining about, tell me here ;)

 

Mod's do not close this topic so we English community at least benefit some of this topic.

 

Thank you

 

NFS_TankiOnline

[ChuckNorris2090 102]

Nicely put  :) ;)

May I add, you really don't need to buy crystals to be good or get good equipment. I was going to buy crystals, but I decided not to. Just focus on the game, and you'll get more crystals. 

Edited November 17, 2013 by ChuckNorris2090

[Piety 70]

That's above is out nicely and one hundred percent true....

 

But about the research bit.........

 

For some really strong yet unknown reason I got this slight feeling that tanki is going to do something to get the kit or items I buy with real money taken off me. Forgive me for sounding like a doomsayers or anything but tanki policy states that they can take information and items of garage without permission of the player and that's a law in tanki they have made

 

What do u Guys think

[Eragon 13,876]

I could buy crystals i would 

[h-14789 10]

good lesson bro 

[CooperO 7,956]

You seen what happened at the first of Rebalance? Lots of people whined about it,

But after a while they knew they were wrong, Rebalance is just awesome, it made the game fully balanced.

No. It wasn't fully balanced at all. Otherwise they wouldn't need to balance things over again now.

 

 

If you think pre-rebalance was better, you're also wrong; you only think it's better because Tanki had less players + buyers at that time, if it had the same players and buyers at that time you would give up and quit.

No, many many buyers back then too and I think the difference between buyers and non buyers was bigger back then too. Yet I actually think it was better before the rebalance, but that might have something to do with the fact that everything was new to me, loads of things to discover, saving up for my first M3 combo etc. 

[SlLVER 12]

No. It wasn't fully balanced at all. Otherwise they wouldn't need to balance things over again now.

 

 

 

No, many many buyers back then too and I think the difference between buyers and non buyers was bigger back then too. Yet I actually think it was better before the rebalance, but that might have something to do with the fact that everything was new to me, loads of things to discover, saving up for my first M3 combo etc.

 

You're mistaking,

Buyers were not buying a lot like now, modifications were cheaper, buyers were not that much before rebalance, i barely found buyers before the rebalance, as for the balancing,

They're doing another rebalance because the tanks and weapons would be overpowered and hulls would also be with Micro upgrades, or else they would have done the balancing months ago,

They announced Micro before New physics, and found that the things that are going to be rebalanced are too strong when Micro Upgraded :rolleyes:

[michael20028 7]

 

You seen what happened at the first of Rebalance? Lots of people whined about it,

But after a while they knew they were wrong, Rebalance is just awesome, it made the game fully balanced.

 

If you think pre-rebalance was better, you're also wrong; you only think it's better because Tanki had less players + buyers at that time, if it had the same players and buyers at that time you would give up and quit.

 I loved re-balance in one thing. That in pre-rebalance a WO4 could've got a Viking/Thunder M3/M3 with Python and with lots of drugs. Now a WO4 after re-balance can only get a Viking/Thunder M1/M1 with Jaguar. I'm so happy. :rolleyes: 

 

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Heeeloo,

 

I recently have seen many people whining and crying about Drugs + Product kits + Micro upgrades, etc..

 

Let me ask you a question,

 

1)(If) you want to buy crystals, why would you do it?

Of course to get better equipment and more advantages in battles.

 

2)Oh, and some of you say Druggers have no skill, you're completely wrong,

 

They got skills more than you think, but they just want to enjoy the game.

Winning is everything, ask yourself, 'ohh I'm losing! I could do anything to win!!, oh god what can I do?'

 

3)For the ones whining about No supplies battle pass,

 

Its cost is not expensive at all, if you can't afford 5000, then the problem is in you,

Drugs cost crystals, No drugs also cost crystals.

 

4)Who also whine about buyers, isn't it enough that Tanki could be played for free!! They also are very strict about hackers,

If there's no buying in Tanki, you would pay to play the game.

 

5)Why didn't you just participate in the twitter contest with a Recuit/Private account and buy a product kit?

 

6)Whiners, your topics are just useless, you're flooding and ruining the forums.

 

 

 

7)Whiners prejudge very much, with no exceptions.

 

8)You seen what happened at the first of Rebalance? Lots of people whined about it,

But after a while they knew they were wrong, Rebalance is just awesome, it made the game fully balanced.

 

9)If you think pre-rebalance was better, you're also wrong; you only think it's better because Tanki had less players + buyers at that time, if it had the same players and buyers at that time you would give up and quit.

 

 

10)I think whiners should be banned when making a topic discussing developers' choices

 

 

1: I completely agree that Buyers should maintain an edge. However, the edge that they gain from these Kits is far too great. Especially when combined with the new MU's, there will be M0/M1 people versing M2+. Not to mention endless drugs. There should be some boundary instead of making Non-buyers just something to shoot at. Games are supposed to be fun, for everyone, not just buyers.

 

2: Hehehehehehe. Have you seen those druggers? They may maintain some skills when not drugging, but when they're drugging, they've no brains. They automatically think they're invincible and always go upfront even with other druggers not knowing that Drugs cancel each other out, and that they could've drove the other way and eluded damage. Well at least that's the majority of the druggers I face. No brains, and clumsy.  They finally choose another path after their 10th death from Mines. Hahaha.  Although you're right there are skilled druggers, but that's rare (at least for me).

 

3: Ok see, 5000 Crystals is a lot for the beginning ranks. You cannot earn 5000 Crystals easy like a person at higher ranks can. They should make the price for those passes vary for different ranks.

 

5000 crystals may be accumulated easily by a High rank, and be earned back easily in a week.

 

However, 5000 Crystals is too much for a low Warrant Officer to spend. He/she has a harder time earning the amount back. And how about for the even lower ranks? And furthermore, what if you don't play everyday? There are some people that play only a few times a week.

 

In addition to that, whence you spend your crystals, your in-game currency is down by 5,000. So you must earn back that 5,000, right? Well what if there is a sale shortly after, and you are short a couple thousand crystals? If you did not buy that 5,000 Crystal pass, then you'd have enough to buy what you've wanted. Remember, Sales here don't last that long. . . and the warnings are short.

 

It's Risky!

 

4: As important as it is for Buyers to be acknowledged, Non-buyers should be acknowledged too. Now before you say ''just go play another game,'' think about it. What if every Non-buyer just really left the game? This game would be inevitably screwed. And if there are no Non-buyers in this game- which makes up most of the community, then what would become of the Buyers? There would be no purpose in buying, as there would be nobody to gain an edge over.

 

5: Because kits cost more than 20,000.

 

6: Not necessarily. It can lead to discussions which may help change the OP's view in the update.

 

7: Wrong. Remember, people have their own opinions. Some just stand-bye their beliefs and you should respect that.

 

8. They did not think they were wrong. They only stopped because it is old-news now and they know that Tanki won't undo it. And before you say, Tanki won't undo MU's and all, remember that without all the complaining and whining about the Gambling, then the risk of not getting an MU would still be present.  In addition to that, The Re-balance did not balance the game. The new Physics update proved that.

 

9: As previously stated, everyone has their own diverse opinions and you should respect them for standing by them.

 

10: They have the same right as you do to express their opinions about something.

Edited November 18, 2013 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[LaserShark 2,095]

NFS_TankiOnline I would like to very much disagree with you, the drugging has gotten so annoying I don't really even play Tanki anymore. Having the entire success of your team dependent on who has more druggers completely takes the fun out of the game, the no supplies battle pass costs too much, and even if it didn't, there aren't enough no supplies battles.

[LiquidGold 1,370]

I have been in many battles where you are completely thrashing the opposition when nobody is using drugs, then they choose to drug and start to win, this does show a lack of skill. I pick my battles when to drug and not to drug if the game economics show its worth using many drugs to win or even loose then its worth doing.

I have seen many people drug when the battle fund is low even at 200 fund, its a bit silly.

Having said that I have won many many battles using only saved up daily bonuses. There is an argument for both.

As a foot note thank you to all the buyers who keep this game running.

[Repair-Kit 80]

Heeeloo,

 

whining

whining

whine

Whiners,

whining

Whiners

whined

whiners

whiners

whining

whining

 

NFS_TankiOnline

 

There is a difference between venting one's frustration with whining. You yourself could be accused of whining but you're entitled to whine if that's what you want to do. If players want to vent their frustrations over the current format then you should have some degree of respect and you should let them. Calling for bans for making criticisms of the game is going a bit far don't you think.

 

Supplies and product kits are now an integral part of the game and business and I believe they can ruin games when you find yourself unable to compete against opposition many times more powerful than you. Sure, buyers should have an advantage over non-buyers but don't you think skill should be rewarded over brute force. I've always believed that there should be some link between a players strength and the experience points they receive for kills.

 

m1/m1 destroys m2/m2 gets the same amount of exp pts as the other way around.

 

Why?

 

Even worse,

m2/m2 using supplies destroys m1/m1 not using supplies gets 10 exp pts

 

What I'm advocating is a change in the amount of experience points awarded to a player that is dependent on how strong they are at the time of a kill and the strength of the opposition they destroy.

Think about it. It is the way to go and Tanki are missing a trick here if they don't persue it. It would be a solution that not only addresses the problem but also preserves balance.

[SlLVER 12]

 

1: I completely agree that Buyers should maintain an edge. However, the edge that they gain from these Kits is far too great. Especially when combined with the new MU's, there will be M0/M1 people versing M2+. Not to mention endless drugs. There should be some boundary instead of making Non-buyers just something to shoot at. Games are supposed to be fun, for everyone, not just buyers.

 

2: Hehehehehehe. Have you seen those druggers? They may maintain some skills when not drugging, but when they're drugging, they've no brains. They automatically think they're invincible and always go upfront even with other druggers not knowing that Drugs cancel each other out, and that they could've drove the other way and eluded damage. Well at least that's the majority of the druggers I face. No brains, and clumsy.  They finally choose another path after their 10th death from Mines. Hahaha.  Although you're right there are skilled druggers, but that's rare (at least for me).

 

3: Ok see, 5000 Crystals is a lot for the beginning ranks. You cannot earn 5000 Crystals easy like a person at higher ranks can. They should make the price for those passes vary for different ranks.

 

5000 crystals may be accumulated easily by a High rank, and be earned back easily in a week.

 

However, 5000 Crystals is too much for a low Warrant Officer to spend. He/she has a harder time earning the amount back. And how about for the even lower ranks? And furthermore, what if you don't play everyday? There are some people that play only a few times a week.

 

In addition to that, whence you spend your crystals, your in-game currency is down by 5,000. So you must earn back that 5,000, right? Well what if there is a sale shortly after, and you are short a couple thousand crystals? If you did not buy that 5,000 Crystal pass, then you'd have enough to buy what you've wanted. Remember, Sales here don't last that long. . . and the warnings are short.

 

It's Risky!

 

4: As important as it is for Buyers to be acknowledged, Non-buyers should be acknowledged too. Now before you say ''just go play another game,'' think about it. What if every Non-buyer just really left the game? This game would be inevitably screwed. And if there are no Non-buyers in this game- which makes up most of the community, then what would become of the Buyers? There would be no purpose in buying, as there would be nobody to gain an edge over.

 

5: Because kits cost more than 20,000.

 

6: Not necessarily. It can lead to discussions which may help change the OP's view in the update.

 

7: Wrong. Remember, people have their own opinions. Some just stand-bye their beliefs and you should respect that.

 

8. They did not think they were wrong. They only stopped because it is old-news now and they know that Tanki won't undo it. And before you say, Tanki won't undo MU's and all, remember that without all the complaining and whining about the Gambling, then the risk of not getting an MU would still be present.  In addition to that, The Re-balance did not balance the game. The new Physics update proved that.

 

9: As previously stated, everyone has their own diverse opinions and you should respect them for standing by them.

 

10: They have the same right as you do to express their opinions about something.

 

Thank you for your aruguing + giving your point.

However, lots of it is incorrect,

1 - Tanki is already fun, you can't be something to shoot at because the percentage of non-buyers is most likely less than the buyers.

2 - In your view you find most druggers have no skill, but believe me, there is many.

3- Yes it is hard to earn 5000, but it is also hard to earn enough crystals for many drugs, 5000 is just too cheaper and the team with better equipments win.

4- I would never say 'go play another game' and I have never did,

Surviving against buyers is not that tough.

5-You get 20 000 if you participated in the Twitter contest already -_-

6- Whining do not help, only complains and votes in the right topic could help, whining topics will end being LOCKED and the dev's would not see it.

7- I know right, but not on the wrong sections and topics.

8- Yes it did balance the game, New physics did not prove it because New Physics were made to balance the game AFTER implementing Micros, so people do not complain because they can't afford a Micro Upgraded weapon.

9- As said before in 6

10- Yes, but it is just time consuming and a waste

[Playep 355]

Heeeloo,

 

I recently have seen many people whining and crying about Drugs + Product kits + Micro upgrades, etc..

 

Let me ask you a question,

 

...

If you have something that is worth whining about, tell me here ;)

 

Mod's do not close this topic so we English community at least benefit some of this topic.

 

Thank you

 

NFS_TankiOnline

Does that mean you're a buyer too? :mellow:

[r_D0m10 16]

the reason we are whining about the updates is because we like things the way they are

simple really why change a perfectly well created game.

[michael20028 7]

NFS_TankiOnline. Did you notice you are being a "whiner" creating this topic I mean. Most people whine about buyers. But you are whinning about non-buyers who are whinning about buyers. Means you are whinning about whinners. Don't even whine about it. I didn't write that for fun or to get you lost. I wrote it because I see full logic in it.

[Eragon 13,876]

NFS_TankiOnline. Did you notice you are being a "whiner" creating this topic I mean. Most people whine about buyers. But you are whinning about non-buyers who are whinning about buyers. Means you are whinning about whinners. Don't even whine about it. I didn't write that for fun or to get you lost. I wrote it because I see full logic in it.

I got lost somewhere in you whines  :wacko:  :blink:

[Regreted 52]

Kfoo english bro NFS 

[SlLVER 12]

NFS 

ok bro

[Reeco9 1,567]

Errm, are you whining about people whining? :P Anyway, I agree with most of these points, however I think the large non-buyer population should be respected more, and given a chance against buyers. Although I agree that Tanki Online needs to earn money to be able to maintain and improve the game, it also needs to be understood that without the non-buyers, Tanki would not exist, and if it did the amount of players would be a lot lower than it currently is.

[Silver-7 10]

So yours whining about non buyers? Confused.

[Farhan55 82]

Nicely put  :) ;)

May I add, you really don't need to buy crystals to be good or get good equipment. I was going to buy crystals, but I decided not to. Just focus on the game, and you'll get more crystals. 

Exactly. You dont need to buy crystal to be skillful player. I have seen WO2 with hornet m0 + isida M1 having on the top of the battle with lieutenants. He/She didn't even heal anyone just played seriously and skillfully. All you need is practice to play skillfully. And about rebalance i think it made the racism out between 1st class(smokey,firebird,twin,titan,hunter,wasp,etc) and 2nd class(thunder,hornet,Freeze,Mammoth,etc) hull/gun. Now all hull/gun can be used at all ranks. :)

[ziaayadad 26]

Think about it, would a drugger complain about kits and drugs. Would a no supply pass buyer even think about being faced with a drugger. Answer is no.

 

If you hate druggers ( such as me :ph34r: ) then get a no supply, if you wana ( try to ) kill druggers then go buy some drugs.