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Quote by Therussian: "Life's a pay 2 win game. But in Tanki, paying isn;t necessarily winning. That one I can tell yuo as a guy with nothing else to buy."

 

This is partly true, partly false. What he said about life is true, but what he said about TO is false. You see, Recently I've played No-supplie battle (because I received No-supplies battle pass today as a daily gift) and I saw the change an my D/L was solid as 3.00 even with only crappy Thunder M3 and Hornet M3 against many Gens and Marshals, which had protections from Thunder, even Emerald paints. You see, the point of the game is to pay to play. Reasons for that are:

 

Whether you play a supplie game and don't drug or use the supplies you receive as daily gift, or PAY for drugs.

Whether you play a skill game (with some upgrades, that might be under powered or OP, depending on the rank) with receiving No-supplies battle pass or PAY for joining the battle or PAY for the no-supplies battle pass.

 

You see, the way the game is, is that you don't buy drugs or supplie battle passes and still play in a supplie battle battle where you're gonna get killed in matter of seconds and receive nothing and it'll take so long for you to reach top rank and M3s, that you'll be FORCED to purchase crystals, if you want to have a better gameplay.

 

So without buying crystals, this excludes:

 

* Any good protection paint (For M3s)

* Any purchase of supplies

* Any No-supplies battle passes

* Any Micro-upgrades (In future, probably)

 

It is not fair against the non-buyers and all players have the right to be non-buyers. I, my self am a buyer, but still it isn't fair. People just keep on complaining, not because of their low skill, but because of their bad reward for playing.

 

There is only one way for a non-buyer to get out of this mess; collect daily gifts every day and not play the game for a month or so, and then play for a week or so and then keep this system going, but that's not fair.

 

If the fund was still 100%, may be then there'd be difference. I know this has been discussed before and the topic is locked (The one I found in the search), but think about it. No offence, but Admins will do anything to encourage us to buy or rather force us. There just isn't choice. This is the reason, why I don't play tanki much as it all depends on your money and supplies. In supplie battles, you'll probably see a lot of heavy hulls drugging; nobody likes that, thought I don't understand why people chose Viking before rebalance and now chooses mammoth instead (mostly).

 

My point is, that there must be a change and if this carries on, well probably one day tanki will go dead, and I know nobody here wants that, and neither don't I, but there are just so many problems such as Pay or Pay system, OP weaponry for higher ranks (I think they should've invested MUs when they released Rebalance), bad graphics for such an expensive game.

 

This is a message specifically for the top staff aka moderators, administrators. If you need any proof, I'll gather them!

 

In Tanki #Paying is winning

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Whether you're a buyer or not; you are not going to get anywhere without the proper skills.

 

Picking the right maps, picking the right combination for those maps are the key to succes.

It's not all about paying. And there is a choice... there is one. You're not obligated to buy.

 

On the other hand, this game couldn't afford the servers without these buyers, thus the game wouldn't excist without these buyers.

Non-buyers are definitely not underpowered... not playing for a month and just collecting daily bonuses is a bit far fetched.

 

Sure they have less 'freedom' when it comes to garage, but that doesn't mean it's that worse that you'll need to log in for a month, just collecting daily bonuses.

Ohh and come on, 5K for a no supplies battle pass for a month isn't expensive at all. ^_^

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Splitter I agree woth zevsx on the graphics part, it's not very good for an expensive game.

 

And I'm a buyer and it does become hard for me becuase all drug less noobs leaving making me face tougher opponents

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Whether you're a buyer or not; you are not going to get anywhere without the proper skills.

 

Picking the right maps, picking the right combination for those maps are the key to succes.

It's not all about paying. And there is a choice... there is one. You're not obligated to buy.

 

On the other hand, this game couldn't afford the servers without these buyers, thus the game wouldn't excist without these buyers.

Non-buyers are definitely not underpowered... not playing for a month and just collecting daily bonuses is a bit far fetched.

 

Sure they have less 'freedom' when it comes to garage, but that doesn't mean it's that worse that you'll need to log in for a month, just collecting daily bonuses.

Ohh and come on, 5K for a no supplies battle pass for a month isn't expensive at all. ^_^

Yeah, totally agree. I'm not a buyer and I feel I'm doing fairly well. As splitter said, you need the proper skill.

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this is totally fair, think about it, non-buyers( like me) get an amazing game for free, while buyers(like the ones i refer) get a slightly better gameplay for a small price. This is fair.

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I wonder now. I can't remember the reason why I even made thia topics, but the thing is I don't like to drug anymore. I like to play non-drug but for that you have to pay either way and I'm not sure whether buying no-supplies battle pass every month without buying any crystals, yet getting a good paint, weapon M3 anda hull M3 is possible. It'd take ages to witness so tell me, would it?

 

And this is not necroposting. I heard of a staff member that if you post in an old topic something with a good reason it's no necroposting. Besides, this topic isn't all that old.

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Buying isn't the only option to get crystals and get better hulls, weapons and paints. You can play battles, and if you have an hour or so to play, join a big battle, but make sure the leader has a score you'll be able to catch up to and that the teams winning! You can also catch the occasional gold box, which has been increased to 2014 crystals, to celebrate 2014. You can also refer friends, and for every rank they reach you get crystals. Also if they buy crystals, you get 10%. Which is pretty cool, for example your friend buys 100 000 crystals for example, i don't know, m1 product kit (as example) you will get 10 000 crystals. Neat!

 

hope this helped.

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Yeah, totally agree. I'Marshall?buyer and I feel I'm doing fairly well. As splitter said, you need the proper skill.

Obviously you guys haven't played with a tank with prodigi and emerald in the opposite team. No amount of rail shots cant destroy a drugging viking m2 with prodigi. Let me give you an example - I stupidly entered a no time limit 20 flag silence match with m2 fire hornet combo. We were leading comfortabely 6-2. Most of the opposition left. A group of well organized buyers joined the other side. They drugged . I always save drugs for situations like these. I drugged back , score went on to 10-13. We were losing badly. Then I started a wave of flag capturing and the score tied to 15-15. Then 2 medium m2 product kit buyers turned up and we lost. No one in the opposite team as well as my team had more score than me. Mine was way more than theirs , but then also we lost. In the end I ended up wasting all my drugs and got only 600 crystals reward to show up for it.

 

Now tell me how is it fair that people with major account get access to paints unlocked at marshall?

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^^ create another account and get m2 heavy and medium kits and drug against noobs, very fun ;)

I have alot of fun pwning everyone with m1 mammoth, m1 twins and drugs against sergeants

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^^ create another account and get m2 heavy and medium kits and drug against noobs, very fun ;)

I have alot of fun pwning everyone with m1 mammoth, m1 twins and drugs against sergeants

Product kits changed now! And I don't think I'll buy ever.

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Quote by Therussian: "Life's a pay 2 win game. But in Tanki, paying isn;t necessarily winning. That one I can tell yuo as a guy with nothing else to buy."

 

This is partly true, partly false. What he said about life is true, but what he said about TO is false. You see, Recently I've played No-supplie battle (because I received No-supplies battle pass today as a daily gift) and I saw the change an my D/L was solid as 3.00 even with only crappy Thunder M3 and Hornet M3 against many Gens and Marshals, which had protections from Thunder, even Emerald paints. You see, the point of the game is to pay to play. Reasons for that are:

 

Whether you play a supplie game and don't drug or use the supplies you receive as daily gift, or PAY for drugs.

Whether you play a skill game (with some upgrades, that might be under powered or OP, depending on the rank) with receiving No-supplies battle pass or PAY for joining the battle or PAY for the no-supplies battle pass.

 

You see, the way the game is, is that you don't buy drugs or supplie battle passes and still play in a supplie battle battle where you're gonna get killed in matter of seconds and receive nothing and it'll take so long for you to reach top rank and M3s, that you'll be FORCED to purchase crystals, if you want to have a better gameplay.

 

So without buying crystals, this excludes:

 

* Any good protection paint (For M3s)

* Any purchase of supplies

* Any No-supplies battle passes

* Any Micro-upgrades (In future, probably)

 

It is not fair against the non-buyers and all players have the right to be non-buyers. I, my self am a buyer, but still it isn't fair. People just keep on complaining, not because of their low skill, but because of their bad reward for playing.

 

There is only one way for a non-buyer to get out of this mess; collect daily gifts every day and not play the game for a month or so, and then play for a week or so and then keep this system going, but that's not fair.

 

If the fund was still 100%, may be then there'd be difference. I know this has been discussed before and the topic is locked (The one I found in the search), but think about it. No offence, but Admins will do anything to encourage us to buy or rather force us. There just isn't choice. This is the reason, why I don't play tanki much as it all depends on your money and supplies. In supplie battles, you'll probably see a lot of heavy hulls drugging; nobody likes that, thought I don't understand why people chose Viking before rebalance and now chooses mammoth instead (mostly).

 

My point is, that there must be a change and if this carries on, well probably one day tanki will go dead, and I know nobody here wants that, and neither don't I, but there are just so many problems such as Pay or Pay system, OP weaponry for higher ranks (I think they should've invested MUs when they released Rebalance), bad graphics for such an expensive game.

 

This is a message specifically for the top staff aka moderators, administrators. If you need any proof, I'll gather them!

 

In Tanki #Paying is winning

Tanki Online has buyers that's true. But without them, what will happen to tanki?

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Tanki Online has buyers that's true. But without them, what will happen to tanki?

It wouldn't exist

btw I am a buyer, but I never buy drugs, kits, or NSB passes. On occasion I will will buy a SMP, and MU's when I can. All I buy is enough so that I can get what I want and that is it. Right now I have everything I want, excluding paints, and I am happy with what I have. Sure I may be OP with my MU's, but I am still a player.

The peope to be mad at in this game are the drug buyers/users, cheaters (includes hackers), and Product Kit Buyers. Sure they help support Tanki, but they have a much larger advantage over us.

Thank you guya for your consideration.

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Obviously you guys haven't played with a tank with prodigi and emerald in the opposite team. No amount of rail shots cant destroy a drugging viking m2 with prodigi. Let me give you an example - I stupidly entered a no time limit 20 flag silence match with m2 fire hornet combo. We were leading comfortabely 6-2. Most of the opposition left. A group of well organized buyers joined the other side. They drugged . I always save drugs for situations like these. I drugged back , score went on to 10-13. We were losing badly. Then I started a wave of flag capturing and the score tied to 15-15. Then 2 medium m2 product kit buyers turned up and we lost. No one in the opposite team as well as my team had more score than me. Mine was way more than theirs , but then also we lost. In the end I ended up wasting all my drugs and got only 600 crystals reward to show up for it.

 

Now tell me how is it fair that people with major account get access to paints unlocked at marshall?

Yes, you're right, I haven't played anyone w/ prodigi, but I can imagine it. Honestly, it isn't fair at all. That's why I feel like Tanki isn't a good game. I spend almost 10 minutes trying to find a good battle. 

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Whether you're a buyer or not; you are not going to get anywhere without the proper skills.

 

Picking the right maps, picking the right combination for those maps are the key to succes.

It's not all about paying. And there is a choice... there is one. You're not obligated to buy.

 

On the other hand, this game couldn't afford the servers without these buyers, thus the game wouldn't excist without these buyers.

Non-buyers are definitely not underpowered... not playing for a month and just collecting daily bonuses is a bit far fetched.

 

Sure they have less 'freedom' when it comes to garage, but that doesn't mean it's that worse that you'll need to log in for a month, just collecting daily bonuses.

Ohh and come on, 5K for a no supplies battle pass for a month isn't expensive at all. ^_^

I agreee, i mean that jus work and save man!

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