Do you believe in evolution?

[already.dead 360]

well which is wrong because they are things way older than 6000 years and evidence of humans longer than 6000 years, please explain how all those bones of animals were discovered how can we even live next to them without evolution and extinction happening? 6000 years ago people lived with dinosaurs and mammoths? also in bible how can adam and eve lead to well today? we would all be well identical because they should be no variation and have asexual reproduction right skittles?

1. The datings methods are innacurate and cannot be trusted

2. Have u even read the Bible?, Noahs flood is the perfect source for all the fossils, providing quick burial of mass amounts of animals etc. And yes dinosaurs and mammoths could easily have lived 6k years ago. Mammoths and Dinosaurs might be alive today! Or atleast were alive not long ago.

3. They were thrown out of the Garden, and the earth was cursed, and stuff came in, thus bringing mutations and stuff. Also he separated the people at Babel, and different people and nations came

[Psycho 586]

1. The datings methods are innacurate and cannot be trusted

2. Have u even read the Bible?, Noahs flood is the perfect source for all the fossils, providing quick burial of mass amounts of animals etc. And yes dinosaurs and mammoths could easily have lived 6k years ago. Mammoths and Dinosaurs might be alive today! Or atleast were alive not long ago.

3. They were thrown out of the Garden, and the earth was cursed, and stuff came in, thus bringing mutations and stuff. Also he separated the people at Babel, and different people and nations came

firstly, these animals would never have lived, animals mentioned in the bible were recent lastly dating method can be trusted.

 

and another thing if we are all the same then why do we always view ourselves as different?

[kingeoin14 30]

1. The datings methods are innacurate and cannot be trusted

2. Have u even read the Bible?, Noahs flood is the perfect source for all the fossils, providing quick burial of mass amounts of animals etc. And yes dinosaurs and mammoths could easily have lived 6k years ago. Mammoths and Dinosaurs might be alive today! Or atleast were alive not long ago.

3. They were thrown out of the Garden, and the earth was cursed, and stuff came in, thus bringing mutations and stuff. Also he separated the people at Babel, and different people and nations came

Carbon dating is inaccurate, that's why better methods are used for dating. Typical creationist argument, easily put down.

[navi613 73]

I don't really believe in evolution as there is no actual scientific evidence to prove that the theory of evolution is definitely true.

[already.dead 360]

firstly, these animals would never have lived, animals mentioned in the bible were recent lastly dating method can be trusted.

 

and another thing if we are all the same then why do we always view ourselves as different?

why are we all the same?

and why couldnt dinosaurs have lived according to the bible? the mammoths would have thrived during the Ice Age, and maybe they still live in isolated places where there is cold year round

[kingeoin14 30]

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Edited November 30, 2013 by Irontank1v

[Psycho 586]

dinosaurs are cold blooded they is no way they would be able to co exisist, and mammoths could not have survived during the time dinosaurs lived they didn't just appear, and why aren't they on all the continents, i mean some have barely any, why would this happen if evolution did not exist!

[already.dead 360]

Why coulnd't cold blooded co-exist? its was much warmer back then too. also MICRO-evolution is also possible. why would they be on all the continets? most creatures are only on some continents..

[Psycho 586]

Why coulnd't cold blooded co-exist? its was much warmer back then too. also MICRO-evolution is also possible. why would they be on all the continets? most creatures are only on some continents..

 

 

so you agree evolution is real?

i mean the facts are there, it explains everything while religion says other, why would god make us have cancer and die in bad ways so we can be with him? doesn't sound like a nice thing

[GoldRock 6,165]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8030672/US-atheists-know-more-about-religion-than-believers-quiz-finds.html

Interesting article - thanks for sharing that with me, it makes some good points ^_^

 

in hebrew (which it was originally written) the word they use for day there usually means 24 hours. it also says evening and morning came.

Exodus 20:11 ¹¹ For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

 

and after those seven days there was around 6k years (all the people ages etc. events are listed and add up to around 6k years) so i believe the world is around 6 thousand years old only

Hmm... Though science would say otherwise on the matter, that's certainly a more realistic interpretation of Genesis. Thanks for answering!

 

Wikipedia has'nt been an un biased source for a long time!

It is generally an unbiased source - having previously worked with the Wikipedia community for some time, there are definitely decent standards in place for such matters, for remaining neutral is a key focal point for the encyclopaedia. In any case, that particular article is largely unbiased.

 

I don't really believe in evolution as there is no actual scientific evidence to prove that the theory of evolution is definitely true.

There is a huge amount of evidence to support the theory. Of course, no scientific theories are definitely true, but this particular one is generally accepted as scientifically accurate. I can dig some evidence up from the deepest darkest realms of the Internet, if you wish :P

 

1. The datings methods are innacurate and cannot be trusted

2. Have u even read the Bible?, Noahs flood is the perfect source for all the fossils, providing quick burial of mass amounts of animals etc. And yes dinosaurs and mammoths could easily have lived 6k years ago. Mammoths and Dinosaurs might be alive today! Or atleast were alive not long ago.

3. They were thrown out of the Garden, and the earth was cursed, and stuff came in, thus bringing mutations and stuff. Also he separated the people at Babel, and different people and nations came

1. The dating methods are inacurrate, yes, but are generally in the right region of time. If dating methods say something came from millions of years ago, our methods are accurate enough to know this is correct. As for how many millions of years, that'd be less accurate. However, if carbon dating was so inaccurate, then why do scientists use it? The answer is that it's at least fairly accurate in giving a unit of measurement (thousands, millions) in terms of age.

2. Yes, in part, and I plan to read it from cover to cover in the near future. And the suggestion that dinosaurs and mammoths might be alive today, or might have been alive a few thousand years ago, unfortunately lacks evidence. Feel free to link me to any studies/reports which agree that could be the case. The Bible itself can be interpreted differently - I know many Christians who believe the 6 days of creation refer to periods of millions of years, including my Religion and Philosophy teacher.

3. Interesting concepts, though purely religious. Good to hear about your beliefs :)

Edited November 28, 2013 by GoldRock

[r_felipe050 1]

What happened to Offtopic section :mellow:

[smashman777 104]

Well everyhting evolves as a christian i believe this world isn't millions of years old only a few thousand but even a small change in Food, body structure, and intelligence would actually take millions of years to take place.Example we have a appendix don't we? Scientist believe that couldve been a second stomach to us. since we had little knowledge about germs and bacteria the appendix would actually filter out little stones and dirt. But look we are now used to have our meal sealed in a can, Aware of bacteria-We take proper showers and wash hands, so eventually it shrinked to a very small size since there is no use. Just remarkable how animals look and react similar dont need to come up with amusing stories or superstions. Soo what the other apes where sadly left behind to have low intelligence? i dont think so

[Psycho 586]

evolution is real, it is in my opinion the only way to explain how we are here! 

 

if god did create man then please explain how does this lord of ours exist i mean he can't have just appeared from nothing?

not trying to start a debate on religion but 

 

obviously he can't have just decided hey let me create man, they is little purpose of us here, we eat breathe then die, and we are forgotten, and we have like 100+ religions and believes and all say they are pretty real.

 

i believe i come from ape and became man! why do holy man sin more compared to unholy ? why go to war in the name of religion why can't the lord him self do it rather than dying needlessly in the hands of mad men.

[smashman777 104]

@already.dead Dont worry when The rapture begins they'll see what were talking about ;)

[Psycho 586]

Well everyhting evolves as a christian i believe this world isn't millions of years old only a few thousand but even a small change in Food, body structure, and intelligence would actually take millions of years to take place.Example we have a appendix don't we? Scientist believe that couldve been a second stomach to us. since we had little knowledge about germs and bacteria the appendix would actually filter out little stones and dirt. But look we are now used to have our meal sealed in a can, Aware of bacteria-We take proper showers and wash hands, so eventually it shrinked to a very small size since there is no use. Just remarkable how animals look and react similar dont need to come up with amusing stories or superstions. Soo what the other apes where sadly left behind to have low intelligence? i dont think so

we changed because of natural selection the apes that walked survived better than the ones in trees, we ate more meat making our brains bigger because of more protein, we changed it many different shapes and sizes, but look at the lion its hair matches the grass so it can hide better it took year if it suddenly became muddy it would be brown if its cold and snowy a white fur coat, believe it or not chimps have a higher Intelligence than some average people, if i put you in the wilds of africa you would die because you now only drink tap water and don't use muscles you were given and brains will shrink because why? well i don't need to hunt or see at night anymore or go anywhere all i need to do is remember and i pass then forget.

[already.dead 360]

Those who go to war in the name of religion misuse it >_> saying its religous etc so they could get away with it in the old days

[Psycho 586]

Those who go to war in the name of religion misuse it >_> saying its religous etc so they could get away with it in the old days

they do don't they still?

 

already.dead evolution is as real as religion they are two things that we will not agree on in a long time.

i am a Roman catholic yet i feel religion has lost its purpose and that evolution is as real as more evidence is found therefore i believe that we are here because well we were born by mom and dad and that is why we exsist.

[GoldRock 6,165]

@already.dead Dont worry when The rapture begins they'll see what were talking about ;)

Please avoid being patronising :mellow: I know atheists such as myself are 'less-enlightened' than you or whatever, but no need to rub it in.

Edited November 28, 2013 by GoldRock

[JonathanBernatowicz 119]

Hmm... Though science would say otherwise on the matter, that's certainly a more realistic interpretation of Genesis. Thanks for answering!

Let me tell you what science says---GOD'S CREATION-- written all over it. The great I AM created science, and can conquer it as well. So the fact that "science would say otherwise on the matter" is true, but irrelevant since I AM is above science and the nature of it.

 

It is generally an unbiased source - having previously worked with the Wikipedia community for some time, there are definitely decent standards in place for such matters, for remaining neutral is a key focal point for the encyclopaedia. In any case, that particular article is largely unbiased.

Cool story (not saying it's false)

However, almost everyone regarding religion is biased. At youth, they go for whichever theory that empowers them the most. Whether it's parent, teacher, mentor, etc., that's the theory that will lead them. Most of the sources that are unbiased consist of people that are not passionate about the subject thus not even wanting to write a book, article, or maybe even speak about it. If they ever get passionate and want to do research, chances are they'll go to whatever article or book they read first or whoever they hear from first. The rest of the people are people who do much research on the subject and go one way or the other.

 

There is a huge amount of evidence to support the theory. Of course, no scientific theories are definitely true, but this particular one is generally accepted as scientifically accurate. I can dig some evidence up from the deepest darkest realms of the Internet, if you wish :P

There is also huge amount of evidence to disprove the theory ;) Creation aka Catastrophist theory is also accepted as scientifically and spiritually accurate :)

if God did create man then please explain how does this Lord of ours exist i mean He can't have just appeared from nothing?

 

Oh, he can't? You sure? If he's truly a "God", one that can conquer anything, including eternity, why can he not be eternal? Meaning, he's always been here. There's never been a "beginning" and there will never be an "end" to him. Our minds cannot comprehend it, because we are merely humans. God is God--the Great I AM. Since your theory doesn't consist of God, I can make the argument of, "Where did life come from? You say the "Big BANG", so are you saying that life came from a bang? Like, a bang from some kind of sun? Then you're saying life came from a bang from a sun, which means life came from an object, which we know since the old days that flies do not come from meat. Hey pal, we're not in the 1300s anymore.

 

 

obviously he can't have just decided hey let me create man, they is little purpose of us here, we eat breathe then die, and we are forgotten, and we have like 100+ religions and believes and all say they are pretty real.

He can't? Where do you make these assuptions? There is much purpose of us here--to spread the Gospel and his Word to all nations and kingdoms. Eating, breathing, and dying are all part of life. There is many religions, clearly. All these religions are beliefs. Evolution is one of them. Only one belief can be true.

 

I believe i come from ape and became man! why do holy man sin more compared to unholy ? why go to war in the name of religion why can't the lord him self do it rather than dying needlessly in the hands of mad men.

I know what you believe. Holy men sin more than unholy man? Proof? I do recognize that everyone sins. There are many Christians that do evil deeds due to not caring and not feeling the water of life flowing through him. "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" -Romans 3:23. But God gives us all another chance for free "By the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord." -Romans 6:23

 

As for your other question, the Lord is with those who believe, even if they're in war. It's evident the way he was with Israel, until they rebuked his name.

 

@already.dead Dont worry when The rapture begins they'll see what were talking about ;)

That's cruel. I don't want to think about anyone going to Hell. Not even those who rebuke and mock his name with the strongest hatred.

 

i am a Roman catholic

Wow....you contradict yourself. I'm not a Roman Catholic, but one of my sets of grandparents are and they have a big book--a creed. This creed says everything it really can against the theory.

 

 

 

Good argument! Though, are you not commiting the fallacy of Ad Hominem Circumstantial?

 

[smashman777 104]

When God created the world after making the animals he said "it is good". Now the hebrew translation to english is 'perfect'. Now if something was perfect would you actually make adjustments or try to fix something perfect?? N0 @Goldrock you will not be an Athiest If you witness the second coming of christ

[ATHENA123 56]

Not sure what I belive but on this particular topic I like to keep an open mind

[rampagerhino 67]

I believe in evolution. 

[ATHENA123 56]

I believe in evolution.

 

I do too at the moment unless you guys can convince me otherwise

[navi613 73]

There is a huge amount of evidence to support the theory. Of course, no scientific theories are definitely true, but this particular one is generally accepted as scientifically accurate. I can dig some evidence up from the deepest darkest realms of the Internet, if you wish :P

 

Go ahead

[DrSaint 176]

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