Mammoths and Titans

[CRAYNEUM 1]

Should Tanki get rid of Mammoths and Titans?

[Joshua16 780]

Defenitly not!

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Should Tanki get rid of Mammoths and Titans?

CRAYNEUM is an alternate account of monkeyburn.

 

The reason that he created this thread, is due to a debate that we've been having for the last 3 hours now here on the forums. You can see how it started here. It continues from page 10 until page 13 in that thread.

 

He also has 7 more alternate accounts, which he used here to +1 his own post on his main account, monkeyburn.

 

If you dont believe that these are all his accounts, look closely at the 'last active' dates on all of his alts that he +1'd his post with.

 

Heres a list of his alt accounts below in the spoiler, as you can see, he +1'd the post on 7 different accounts, within 5 minutes of writing his original post. He then logged on to each alt (one of which was created today)

 

 

SEYEBONO

Member Since 04 Dec 2013 16:58

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 16:59

byebyeoooooh

Member Since 25 Jan 2013 05:33

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:00

CANDYSPRISEMember Since 21 Jan 2013 03:31

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:03

run-just-run

Member Since 22 Jan 2013 04:46

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:05

X-NORMAL

Member Since 19 Jan 2013 04:53

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:07

MED-5

Member Since 04 Nov 2013 21:31

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:09

VOSEE

Member Since 04 Sep 2013 11:36

Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:12

 

 

 

This poll that you are viewing above was created shortly after our debate between pages 10-13 of the thread Open testing of the new physics.

 

I never argued that Mammoth or Titan should be removed, no one here is saying that, it would be silly. I simply said that it should have its place. Mammoth should not be an all-rounder hull, it was built for a defensive roll, examine the description of each hull to see what it was created for. Those of you that want to attack on the front line however, the medium hulls will suit you better. Please read pages 10-13 of the original thread, and comment on your opinion as stated by myself, and monkeyburn, in regards to this topic/poll.

[monkeyburn 13,559]

 

 

CRAYNEUM is an alternate account of monkeyburn.

 

The reason that he created this thread, is due to a debate that we've been having for the last 3 hours now here on the forums. You can see how it started here. It continues from page 10 until page 13 in that thread.

 

He also has 7 more alternate accounts, which he used here to +1 his own post on his main account, monkeyburn.

 

If you dont believe that these are all his accounts, look closely at the 'last active' dates on all of his alts that he +1'd his post with.

 

Heres a list of his alt accounts below in the spoiler, as you can see, he +1'd the post on 7 different accounts, within 5 minutes of writing his original post. He then logged on to each alt (one of which was created today)

 

 

SEYEBONO

Member Since 04 Dec 2013 16:58
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 16:59

byebyeoooooh

Member Since 25 Jan 2013 05:33
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:00

CANDYSPRISE Member Since 21 Jan 2013 03:31
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:03

run-just-run

Member Since 22 Jan 2013 04:46
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:05

X-NORMAL

Member Since 19 Jan 2013 04:53
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:07

MED-5

Member Since 04 Nov 2013 21:31
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:09

VOSEE

Member Since 04 Sep 2013 11:36
Last Active 04 Dec 2013 17:12

 

 

 

This poll that you are viewing above was created shortly after our debate between pages 10-13 of the thread Open testing of the new physics.

 

I never argued that Mammoth or Titan should be removed, no one here is saying that, it would be silly. I simply said that it should have its place. Mammoth should not be an all-rounder hull, it was built for a defensive roll, examine the description of each hull to see what it was created for. Those of you that want to attack on the front line however, the medium hulls will suit you better. Please read pages 10-13 of the original thread, and comment on your opinion as stated by myself, and monkeyburn, in regards to this topic/poll.

 

 

"Let me refresh your memory!"

 

brandybabyxx, on 04 Dec 2013 - 13:03, said:

@monkeybum

 

Your previous post

 

Did you just +1 your own post 8 times on 8 different alts? This could not have happened in such a short time period, and every single one of the accounts who +1'd the post are ALL lower than WO1 ranking, which means unless they are ALL alternates of other people with high ranks (aside from yourself) they wouldn't even understand what your view was in the post.

 

That was pretty low dude.

 

Every single one was 'Last Active' within the same 5 minutes of them +1ing that post. They're all your alts.

"No! What you have done is very low (public accusation that deserves an apology)...I have friends that are higher rank than myself. We often go into games together. We are decent, ethical team players who take pride in this game! "Thank you! Have a good day!" 

brandybabyxx, on 04 Dec 2013 - 13:14, said:

I apologize if I am wrong of course, but the evidence seems pretty clear to me. 8 thumbs up within 5 minutes from very very low ranked accounts, some of which have 0 active posts.

Apology accepted...When you achieve higher rank, you will understand the distinction between the ethical and non ethical player, as well as the rift between the two, or you may not...Alt's are not uncommon. What amazes me, is that this is no longer about open testing of new physics. You actually dug that deep? If you want. We can call a moderator in, and clear this up real quick! 

 

Just so you know brandybabyxx, I do not have to give you a personal account of the friends I play with, their alternate accounts, or the fact that we live in a community building and share computers....Be very thankful, I'm not calling in a Mod yet.

 

Let me also remind you it is against forum rules to personally attack another forum member...Just because I don't agree with your point of view, doesn't give you the right to besmirch my integrity with your implied accusations.

 

I meant what I said: If you want. We can call a moderator in, and clear this up real quick!  

[CRAYNEUM 1]

The reason I made this topic/poll was because of this supported statement, which I have replied to. I hope to one day get a Titan or Mam. And yes I do know monkeyburn, and share computers.

 

brandybabyxx, on 04 Dec 2013 - 07:58, said:

I agree somewhat..... but when it becomes possible for a team to work better when having 4-8 heavy hulls all on one team, than with 1-3 heavy hulls, It clearly shows some problem with balance. If I'm playing a Combe match, and 4 mammoth M2's join on the other team, if even one of them drugs, it requires 2-3 light-medium hulls to drug back to keep the match in balance. If 2-3 mammoths drug, then the opposing team can say goodbye.

 

When I'm playing an Iran match, and the score is 26-14, the match ends on 30 flags, and all of the losing team has quit the match.... leaving 8 players on the winning side using light/medium hulls mostly, with 1-2 heavy hulls.... and 6 M2 mammoths come in, 4 of them on full drugs, they absolutely WRECK the match, and theres nothing that can be done... it requires a full team of 8 light hulls even if they are on drugs. This shouldnt be possible..... there shouldnt be a team that can totally dominate the other, because of them using one particular hull. That means its OP, and the developers recognize this, along with 80% of the players here. Even those who own Mammoth agree that its OP.

 

As for Titan, logically, its smaller size and slightly higher speed would indeed make it a better attacker than Mammoth. This was not true before, and thankfully they are making changes so that it will make more sense. Less HP, more speed, should make it a better attacker... but it still should not just plow through everything in its path...

 

Again, I think everything should have its uses. I can't agree with the statement, "regardless of the map you play in." Wasp has no place in certain maps, other hulls should also have weaknesses as well. A mammoth or titan when used in the right map in the right position should indeed hold an extremely important role in a teams success, but I don't think there should ever be a time where if there are x amount of hull types in a match, one team is guarenteed to win, unless its an 'extreme' map, such as Island.

 

Purchasing Titan or Mammoth should not be an all-rounder, play-any-map-you-want-with-great-success, powerhouse. That job is for MEDIUM tanks. Thats why they have balance, speed, and decent HP. Logically we should have more players using medium tanks, than light or heavy. You cant buy a wasp and expect it to fill your every need, and you should not be able to do it with a mammoth or titan either, though Titan should be closer to this effect, just as hornet is more similar to a medium hull.

 

No offense to you either btw, just an opinion.

 

GoodKn1ght, on 04 Dec 2013 - 16:01, said:

I agree  with you  brandy   you are spot on correct.

I know I don’t completely understand what’s going on with Titan and Mammoth at the M-3 level because of my rank, but I do know that it seems unfair to remove power from tanks that people have taken a long time to obtain. I’m sure that they have spent a lot of money, and even to rank to that level takes time...Yes it would be great if the Titans and Mammoths would just go away. I know a lot of players that don’t “Step Up To The Plate!” and shoulder their fair share would just love the heck out of that. I see it at my level. Most of these players do nothing more than run around scooping up crystal boxes, and other things to benefit themselves. You thumb them and more of the same take their place. Just my opinion. Of course if the Titans and Mammoths go away who will be next on the list of those dissatisfied players that just want an easy ride?

[shadewarttt 3,350]

Weirdos... -_-

[RampagingVenom 554]

For not want to get rid of Mammoth & Titan? :D

haha

yep weirdo's 

*laughs till it hurts*

[r_Zesx0 39]

My opinion is that mammoths and titans are OP because they're 'slow' and with awfully lot of health. The big problem iw because of the supplies; double armour gives you 100% more health whilst nitro gives only about 60% more speed. Before rebalance nitro gave you 100% of extra speed and in that's why it all was balanced. It is complicated, but because DA gives 100% more health and nitro gives only 60% more speed it makes heavy hulls overpowered.

[FatalTank 712]

My opinion is that mammoths and titans are OP because they're 'slow' and with awfully lot of health. The big problem iw because of the supplies; double armour gives you 100% more health whilst nitro gives only about 60% more speed. Before rebalance nitro gave you 100% of extra speed and in that's why it all was balanced. It is complicated, but because DA gives 100% more health and nitro gives only 60% more speed it makes heavy hulls overpowered.

True...but as long there are Smokies(crits) in the game...heavy hulls are not much trouble!

[r_Zesx0 39]

True...but as long there are Smokies(crits) in the game...heavy hulls are not much trouble!

But smoky's critical power is a bit too high. If a smoky gives critical hit then not only ita critical power is released but also its normal shot power is added. This way Smoky M3 can destroy Hunter M3 with one shot!

 

Smoky and Twins should be rebalanced because even if they were at the same rank as other weapons in upgrades, they would be OP compared to the others. Personally I hate smoky and twins but because they're OP I choose to upgrade them on my main account.

[kingeoin14 30]

No.

[rampagerhino 67]

No, i love my Mammoth and the defense it provides my team with. I mean, i can sit on my flag and if there are only wasps and hornets on the other team, well, GL pushing my tank off the flag. :)

[Ilia.ArchangeI 6,785]

My opinion is that mammoths and titans are OP because they're 'slow' and with awfully lot of health. The big problem iw because of the supplies; double armour gives you 100% more health whilst nitro gives only about 60% more speed. Before rebalance nitro gave you 100% of extra speed and in that's why it all was balanced. It is complicated, but because DA gives 100% more health and nitro gives only 60% more speed it makes heavy hulls overpowered.

Nitro used to give 30% plus 2m/s which made heavy hulls overpowered.

 

Example:

Hornet M3 speed is 9.1               2m/s is 21% of its speed               Hornet on Nitro has a 51% speed increase (21+30)

Mammoth M3 speed is 5.2          2m/s is 38% of its speed               Mammoth on Nitro has 68% speed increase (38+30)

 

Now nitro gives 30% speed increase, so that makes it equal for all hulls.