Update 205 — New Physics

[bradm21 19]

At least scroll up to see what 90% you talking about....you are wrong...ALL russian community praises this update and only English is against...do you even know how big is the English community? Like 1/4 of whole Tanki....russians are almost the 3/4...no need to mention German. So that 90% you mentioning...is not even 25% of whole Tanki....means that the rest of 75% are happy...so stop whining...and try to learn playing with new physx. (facepalm)

ALL Russian community praises this update??  :huh: You are wrong yourself at least, simply put it's a blatant lie. How can you even talk for ALL Russian community?

 

Actually, the official Russian Update 205 thread got very heated so the developers simply closed it after 16 hours and 114 pages. If you've ever read that thread you could see that most of the Russian community is AGAINST Update 205.

 

OTOH, even if ALL Russian community praises this update it doesn't mean that either English or German community should do it too (facepalm)

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Bradm: Well color me surprised, you are right!

 

Although I was using Google translate, I could see that it did get pretty heated. .  ..  and funny how the person who closed it got like 85 dislikes. xD

[Top_spin_13 0]

sorry for my words,but you really fked up my Mamt M2,its now slow and i cant turn my tank to right or left,back my money.....

[gunslingerOoO 32]

Look your level. Those complaining, with a reason, are the older ones. 

Who said this is my main, search blackdiceOoO and thats my main.

Compared to my account your pretty tiny.

Edited December 13, 2013 by gunslingerOoO

[bradm21 19]

   If you developers do not change their mind about removing this update, at least give to your players their cristals they spend from all the upgrades of turrets and hulls back, because this update was something like rebalance and some players, like me , have changed their mind about their hull or/and turret.

   Please let us decide again.

 

 

Why to invest ANY MONEY in the Garage if you CHANGE so DRAMATICALLY the SPECIFICATIONS of the tanks? You ruined my garage, gave priorities to one gun (RICO), took from the others? Can I be sure in any new investment if you tomorrow change the specifications again?

 

 

Why haven't we got a refund for crystals?! This update is really disappointing! At least give us a refund just like last year!!!

 

Vladimir Kovtun:

"Короткой строкой напишу по поводу Гаражей. Мы их не обнуляем, ничего не забираем, кристаллы не возвращаем. Это решение было принято уже давно, и мы его придерживаемся. Процесс добаланса теперь будет постоянным. Параметры вещей будут понемногу меняться" End of quote

 

 

In English: "A few words about garages. We do not reset them, nothing is taken back, crystals are not refunded. The decision was made a long time ago and we stick to it. Balancing is a continuous process from now on. Item characteristics will be changed gradually".

 

So they can change anything, anytime and in any way they want and they will. There's nothing we can do about it, well almost nothing - we can only quit and stop paying. I've made my choice already ;)  

 

Perfect balance can never be reached or as some Russian player cleverly put it the balance will be reached only if all players are equipped with the same gun, same hull with no paint and all battle points are summed up and divided amongst all players. :lol:

 

Tthe only balance the developers care for is obviously their bank balance.

[legenddestroyer 824]

 

 

Tthe only balance the developers care for is obviously their bank balance.

 

Well said..

[sam131192 113]

YOUR KILLING TANKI BY THIS CHANGE> NOTHING TO DO WITH SKILLS AND MORE WITH LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually its exactly the opposite now !

[sam131192 113]

There are no problems with the Hulls in General, speed, ok, whatever, the problem is in the GUNS, The Shaft has become useless, a complete sitting duck.

So just move that duck after you shoot ! Don't just hold on to that crap stratergy where you did'nt contribute to the team's effort in any way. Learn to innovate and change it completely . Don't just spend half an hour at an opening waiting for someone to walk through. Dump that mammoth and put on a light hull. And instead of wasting your time whining away here just play and learn and adapt to the new physics !

Edited December 13, 2013 by sam131192

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Sam: You should try adapting with the new Mammoth. :D And it's not that easy to ''dump'' a hull you've spent hard-earned Crystals on. :rolleyes:

Edited December 13, 2013 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[sam131192 113]

People don't cry pls, Developers thanks for this awesome update,

Much more action now!

Before it was soooo boring, but now it's very fun,

A few minute's ago i played an drugwar, and  everybody is able to capture a flag, doesn't matter u drive with mammoet  , dictator  or just Wasp m2(like me)

Try out new tactics!

Thanks developers ;))

Exactly dude ! Why aren't these guys getting this. My friend with a mammoth m2 is still able to capture a flag easily . The game is so much more enjoyable now ! Did anyone notice that it is so easy to compete with buyers now even if they drug all the time beacause nos does'nt give much advantage.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Sam: Do realize that not everyone drugs.

[sam131192 113]

@Sam: You should try adapting with the new Mammoth. :D And it's not that easy to ''dump'' a hull you've spent hard-earned Crystals on. :rolleyes:

I understand mammoth users have been left behind a lot . But seriously , a short ranged turret with a high. Dps should'nt be going around with that much HP and still catching up with the light ones.

Edited December 13, 2013 by sam131192

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Sam: Oh right, so nerf it to the ground and below. That makes sense. :mellow:

 

Anyways, if you did understand, then you'd figure that Mammoth would need some kind of buff, would it not?

 

I used Wasp M1 until my mid-Major days, and then Mammoth M2 the rest. So I know quite a bit about both. Now, it's not the Light Hulls job to confront a Heavy Hull upfront. They just come rushing near you- asking to be shot. The thing is, if you get a light hull, then act like one and use the speed. It has low health for a reason. :rolleyes: But I guess they don't understand that so they need Mammoth nerfed more than it should be- just to make it seem fair for them. Nice going.

[toomai51 55]

So just move that duck after you shoot ! Don't just hold on to that crap stratergy where you did'nt contribute to the team's effort in any way. Learn to innovate and change it completely . Don't just spend half an hour at an opening waiting for someone to walk through. Dump that mammoth and put on a light hull. And instead of wasting your time whining away here just play and learn and adapt to the new physics !

Agree with you there - light hull very fast , you just need to adapt and one thing particularly for shaft users - won't be able to 'camp' for long - you will need to hit and run , that's where the fast hull is handy.

[sam131192 113]

@Sam: Oh right, so nerf it to the ground and below. That makes sense. :mellow:

 

Anyways, if you did understand, then you'd figure that Mammoth would need some kind of buff, would it not?

 

I used Wasp M1 until my mid-Major days, and then Mammoth M2 the rest. So I know quite a bit about both. Now, it's not the Light Hulls job to confront a Heavy Hull upfront. They just come rushing near you- asking to be shot. The thing is, if you get a light hull, then act like one and use the speed. It has low health for a reason. :rolleyes: But I guess they don't understand that so they need Mammoth nerfed more than it should be- just to make it seem fair for them. Nice going.

I agree that mammoth should have more HP but I am absolutely sure that its nerfed speed is a good move . Before the new physics everyone made it a point to have mammoth in their garages . What for ? Just to survive in battles where only mammoth was used. It was so pathetic to see no variety in gameplay , just tanks which all looked the same. Heck people even used it with isida because of its speed. You have to admit the fact that the physics update has brought variety to the gameplay . The beast has been caged . Edited December 13, 2013 by sam131192

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Sam: Yeah, the speed is alright. However, it should have more Hp, Power, and more importantly, should not be able to get pushed by Titan.

 

It brought variety in the gameplay? No, it just tipped the balance over. Now the weaker Hulls/Turrets are stronger, but the former Strength has been nerfed TOO much. So it'll be fun for now, but that Speed is going to become repetitive and boring. Soon even 11.5 speed is going to feel slower. . . . I know it doesn't feel like it now, but trust me, it will.

 

The beast has been caged. Ah but I wonder if that is truly a good thing?

[Babbeo 9]

As a last note to the Tanki Team. If people is taking its time to post here and be part of this Forum is because they really care for this amazing Game-Site you guys have been created. Many as me, believe this game concept is unique, well though and fun to play and to be part of it. The big majority have spend hours working in their tanks, their strategies, their alliance. Many have also spend a decent amount of money to fully use all the option you have implemented in the Game, to make Tanki a great Game platform for people around the world. from Russia to the United States and everybody in between. 

The big majority of Players that have post in this forum have the same complains, the same issues and the same will to keep playing your game, because, lets be honest, Tanki rocket. So please listen us, pay attention to what the big majority is saying. Some changes were need it, for sure, twice some Hulls, improve some torrets, reinforcing the CODE against Hackers, improve Servers capabilities etc, but this changes should have not change all the dynamics of the game and give favor to small group of players used to a more High Speed Adrenaline. 

We love this Game, we want to continue playing it, paying for upgrades and goodies, and have fun as we have been having till Upgrade 205. Don't disappoint us. People will walk away and we want this game to exist for longer, but in a smart and responsible way.

Thank you guys for all your work and efforts, I hope you guys are listening. Lets fix this mess. 

 

Yago

 

Excellent comment, I totally agree.

More, even without entering the very tech details of the rebalance, what left the greatest part of players unhappy are the dramatic and abrupt changes in weapons features, that undermined previous players' garage choice, skills training, alliances and so forth. Again, as I write earlier, I cannot find a link between tankers' opinions and suggestions and this rebalance. I understand the difficulties implied in collecting thousand of opinions and translate them in to precise modifications: nevertheless these are the skills required for a good management of the game on Tanki's side, lacking in this issue.

 

All the best. 

[semyonkirov 29,038]

We are listening to you, nobody said that the state in which all the turrets and hulls are now won't change and will always stay like that. Things will most likely be adjusted even more.

[bradm21 19]

A few words on the so called balance and how this update is related to it:

 

A fraudulent scheme can be seen clearly, let me explain. One gun is buffed so all players rush to buy it. Accordingly, a lot of players use that gun in battles so everyone is forced to buy paints to protect themselves from that gun. Once the market is saturated and the sales of that gun and the paints fall the gun is declared out of balance and is nerfed. The most expensive guns are buffed usually. Coincidence? :rolleyes:

 

Remember that rico was the most powerful gun before the rebalance? Thunder was crowned as a new king by rebalance but was nerfed soon. Reason? With all those refunded crystals on hands thunder sales fell pretty fast I assume. A lot of players bought thunder and Emerald at that time. Refund? No way.

 

Next, twins took over thunder's place. Almost every high ranking player I know of bought twins and Rock or urban and guess what? Right, the twins is nerfed by this update as well as freeze and smoky. Refund? No way. Do you believe that it took them a year to see that twins was overpowered?

 

The close range guns now  have upper hand in battles thanks to the new physics. Almost everyone has a freeze but not firebird, much more expensive gun, 256100 crystals total vs 376850 crystals so they nerfed freeze. Again, Inferno is 159000 crystals while Zeus is 250000 crystals.

 

I believe that I heard that it was impossible to introduce Micro Upgrades (MU) before the new physics is implemented due to technical difficulties but now I think that it was a lie. Physics were changed so that some guns could be nerfed in the process and MUs could be sold to the poor owners of those nerfed guns and others. Surely the deal will be sweetened with holiday sales.

 

You know that it took them half a year of hard work to develop the new physics (which no one asked for) don't you? The time for this update and consecutively MUs could not be more favorable that the holiday season. 

 

Now rico is the new king, there are much more ricos around already compared to that before this update. Wait, you are asking how much does Clay cost? You guessed it right, 250K crystals.

 

Cycle starts over, long live the king!!.

 

Rant is over

 

P.S. I have all m3 guns except isida and shaft (I never liked both) so I can always switch to another gun if my fav gun is nerfed but I'm quitting nonetheless, the new physics are  are ridiculous at least. Besides, with all those racing tanks and fast movements it's very hard on my eyes. Actually, I'm shocked that no one else here mentions it while I know that many Russians experienced that too. Everyone else must have much younger eyes than me I guess  :) I could play hours at time before this update. Playing half an hour after the update was more than enough for me.

 

 

[Afro_Samurai 240]

We are listening to you, nobody said that the state in which all the turrets and hulls are now won't change and will always stay like that. Things will most likely be adjusted even more.

Thanks for listening to us.  It shows that you guys care about how the players feel about the game.

[usernamesoffensive 0]

Shaft was always a good weapon but stupidly slow to move and recharge, now it's no more than a pointless ornament on your tank, can't fire until it's fully recharged, still moves deathly slow and is useless against twins and ricochet f a g g o t guns at close quarters! This game is rapidly losing it appeal! :angry:

Edited December 13, 2013 by usernamesoffensive

[juliantal98 0]

The battles are more epic now, BUT it was like a new rebalance, with mayn new changes of course, there should be a refund with it. I know, why tanki doesnt want a refund, BUT there should be Refund with every updates wich change the gamepaly( i mean turrets, Hulls)

[BlackbeardThePirate 0]

 

 Besides, with all those racing tanks and fast movements it's very hard on my eyes. Actually, I'm shocked that no one else here mentions it while I know that many Russians experienced that too. Everyone else must have much younger eyes than me I guess  :) I could play hours at time before this update. Playing half an hour after the update was more than enough for me.

 

 

That's so true - I just played a couple of 15 minute battles and my eyes are aching. 

 

For me, 205 seems more CPU hungry and consequently the lag has become much worse. Maybe I am one of the more mature players, but all this high speed 'racing car' Tanki gameplay seems so childish. I hope that Tanki can become more realistic and true to it's roots.

[MyLife_MyReign 256]

Guys to make play easier ,

 

1.go to settings

2.off the automatic graphics quality.

3.off the anti.......

4.if it lags off all the icons of the automatic graphics quality except dynamic lightings and dynamic shadows.

5.enjoy your game.

[MyLife_MyReign 256]

We are listening to you, nobody said that the state in which all the turrets and hulls are now won't change and will always stay like that. Things will most likely be adjusted even more.

Change the drifting thingy then everything will be alright.