Tanki Online Debating Society

[D1E 257]

Eh??  Gold I'm interested to know why I got a loss, when it was declared as a draw.

[BarneyAndFriend 402]

Eyyy , can I join

[whizclips 232]

I want to join too.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

cool, Sign me up. Sent a PM.

[GoldRock 6,165]

And the devil's advocate arrives... :p Will add all of you to the Skype group within 3 hours, not got access to Skype right now.

 

Eh?? Gold I'm interested to know why I got a loss, when it was declared as a draw.

Sorry, my mistake >.< Will correct that now, thanks for pointing that out.

[GoldRock 6,165]

'Does absolute truth exist?' (typed)
Participants: Yes: @whizclips,  vs. No: , 
Neutral: @GoldRock, 
Winner: Yes (@whizclips and )
Top Debater: 
Chairman's statement:

Chairmen's verdict - overall, we feel that the Yes side won. Achilles used good arguments, based on logical reasoning. Likewise, Selena was able to provide some strong points - the No side, as a team, did perform very well. As for the Yes side, we find that whizclips did surprisingly well for the situation he was in, being able to defend his arguments, though being put on the spot on a few occasions. The real game-changer was Damn_Slow. He made use of sources in his arguments to good effect, and expanded upon his points in great detail. 

 

As a team, the Yes side worked very well. Whizclips was able to assert his position on the matter whilst Damn_Slow typed up his arguments. The No side, understandably, had difficulty responding to all of the points Damn_Slow raised. In fact, Achilles admitted he switched sides towards the end, proving the prowess of Damn_Slow's points. Though the No side performed commendably well, with strong arguments which were to the point, we find the Yes side to be the victors, and Damn_Slow is hereby the Top Debater for this debate.

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

I'll join the group. :)

[GoldRock 6,165]

I'll join the group. :)

Awesome, you've been added a while ago ^_^

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Awesome, you've been added a while ago ^_^

Oh, that's what that Skype group was about.. heh.. xD Thank ya.

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

I noticed something about this debate topic and I don't know if this is being done on purpose, or if it just kind of happened and the leaders are oblivious to it, but I'm losing interest already due to the fact that the posted 'results' are almost entirely useless for onlookers.
 
The way the 'winner' and 'chairmans verdict' is written is pointless for other forumers and Tanki players because all it says is "So and so had a bunch of one-liners and [insert name here] defended himself well but the winner has got to be ____ because of how he defended his material with reliable and credible sources in the debate over, 'Does absolute truth exist?'"
 
Uhhh... hello... WHO CARES to read that... basically the thing is structured around improving ones debate skills and being judged publicly about how well they can debate and put sentences together. Sounds like an English class to me. Rather than caring about the individual topics and the actual information that was given, listing important points that were made... all that is displayed is ones 'debating skill' without an ounce of relevant info to the topic.
 
@Who.Cares, aside from @GoldRock and @Remaine as to which of them is a more seasoned debater? Really? Or if @GoldRock has better sentence structure and did a little more research.
 
It would be much more interesting if the write up at the end contains important info from resources or simply the debaters sound reasoning that onlookers can ponder over and think about themselves. Then they can respond to each debate by perhaps giving comments. Maybe you'll be so successful and the topic will become the most followed topic of all time.
 
I also suggest you publicly hold the debate so that people can 'vote' on who won the debate, rather than having a single chairman who can be biased. Someone should be taking notes - a transcriptionist - which should be awarded for their efforts and the transcription would be posted in a spoiler below each new debate topic. #See footnote
 
Currently, if you go read all the results, all you'll find is ' has good grammar, blah blah couldn't backup his points when arguments were made against him, and Ms.Debate had excellent punctuation. It's irrelevant to the actual points that were made.
 
The people in the debate are PASSIONATE about topics, and they want their words to be heard so others can grasp their views. They don't care if they missed a few grammar or sentence errors. Its heartfelt or researched material.
 
What if you read a history book and came across Dr. Martin Luther King and all the book says is 'He gave a great speech backing up important points and some people agreed with him, though he had many one liners and a few grammar mistakes, he won many hearts over.' -The End- LOLWUT

 

You get my point. It's a slap in the face for those who defended their beliefs and values in a debate, to be given council about their spelling, grammar, and research abilities, rather than their heartfelt opinions, ideas, and beliefs. Of course we need to have both judged, but certainly the latter should hold more weight. In the past debates, it seems like it hasn't.
 
It'll take more work, but I suggest we have less debates, but put more focus on each of them. Quality over quantity.

 

Suggestions for selecting topics

Create a poll which will continually be updated. Whichever topic receives the most votes is the choice of debate. This will be done in advance, so a schedule can be seen for all interested. The first poll will determine the upcoming debate 1 week ahead of time. THREE topics will be listed. The topic which is voted FIRST is the topic. The topic which receives the SECOND most amount of votes will be listed in the next weeks poll choices.

 

-This will give spectators time to arrange to attend the next debate to enjoy it thuroughly, and will allow for participants to do research and get their thoughts together to give strong arguments. We've gone through 9 topics within 48 hours... thats insane. If we keep up the pace, we'll run out of topics in no time. Give each one more consideration and more time to be thought through if you want onlookers to enjoy this, as sort of a 'television series' to stay updated with. Some people can handle 'movie marathons' but not all of us have the time or focus to do so, and we don't want to miss 10 debates with nice topics just because we went on a 2 day vacation.

 

-Feel free to make a schedule using Google and list dates and times of debates... there shouldn't be any more than 2 small debates per day, and the 'big' weekly topics should be given special attention. (The ones voted in poll in 1st) Having 2 debates at max per day would allow for people of different time zones to participate/spectate.
 

**Ignore names used here, they're just examples and were readily available, plus one of them was used for humor.**

 

#Perhaps only the weekly 1st voted topic will be transcribed - which can also be translated to Russian/German using Google translate, along with someone who speaks both languages to fix any of Google's errors. (All of this in the event that this becomes popular enough.)

Edited April 6, 2014 by r_brandybabyxx0

[GoldRock 6,165]

 

I noticed something about this debate topic and I don't know if this is being done on purpose, or if it just kind of happened and the leaders are oblivious to it, but I'm losing interest already due to the fact that the posted 'results' are almost entirely useless for onlookers.

 

The way the 'winner' and 'chairmans verdict' is written is pointless for other forumers and Tanki players because all it says is "So and so had a bunch of one-liners and [insert name here] defended himself well but the winner has got to be ____ because of how he defended his material with reliable and credible sources in the debate over, 'Does absolute truth exist?'"

 

Uhhh... hello... WHO CARES to read that... basically the thing is structured around improving ones debate skills and being judged publicly about how well they can debate and put sentences together. Sounds like an English class to me. Rather than caring about the individual topics and the actual information that was given, listing important points that were made... all that is displayed is ones 'debating skill' without an ounce of relevant info to the topic.

 

@Who.Cares, aside from @GoldRock and @Remaine as to which of them is a more seasoned debater? Really? Or if @GoldRock has better sentence structure and did a little more research.

 

It would be much more interesting if the write up at end contains important info from resources or simply the debaters sound reasoning that onlookers can ponder over and think about it themselves. Then they can respond to each debate by perhaps giving comments. Maybe you'll be so successful and the topic will become the most followed topic of all time.

 

I also suggest you publicly hold the debate so that people can 'vote' on who won the debate, rather than having a single chairman who can be biased. Someone should be taking notes - a transcriptionist - which should be awarded for their efforts and the transcription would be posted in a spoiler below each new debate topic.

 

Currently, if you go read all the results, all you'll find is ' has good grammar, blah blah couldn't backup his points when arguments were made against him, and Ms.Debate had excellent punctuation. It's irrelevant to the actual points that were made.

 

The people in the debate are PASSIONATE about topics, and they want their words to be told so others can hear their views. They don't care about if they missed a few grammar or sentence errors. Its heartfelt or researched material.

 

What if you read a history book and came across Dr. Martin Luther King and all the book says is 'He gave a great speech backing up important points and some people agreed with him, though he had many one liners and a few grammar mistakes, he won many hearts over.' -The End- LOLWUT

 

You get my point. It's a slap in the face for those who defended their beliefs and values in a debate, to be given council about their spelling, grammar, and research abilities, rather than their heartfelt opinions, ideas, and beliefs. Of course we need to have both judged, but certainly the latter should hold more weight. In the past debates, it seems like it hasn't.

 

It'll take more work, but I suggest we have less debates, but put more focus on each of them. Quality over quantity.

 

**Ignore names used here, they're just examples and were readily available, plus one of them was used for humor.**

 

 

Thanks for the feedback, brandy! Great to see you helping us out - we'll look at implementing your suggestions, and will most likely do so for most of them ^_^

[whizclips 232]

The only problem is the grammatical judgement. Please remove that.  ;)

Edited April 6, 2014 by whizclips

[monkeyburn 13,523]

To whom it may concern:

[red_tank_the_best 300]

I would like to join ^_^

Skype name: red_tank_the_best

[HirunMeepage 763]

Do we get a chance to get ready before the debate starts?

 

Do we get information on what the debate will be on?

[canadarules 1,938]

what is the debate about

[whizclips 232]

My win still has not been recorded Gold?

[legenddestroyer 824]

Top Debaters:

- 2

Hehe... Beware of the wabbit :D

[GoldRock 6,165]

I would like to join ^_^

Skype name: red_tank_the_best

Will add you now.

 

Do we get a chance to get ready before the debate starts?

 

Do we get information on what the debate will be on?

Yes to both questions, of course.

 

what is the debate about

We hold multiple debates, which can be about everything and anything controversial.

 

My win still has not been recorded Gold?

Updated, thanks for telling me. Edited April 7, 2014 by GoldRock

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

Good luck everyone! nice organization

[red_tank_the_best 300]

It becomes more interesting and interesting...

[mido23 224]

 

Motion to be Debated: Does god exist? Yes or No

This one will be interesting, are we going to be able to hear it somehow ?

Edited April 8, 2014 by mido23

[GoldRock 6,165]

Motion to be Debated: Does god exist? Yes or No

This one will be interesting, are we going to be able to hear it somehow ?

It already took place - a recording of part of this debate is currently being uploaded ;)

[shadewarttt 3,350]

It becomes more interesting and interesting...

*More and more interesting.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

*More and more interesting.

:S