Balancing of turrets and hulls

[percyjackson9470 166]

i'd still be quite scared if i was one of those m3s... ;p it fires faster and has a wider vertical angle of fire c:

Nah today they barely take out 25% of my health. 

[MrTactics 219]

 

A lot of players who have been playing a lot longer then you, are not happy with the change, you don't take away from what has been paid for with many hours of play and many purchases to enhance a tank, only to be weakened by a re balance!

All of my clan members agree with what i'm saying!

It doesn't matter whether you've been playing for 5 years or 5 days, no one is more or less worthy to opinion than others. Many are for and against the changes. There's no point directing it at me either, what do you expect me to do about it? Edited April 28, 2014 by MrTactics

[Xenophobia 457]

Well, thunder's opinions are mixed. Some players say that it's still very good or even better when some others believe that it's nerfed.

[dragonssk1 334]

Im glad I bought firebird m2 on the sale. Its mind nummig strong with hunter m2

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Well, thunder's opinions are mixed. Some players say that it's still very good or even better when some others believe that it's nerfed.

I know one thing, I've used Emerald more in the last week than the previous 3 months. Thunder is a good weapon now that hornet & viking hulls are made of glass.

Edited April 28, 2014 by AbsoluteZero

[mouser77 9]

/does Jedi mind trick...yes ignore the Viking / Rail. Those are not the tanks for jooo.

[Solid-Granit 30]

I hope so somebody sues that gang, who coax real money out of people_nation, and the rules are modified unilaterally! 

You destroyed the tactics, single murder already only the game. This not anymore the tank one, we do not have desire to play, we do not have desire to rebuild the garage anew, we do not have desire to pay two times! 

Who they agree with this, I send a message about it: In summer, let them be glad when they get the beer warmly dot like this, so this was got for their money! 

This is deserved, for him so good!

[LeBum 73]

I do not know what to purchase or MU since any hull or turret could be nerfed next month, or even tomorrow. I will wait a couple of weeks to see if the developers 'fix' this. I have no motivation to buy anything. If no changes are made then I will leave Tanki Online. There is no other choice given this fear and uncertainty that my chosen hull or turret could be changed at any time. Here are two suggestions on what is needed before I continue to play:

1) a written guarantee that hulls and turrets will not be nerfed in the future.

2) a refund of One hull and One Turret and One Paint. That would be fair since we could 'turn in' our main combination.  

[ATTANKER 35]

i disagree about the hulls. i made a deliberate choice to go with viking rather than dictator. i wanted the heavier armour and did not mind the slower speed compared to dictator. now i have dictator.another bad point is that it gets knocked around when hit by almost anything. i paid money for a hull i no longer have!

tankis perogative is that of constant change...firebird and dictator probably the least used from their groups are now the ones that are powered up....the writing was on the wall as soon as Viking had the 50% discount.....luckily for some, hulls are all the same in function, u just have to mix and choose and adjust between 3 different features of either speed health and power on your preference..but those who treated their hulls like a piece of art...liking Viking was... a real robust tank...will be disappointed but thats how it works...the micro upgrades are there to give the user that power to make a choice and improve his tank in a good time in relation to his rank and how effective will that powering up be at that stage ...cross linked with the most popular paints and thus thats how (inversely to what was most popular) we got the current changes...perfectionists out there are best of starting again and seeing the best trajectory forward...but tanki might change it all again :huh: although i have to say tanks flipping over is a major negative...is it realistic...how much influence/power via gameplay has the user got to make a difference to control of the tank in certain situations...i feel littler then before....before users had the benefit of the doubt...and in the main i feel users prefer that.....rather than the opposite...i agree to agree ;) with the majority of what everyone said though most are coming from a subjective point of view but so long as their is some basis to their view..but still i think the changes are over the top......do i wanna be in some track like kungur going to get the flag and flipping over again and again??? or any other track...the further the worse

Edited April 29, 2014 by ATTANKER

[geezer62 41]

tankis perogative is that of constant change...firebird and dictator probably the least used from their groups are now the ones that are powered up....the writing was on the wall as soon as Viking had the 50% discount.....luckily for some, hulls are all the same in function, u just have to mix and choose and adjust between 3 different features of either speed health and power on your preference..but those who treated their hulls like a piece of art...liking Viking was... a real robust tank...will be disappointed but thats how it works...the micro upgrades are there to give the user that power to make a choice and improve his tank in a good time in relation to his rank and how effective will that powering up be at that stage ...cross linked with the most popular paints and thus thats how (inversely to what was most popular) we got the current changes...perfectionists out there are best of starting again and seeing the best trajectory forward...but tanki might change it all again :huh: although i have to say tanks flipping over is a major negative...is it realistic...how much influence/power via gameplay has the user got to make a difference to control of the tank in certain situations...i feel littler then before....before users had the benefit of the doubt...and in the main i feel users prefer that.....rather than the opposite...i agree to agree ;) with the majority of what everyone said though most are coming from a subjective point of view but so long as their is some basis to their view..but still i think the changes are over the top......do i wanna be in some track like kungur going to get the flag and flipping over again and again??? or any other track...the further the worse

Hmm, on a personal level i never treated viking as a work of art anymore than a mammoth or hornet owner. As a unique human being i have a certain mindset as to how i wish to play and that determines which hull/turret combi i like to use.Yes micro upgrades can make up some of the difference but then so can any tank owner, if you have the money to spend! The end result is the same. If dictator, titan,et al were unpopular, TANKI should have strived to make them more popular, not punish owners of other hulls. For instance, making m3 dictator available at the highest rank is ridiculous!. It should be available at a lower rank, and or be made stronger. Then people may decide to wait a bit longer to purchase that hull.  Yes Tanki,s prerogative is change, but maybe small changes not large ones.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Hmm, on a personal level i never treated viking as a work of art anymore than a mammoth or hornet owner. As a unique human being i have a certain mindset as to how i wish to play and that determines which hull/turret combi i like to use.Yes micro upgrades can make up some of the difference but then so can any tank owner, if you have the money to spend! The end result is the same. If dictator, titan,et al were unpopular, TANKI should have strived to make them more popular, not punish owners of other hulls. For instance, making m3 dictator available at the highest rank is ridiculous!. It should be available at a lower rank, and or be made stronger. Then people may decide to wait a bit longer to purchase that hull.  Yes Tanki,s prerogative is change, but maybe small changes not large ones.

Actually this is a very good point. Why didn't the devs think of this? If they made mistakes in the last rebalance what is to say they didn't make mistakes this time. Which they did. Firebird is OP for ranks that get it. Burn time of 30secs or something like that is crazy. Any way what I was going to say was what happens in 6 months to a year? Are the buyers going to have to pay for these mistakes AGAIN? It happened to Mammoth users when the new physics came out, now the Viking users, who's next. Maybe the rail users? 

What is really starting to bother me is the fact that no one the Tanki Team has even taken the time to make a statement of any kind to the growing number of disappointed buyers and high rank players. At least take the time to say something " We hear you and are reviewing the matter " or " We hear you and don't care " either one would be good, at least that way we would know where we stand, and weather or not we are just wasting our time here.

Edited April 29, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[timothy13 104]

shaft can shoot twice without needing recharging without scope mode. it is my new favorite my worst turrent is freeze and i am glad it quickly unfreeze within 3 seconds

[geezer62 41]

HELLO TANKI DEVS!

 

Can you hear the growing discontent at what you are doing?

Have you counted the negative posts or do you only see a handful of positive posts?

Do you actually give a damn?

Are you all about the money or do you care about the people who provide you with the money?

Are we wasting our money playing this game?

Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello!

Just as i thought!..........................Silence!

[MrTactics 219]

HELLO TANKI DEVS!

 

Can you hear the growing discontent at what you are doing?

Have you counted the negative posts or do you only see a handful of positive posts?

Do you actually give a damn?

Are you all about the money or do you care about the people who provide you with the money?

Are we wasting our money playing this game?

Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello!

Just as i thought!..........................Silence!

And these, are the sort of people that spoil the image of people arguing justifiably. I refuse to even address it directly. Someone asked why devs didn't just make others more popular instead of "punishing" others. If they are popular, it's obvious that they are too good making others too good also, will just end in a kill fest (more or less like a test server gameplay) . Instead, they slightly increased unpopular ones and decreased the popular ones. Some people may not like this as they probably didn't realise how OP there turret or hull was, and now it's being regulated they don't like it. Edited April 30, 2014 by MrTactics

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello!

Just as i thought!..........................Silence!

The silence on the issue hopefully is a sign that they're working on it.

Right now I imagine tanki guys and gals sitting around the meeting room table looking for solutions to this latest crisis.

 

Players are now too scared to spend real money. I mean, you wouldn't go into a shop to buy an apple if they're only selling lemons!

[MrTactics 219]

The silence on the issue hopefully is a sign that they're working on it.

Right now I imagine tanki guys and gals sitting around the meeting room table looking for solutions to this latest crisis.

 

Players are now too scared to spend real money. I mean, you wouldn't go into a shop to buy an apple if they're only selling lemons!

That's funny cause I'm buying today :)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

That's funny cause I'm buying today :)

Some players then. Read between the lines. Hope you don't end up with lemons.

Edited April 30, 2014 by AbsoluteZero

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Yes. Refund all turrets and hulls if there's gonna be a big rebalance like this. Just making the voice heard.

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Actually maybe that isn't such a good idea, since we will probably all have to wait for sales again.

 

Suggestion: give us the choice to refund up to something like 4 of our garage items?

[Solid-Granit 30]

You made glass tanks of Viking. Viking m2+ full microupdate and prodigi full microupdate, 

but drugged M3 railgun from 1 shooting kills. You ruined the game. 

On the stadium the life expectancy 10 seconds. No tactics, only idiotic child shooting. There is not a mood to a game :(

Only have bought, have bought, have bought. I hope so you go bankrupt in it it degrading!

 

 

We ask for it back old tank one, which was a game yet, not the money!

I would join the discussion about the video: we do not see something else, than Semjon and Kovtun guffaw at it, 

that oh we make it **** up now the people 80% who Vikings and Hornets they are useful.

 

Was for nobody forward written, a what kind of hulk he should buy. Why was crying then, that his weaker? He could have bought the stronger one!

Edited April 30, 2014 by Solid-Granit

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

And these, are the sort of people that spoil the image of people arguing justifiably. I refuse to even address it directly. Someone asked why devs didn't just make others more popular instead of "punishing" others. If they are popular, it's obvious that they are too good making others too good also, will just end in a kill fest (more or less like a test server gameplay) . Instead, they slightly increased unpopular ones and decreased the popular ones. Some people may not like this as they probably didn't realise how OP there turret or hull was, and now it's being regulated they don't like it.

Exactly what happened.

Instead of making turrets stronger and hulls weaker they should have gone the other way. I'd rather stay alive longer and kill less then to die every 10 secs.  NOT FUN. If I could stay alive longer, then I could use the best weapon I have MY BRAIN.  There is very little strategy now. More luck then anything.

Edited April 30, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[MrTactics 219]

Exactly what happened.

Instead of making turrets stronger and hulls weaker they should have gone the other way. I'd rather stay alive longer and kill less then to die every 10 secs. NOT FUN. If I could stay alive longer, then I could use the best weapon I have MY BRAIN. There is very little strategy now. More luck then anything.

The only people experiencing "instant death" are those who bought hornet and viking. However in my opinion, it is just because people aren't used to it being a normal hull now

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

The only people experiencing "instant death" are those who bought hornet and viking. However in my opinion, it is just because people aren't used to it being a normal hull now

Can you point to the Tanki page that specifies what "normal" is? You know, just so I won't feel robbed again. 

Edited April 30, 2014 by AbsoluteZero

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

This is my last post now for a while. I have decided not to play for the month of May in protest. I'll be back if tanki offers a positive solution to this saga but not if I find another game to spend my money on first.

Bye and adios. See you in June, maybe.

 

AbsoluteZero

Edited April 30, 2014 by AbsoluteZero

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

This is my last post now for a while. I have decided not to play for the month of May in protest. I'll be back if tanki offers a positive solution to this saga but not if I find another game to spend my money on first.

Bye and adios. See you in June, maybe.

 

AbsoluteZero

Maybe we should all do this. Maybe then they may pay attention. Unfortunately they wouldn't miss us because there will be hundreds, if not thousands of new unaware players joined up by June. The cycle starts again. LOL  Their silence speaks louder then words.