Update 254 — Balancing of Turrets and Hulls

[DARKWING228 1]

:o NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! There goes my perfect combination of Viking plus Thunder. Thanks a lot Tanki. All those crystals wasted :(

(at least I still have my Hunter on this acc but not on my other one. and I bet your going to create another update as soon as sales of Hunter are increased that'll nerf that as well. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:) 

Edited April 23, 2014 by DARKWING228

[r_Mia1 8,513]

I'm sorry but tanki online is a business. 

They earn their money through this game, the developers have families to feed, to give shelter etc.

We play this game for fun, if you want to spend money in it, spend it. If you want to earn crystals, earn it.

You have no right to order others to stop spending because of your opinions. Stop thinking of just yourself. 

Tankionline is the only MMO that I have found that isn't Pay to win. You can earn everything eventually. 

 

 

This maybe something stupid but how about putting advertisements on players accounts.. like.. all over it, and ask them to pay money to remove those advertisements like ALL OTHER MMOS DO

I think everyone will be happy with that. 

Not everyone is rich like you. We all know how big buyer you are.

But many of us hardly collect some money to buy crystals. And in the end it seem to be that we wasted those crystals for weakest turrets and hulls. You can't think of yourself only, not everyone is living a luxury life but they still wanna be good in this game because they love it so they pay. And these admins steal it. Is it fair to us? No, of course. To you, all is just fine because you are full, you can have anything you want, unlike many of us. So keep your smartness for yourself. We eat too, not only admins. They stealing from us for their sake. We are feeding their families and they can't listen to our single request!

 

Goodbye.

Edited April 23, 2014 by r_Mia1

[okfighter 331]

sure creator's of tanki ignore these awesome post's and the good feed back -_- that why you guy's do every time don't listen and change for the worst you guy's are saying that you guy's were working 'hard' for this well i say this is an poor excuse for this thing that you call rebalance -_- you guy's are making this game crappier you think doing this help's?? it doesn't i am using railgun i feel VERY cheated damage down but i can 1 shot every light?? wtf?? all you are doing is making the game easier for dumb people who bought hunter or something -_- you made the popular hull's and turret's swap with the least popular one NICE GOING! i hate this i wish that you guy's make it normal and LEAVE THE IDEA OF REBALANCE!! all the one's you did made this game less and less popular who thought of an rebalance?? WHO!!! i don't wan't this crappy game with crappy gun's -_- and for all who agrees with the 'rebalance' you have something wrong with you head sign* if i was owner i would LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE!! and not rebalance the first two where crap how do you think this will help tanki online make more money?? and tanki online 2.0 no one would care since the turret's and hull's are crappier now -_- nice job i hate to say this but you guy's have made this game 10x more crappier and you guy's did an VERY DUMB move!!!

People just don't like change do they? A rebalance is there to make the game even, so that people with certain weapons don't dominate, and so ones with other hulls and turrets can also enjoy the game and have a fair chance to influence it. People have seemed to become very selfish over this, yes it is only natural, but so what if hornet isn't quite as good now, as  it also forces you to be more thoughful about your gameplay ,and you can try out other hulls which you normally don't: and this is an important thing. And people calling a weapon "useless" is just wrong; no weapon is useless what matters most is your tactics and how you use it. Tanki hasn't made the best weapons "useless" they have made it so the best weapons are now no longer overpowered. This rebalance will may get people to alter there garages because their weapons are no longer "good enough" but this is perhaps not a bad thing.

Yes i know some people may downvote this but I'm only voicing my opinion.

Edited April 23, 2014 by okfighter

[HighwindsGDN 30]

yeahh this isn't a rebalance lol.  This is a shifting of whats good so poeple have to buy new stuff.  If anybody thinks twins is "balanced" your smoking something.  Dare I even say the game is more unbalanced now? 
 

[moshkinstein 142]

I am so upset what Tanki Dev's have done to Isida, I have now lost interest in the game.

I invested a lot of time in perfecting the Isida M3, with the Micro Upgrades. Now I feel it is all for nothing.

 

I am going to give the game a break for a while and I will be thinking whether to give up Tanki all together.

It is a great shame.

Edited April 23, 2014 by moshkinstein

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

What the devs are trying to do is not balance the game, but make the popular hulls/turrets worse than the equipment that is not. Here's an example: hornet was by far the most popular hull in the game. So what do the devs do? They make it awful and try to make its competitor wasp better. Yet, WASP IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HORNET (in m2 and m3), so more players will have to buy crystals to afford it! Its a scheme, hopefully a fairly obvious one to players. If this game needs money, why can't they just post advertisements here and have players pay to remove them, as one user said. It would be fairer that wrecking the game. 

[DARKWING228 1]

I remember when I first joined this game back in 2009 and it was perfect then. But then along came the first "Re-balance" and Tanki online's dev's quest for "Perfection" has effectively ruined the game. Listen to your players Tanki, we don't want much, we only want the old Tanki back

 

P.S. After each "Re-balance" FPS and lag is getting worse and worse. Before I was easily getting 40 FPS at the lowest but now I'm lucky to get 19 FPS. I can no longer control my tank and one of the reasons I got the Viking was because it was fast, but not so fast that it would be unplayable, it was well armoured. But now you've ruined it. It was supposed to be a heavy medium, that was the point of it, the Hunter was meant to be a light medium and the Dictator was meant to be in-between. But now you've ruined it

Edited April 23, 2014 by DARKWING228

[yovisnando 1]

bad everything , bye me thunder m4  :angry: 
254 actualización update bad :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

[HillBillyJim 75]

well after extensive playing...this is what i have found:

 

SMOKY: Useless unless you LIKE throwing whiffle balls at a humvee.

 

RICOCET: Ehh...Its ok

 

TWINS: so OP its not even funny

 

THUNDER: OK, so the range is increased. Woopty stinkin doo.

 

ISIDIA: Unchanged.

 

FREEZE: Seems OP now, i dunno

 

FIREBIRD: OK...this gun is wrecked. The afterburn is like 20 secs long, but the origional damage is low.

 

IMO, this update just made the game even MORE unbalanced. If it aient broke, dont fix it!

[spaced2013 26]

@Hezel-Rah (I assume you said what you said up there, if not please ignore this post or let me edit it!)

 

So this is for you too!

 

Hezel-Rah watch and learn how to reason!!! ;)

 

I know by saying this I am gonna come under huge rain of verbal abuse from my fellow tankers ...

 

But "when you gotta go you gotta go" right? ;)

 

* This is a business and tanki team go to work every morning, they need to brush their teeth, drink morning coffee (or vodka), have breakfast, and fill up their gas tanks, and so on. They depend on their work as all  the other people!

* On the other hand we come here to play, to have fun and we enjoy the game for free (most of the players) and some of us pay few dollars or Euros or whatever you pay to buy crystals to get advantage on fellow players.

* Did it ever came to your mind what will happen when Tanki guys will not have sufficient financial resources to keep this Free game online?

* How Tanki guys going to pay for that new Data center's bills in Netherlands?

* Did it ever occurred to you how they gonna pay OUR most precious English community BOSS Semyon's salary?

* They need to sell "things" to keep tanki rolling to save it (and of course to make a profit).

* So we need to find a way to Keep it going while we enjoy it and owners can go to work tomorrow (as Great Steve Jobs said).

:)

 

yes tanki is a buisness, yes they have to cover costs and earn a wage ect,,, but dont you think rather than screw over players/customers every few months it would be better

to spend that time adding new things we want to buy things that inprove the game, every 1  thing they inprove they fk up 40 others and  its not by mistake 

its just  to milk the players/customers with buying stuff they never wanted needed

 

its easier to keep screwing over players/customers like this every few months than to actually be creative

 

and you look at the size of the user base evan if only 5/10% are buyers thay are raking it in.

[Pistolcc 38]

settee

 

well after extensive playing...this is what i have found:

SMOKY: Useless unless you LIKE throwing whiffle balls at a humvee.

RICOCET: Ehh...Its ok

TWINS: so OP its not even funny

THUNDER: OK, so the range is increased. Woopty stinkin doo.

ISIDIA: Unchanged.

FREEZE: Seems OP now, i dunno

FIREBIRD: OK...this gun is wrecked. The afterburn is like 20 secs long, but the origional damage is low.

IMO, this update just made the game even MORE unbalanced. If it aient broke, dont fix it!

Was that at m3 on the test server? 

[Canadian_Bandit 81]

1. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL WAY OF TALKING BY ADMIN

2. YOU DESTROYED GAME ANYWAY, IT CAN'T BE MORE DESTROYED

3. SOON YOU WILL LOSE PLAYERS => YOU LOSE MONEY

4. STOP MAKING FOOLS OF US, IF YOU ASKING FOR FEEDBACK, THEN LISTEN OUR REQUESTS

5. YOU SHOULD MAKE GAME THE WAY WE ALL WISH IT TO BE, WE DON'T HAVE DIFFERENT WISHES, JUST WANT OLD TANKI BACK

 

Advice to all:

Stop giving a single CENT for this game. See how they gonna become good and listen to us and our requests. They want money, don't give it to them, because for them we are only fools.

I 100 percent agree with you the buck stops here

[HillBillyJim 75]

settee

 

 

Was that at m3 on the test server?

 

yup.

[Pistolcc 38]

When children draw a picture, you take it away from them when it is good so they cannot ruin it. Tanki Devs might learn from this principle. 


On the whole tankionline is still an interesting playing environment, if a little childish in comparison to WOT. 

The trouble is that I have just paid a lot of money for 350,000 crystals, perhaps more than I paid for a professionally finished playstation game.

This constant rebalancing is not fixing glitches, it is reducing advantages that have taken months to earn and enjoy. 

Now my isida hornet m3 combo is useless and I am being killed by previously weaker opponents. 

I cannot recommend this game to people who would pay for crystals, because in my experience I paid for peaches and they are turning into bananas.  

 

Edited April 23, 2014 by Pistolcc

[HillBillyJim 75]

^^very nice. frankly i was HAPPY with my smoky/wasp combo. i have been saving for monthsnow for a really good paint. now i might have to get a new weapon like thunder (i still refuse to spend the cash on this game)

[Oliwierr 0]

TWINS!!!

To strong - are you sure you decreased power? I almost couldn't kill (freez) with full drugs - simple (no drugs and the same hull)Twins guy -  I've used first aid becasue he almost killed me and at the end of life (afterd first aid added) I killed him.

 

Second think - DRUGS - means almost nothing now!!!2 guys without drugs kill me without problem (with paint against one of them!)

 

As I see - 90% will be mammoth with twins and will be problem to stop this guys - I seen it on one battle - 2 ppl with drugs and 2 without was killed this configuration with small problem.

 

In my opinion - you will loose drugs buyers (better for players, worse for you) and balance game will be only one or two ways

[HillBillyJim 75]

oh and did you guys REALLY increase fire speed on the smoky? didnt seem like that to me!

[Alidarklord 542]

TWINS!!!

To strong - are you sure you decreased power? I almost couldn't kill (freez) with full drugs - simple (no drugs and the same hull)Twins guy -  I've used first aid becasue he almost killed me and at the end of life (afterd first aid added) I killed him.

 

Second think - DRUGS - means almost nothing now!!!2 guys without drugs kill me without problem (with paint against one of them!)

 

As I see - 90% will be mammoth with twins and will be problem to stop this guys - I seen it on one battle - 2 ppl with drugs and 2 without was killed this configuration with small problem.

 

In my opinion - you will loose drugs buyers (better for players, worse for you) and balance game will be only one or two ways

look at twins , damage in max distance in m3

it's 25.2 for me with 1mu

in a good range twins can beat many tanks because of fast shoots

and unstopable with drugs

i dont know and cant understand how they call this rebalance !!

[didi1804 10]

if some one use twins full mu no one will beat him in dm 

it's true but MU of smoky is cheaper and need less time...

[Oliwierr 0]

look at twins , damage in max distance in m3

it's 25.2 for me with 1mu

in a good range twins can beat many tanks because of fast shoots

and unstopable with drugs

i dont know and cant understand how they call this rebalance !!

probably we will see new update soon :)

also light tanks can't move to twins becasue after hit light tank is turning :(

[Solid-Granit 30]

 

We, who we bought it the viking-thunder-progigi combo, onto nothing we did not carry out product development, but we stitch everything in this into him. VIking microupdate, prodigi microupdate, I would have bought it now it m3 as tower, but there is nothing already so, only a pensioner our disabled car. We believed in him that we will be hard still if we invest everything in this! This was seen from outside. We did not shoot many times no one the dm ben we collected money only, we sticked together because of this because this kombó never shot the other one.

 

 

himself it M2 es beginner who 300k idaig the microupdtaek + 700k and this all garbage.
There are nothing, this there was everything.

[r_Mia1 8,513]

I 100 percent agree with you the buck stops here

Thank you! Justice is wanted here -.-

[DARKWING228 1]

Cya everyone. I've decided to take an extended absence  from Tanki and concentrate on playing World Of Tanks instead (Tanki take note of what they're doing. In their updates they are actually improving the game and they have stuff that are actually worth buying with money)

 

P.S. someone please contact me once Tanki has actually started moving in the right direction again, so I can come back and play it (BTW my WOT name is ULTIMATEDESTROYER338 for those that are interested.)

Edited April 23, 2014 by DARKWING228

[UAV1997 48]

i've been using twins m2... could kill m3 and druggers quite easy,firebird too with a raw damage of 50 damage/s at m2! i can't really use any other gun cuz they've became useless at least for their M2...

And i saw mammoths everywhere! 6-7 in a 16 player map!

 

now doesnt matter with this,but about the advertisement thing,i dont agree,i'd hate seeing them AND being forced to pay to remove them.

also @legjanobb,remove that white thing,it hurts my eyes -.-

[knight237238 175]

Not everyone is rich like you. We all know how big buyer you are.

But many of us hardly collect some money to buy crystals. And in the end it seem to be that we wasted those crystals for weakest turrets and hulls. You can't think of yourself only, not everyone is living a luxury life but they still wanna be good in this game because they love it so they pay. And these admins steal it. Is it fair to us? No, of course. To you, all is just fine because you are full, you can have anything you want, unlike many of us. So keep your smartness for yourself. We eat too, not only admins. They stealing from us for their sake. We are feeding their families and they can't listen to our single request!

 

Goodbye.

true and another thing to I_AM_'LEGEND' take you money and shove it because you are an noob who buy's and doesn't play it the right way if they put in advertise ment i am ganna leave and then we will see how they get money -_- there is like only 2 rich brats who buy's insted of playing (that including you! 'i am legend') you are not much of an legend if you buy you're more like an spoilt brat who doesn't whan't to play this the right way -_- so shut up keep you're oppion's to you're self thing about other with out much money and stop being an d*ck who want's this game to be ruind p.p:a lot of people think this way about you and you're friend's probably are you're friend because you're rich -_- so stop this