Let's Discuss Isida!

[AliceTreatPU 92]

After microupgrade update, isida is more sweet :3

Specifically, its a new range parameter.

 

Before update, with skill, u can avoid being killed by

twin hammer freeze firebird n maybe thunder smoky by distance yourself from them.

While self healing, and killing them :3

Well as you know, these turret lose their effectiveness when shot at more long distance,

while on isida, their turret always maximum power when its beam connect.

For example, effective range twin is 15m, isida is 20+m :3 its possible.

Well, i use hunter isida, it can effectively distance from enemy due speed and slimness prevent it from kissing wall :3

and effectively survived from enemy attack due good health

also it can effectively kill popular hornet and effectively run n kill from popular viking. :3

 

After update, its more easier to do that :3

Just microupdating its range to 5 step, its already too good.

Even more I can effectively heal or attack in polygon hole and hide in arena wall,

to the point, make enemy surprised XD.

 

So what gonna happen if i full microupgrade isida range.

Its will be more than above

I looking forward for it.

 

And more comment about degree cone attack.

Now, isida is pro turret.

For beginner, its maybe hard to use.

For pro, its hard to use, but they can handle / overcome it :3

 

about range

Sure, isida is hit n miss now. About annoyance hehe.

For beginner, isida is no threat

For pro, is real demon hehe.

Yeah, the range is really something.

But isida damage is really low compared other short range weapon.

Isida 66, Firebird 72 :o, Freeze 80 :::OOO.

 

Isida is underpowered !!!

Edited May 23, 2015 by AliceTreatPU

[AliceTreatPU 92]

isida m1 is even worse than firebird m1

You maybe think

isida is the worse turret.

Yeah, as u considering

Damage is pretty low compared other.

But take consideration of why lot of tanker hate to deal isida :3

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

Isida 66, Firebird 72 :o, Freeze 80 :::OOO.

 

Isida is underpowered !!!

Nice Article, M'lady :3

 

none of the above can heal their friends, nor heal themselves xD

[kayitsiz 621]

Nice Article, M'lady :3

 

none of the above can heal their friends, nor heal themselves xD

Also none of them's maximum damage range is higher than twins, unless...

[Chameleos 157]

Isida 66, Firebird 72 :o, Freeze 80 :::OOO.

Might underline that once you're burning firebird has 102 dps ^^

[dfoofnik 341]

It might take more effort for an Isida to lock into 'ya, but when it does, it just won't let go!

Yes, and this concept of "20-25 meters range" (M3) makes them OP, especially reaching "down" or through objects, which projectiles cannot do.

They are "kill on sight" as far as I'm concerned, and if you get three or more, it is no longer a tank battle of any kind.

I say reduce the offensive power of isida in half, give any hull with it one-half its normal health, and make its range 5 meters (one tank length).

[Loackie 269]

Yes, and this concept of "20-25 meters range" (M3) makes them OP, especially reaching "down" or through objects, which projectiles cannot do.

They are "kill on sight" as far as I'm concerned, and if you get three or more, it is no longer a tank battle of any kind.

I say reduce the offensive power of isida in half, give any hull with it one-half its normal health, and make its range 5 meters (one tank length).

No you "buff" every turret but Isida. :P

[dfoofnik 341]

do not tell me your complaining could have easily avoided by an increase in skill, according to your vids...

That was me trying to video the Isida. :P I kept trying to replicate the green rope going all the way across the map at the start.

The red ropes were not as visible in this particular video. It has been fixed substantially but you know

that should have appeared in testing.

[dfoofnik 341]

No you "buff" every turret but Isida. :P

So then you can kill an enemy with half a shot? No, sirree. They have just tried to "sell" players on Isida for some reason.

[dfoofnik 341]

After microupgrade update, isida is more sweet :3

Specifically, its a new range parameter.

For example, effective range twin is 15m, isida is 20+m :3 its possible.

 

 

Isida is underpowered !!!

Uh, you're looking at damage, not range.

Twins at M2 is 70 meters, and with 2 MUs has the same kill power (~12-15) at max range,

Isida has 44, so has an advantage up close. The main idea has to be shoot Isida at range first. Some will continue to attack...futilely.

Edited May 24, 2015 by dfoofnik

[Leekh_A.forever 83]

Isida is nice , maybe one of the best weapon in my opinion.

 

It builds teamwork work with others by Healing. The best thing ever  :lol: 

[AliceTreatPU 92]

Uh, you're looking at damage, not range.

Twins at M2 is 70 meters, and with 2 MUs has the same kill power (~12-15) at max range,

Isida has 44, so has an advantage up close. The main idea has to be shoot Isida at range first. Some will continue to attack...futilely.

I maybe wrong, I based this from

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Twins

Which seem to be updated after recent balance.

 

Twin m3+ Damage is 17-19 per projectile

Range of max damage 15m

Range of min damage (m) 80m

Weak damage (%) 20%

 

I capture the understanding like this.

From range 0-15m Twin damage is 17-19 per projectile

From range 15m+ Twin damage is 20% from 17-19 per projectile so 3.4-3.8 per projectile.

 

I get that from consideration

m0 Weak damage (%) is 1%. and at m3+ Weak damage (%) is 20%.

Which increased from m0 to m3+

 

So, at 15m+ range. Twin is no treat.

Correct me if I wrong.

 

Some tips :3

Yeah, while twin attack me, isida aim often miss.

Drive backward stablize it. both in flat and slope terrain.

 

Now my isida range is 22m, can damage farthest enemy when enemy is at bottom enemy base and i on slope in noise :3

 

Now my strategy is wait for teammate attacked first. and launh suprise attack :3

That only way i can do to kill Dictator Titan Mammoth.

And higher chance at other hull :3

Edited May 24, 2015 by AliceTreatPU

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

I maybe wrong, I based this from

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Twins

 

first tip: dont trust the wiki, its out-dated xD

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was getting done here by a Titan Freeze M3 and a titan fire M2 and a mammy M2 Isida M3

 

luckily my Cardinal friend arrived and we beat em to it xD

There was a nug Isida that learned what to do when we was going to be over taken (was 242-240 when he got it .-. )

[Chameleos 157]

I maybe wrong, I based this from

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Twins

Which seem to be updated after recent balance.

 

Twin m3+ Damage is 17-19 per projectile

Range of max damage 15m

Range of min damage (m) 80m

Weak damage (%) 20%

 

I capture the understanding like this.

From range 0-15m Twin damage is 17-19 per projectile

From range 15m+ Twin damage is 20% from 17-19 per projectile so 3.4-3.8 per projectile.

 

I get that from consideration

m0 Weak damage (%) is 1%. and at m3+ Weak damage (%) is 20%.

Which increased from m0 to m3+

 

So, at 15m+ range. Twin is no treat.

Correct me if I wrong.

 

Some tips :3

Yeah, while twin attack me, isida aim often miss.

Drive backward stablize it. both in flat and slope terrain.

 

Now my isida range is 22m, can damage farthest enemy when enemy is at bottom enemy base and i on slope in noise :3

 

Now my strategy is wait for teammate attacked first. and launh suprise attack :3

That only way i can do to kill Dictator Titan Mammoth.

And higher chance at other hull :3

That 20% damage for twins is only at 80m, between 15 and 80m it should decrease linearly, at 20 maybe it is 90% damage or 80%

[Loackie 269]

So then you can kill an enemy with half a shot? No, sirree. They have just tried to "sell" players on Isida for some reason.

You. The Joke. WOOSH

(the joke went over your head)

Edited May 24, 2015 by Loackie

[2Fruit 3]

My favourite thing to do is just base camp in Noise with another Isida and sit on flag while everyone else attacks. Nothing gets passed us.

 

Once had 5 Isidas sitting in the base. The other team pretty much gave up towards the end.

 

I think they should double the range of Isida, let it shoot through walls, make the beam jump from enemy to enemy damaging them all, and do self healing when you heal other tanks. That, in my opinion, would create a very balanced game.

[Chameleos 157]

I think they should double the range of Isida, let it shoot through walls, make the beam jump from enemy to enemy damaging them all, and do self healing when you heal other tanks. That, in my opinion, would create a very balanced game.

How in Earth would that be balanced? It'd be so damn OP nobody would use anything different than Isida.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

How in Earth would that be balanced? It'd be so damn OP nobody would use anything different than Isida.

Sarcasm.

[ThunderM20 25]

Isida:

- Low range

- No Impact Force

+ In killing .. your HP is High and high

+ Healing team

Rating: 82% ... Very good

[Strawwitz 86]

On my new account I manage to evade and break away from an Isida, and wouldn't you know it , he fired again and the dang beam was hitting the ground and I blew up :(  :angry:  :blink: .*

 

I guess that failgun ability to totally noob miss, yet hit , is rubbing off on Isida. That might worry me.

 

 *And no it was not lag, I was running deep green/green on fps/ping.  

[AliceTreatPU 92]

first tip: dont trust the wiki, its out-dated xD

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was getting done here by a Titan Freeze M3 and a titan fire M2 and a mammy M2 Isida M3

 

luckily my Cardinal friend arrived and we beat em to it xD

There was a nug Isida that learned what to do when we was going to be over taken (was 242-240 when he got it .-. )

Nope The info at that wiki is updated one :)

But the link inside wiki maybe outdated

Like the link to microupdate is outdated one.

 

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Isida

Correctly displaying info after balance.

m3+

Damage (tick) 33 (per half sec)

Healing (tick) 33 (per half sec)

Range (m) 23

Cone angle (deg) 20

 

That battle must be refreshing one.

Its nice to win when at middle you lossing.

:3

That 20% damage for twins is only at 80m, between 15 and 80m it should decrease linearly, at 20 maybe it is 90% damage or 80%

Oh thanks for clearup. :3. That make sense.

I take back my word.

Twin is not have significant decrease damage at 20m+

Only frezze that can stop it from damaging. (Ruin their aim :3)

 

I have play teambattle againts generalismo in Polygon CP No drug pro battle.

3 of enemy using Mammoth twin combo.

from score 100 (me) vs 20 (enemy)

quicky change to 120 (me) vs 150 (enemy)

Then come freeze viking combo teammate.

That sure make twin aiming useless perfectly :3

The team and me win that match with score 200 (me) vs 175 (enemy)

Even not much, isida support definitely contribute to make team win

:3

Really hard to make point by healing heavy hull =_=

The bottom point, its nice to have freeze friend at your friend list

:3

Edited May 25, 2015 by AliceTreatPU

[dfoofnik 341]

My favourite thing to do is just base camp in Noise with another Isida and sit on flag while everyone else attacks. Nothing gets passed us.

 

Once had 5 Isidas sitting in the base. The other team pretty much gave up towards the end.

 

I think they should double the range of Isida, let it shoot through walls, make the beam jump from enemy to enemy damaging them all, and do self healing when you heal other tanks. That, in my opinion, would create a very balanced game.

Yeah. You rite. The new battle map is called Do Nothing or Die.

The only way to deal with Isida groups is a DD sniper shot to the one not wearing green. ;)

Edited May 25, 2015 by dfoofnik

[dfoofnik 341]

You. The Joke. WOOSH

(the joke went over your head)

I got mine cheap and almost never use it. Maybe Monte Carlo or supporting a sniper at Kungur. Other than that, I hunt them.

[dfoofnik 341]

I maybe wrong, I based this from

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Twins

Which seem to be updated after recent balance.

 

Twin m3+ Damage is 17-19 per projectile

Range of max damage 15m

Range of min damage (m) 80m

Weak damage (%) 20%

 

I capture the understanding like this.

From range 0-15m Twin damage is 17-19 per projectile

From range 15m+ Twin damage is 20% from 17-19 per projectile so 3.4-3.8 per projectile.

 

I get that from consideration

m0 Weak damage (%) is 1%. and at m3+ Weak damage (%) is 20%.

Which increased from m0 to m3+

 

So, at 15m+ range. Twin is no treat.

Correct me if I wrong.

 

Umm, okay. There is no fixed percentage.

Let's look at the upgrades chart (unless you don't have Twins). Twins has to have roughly the same power at mid-distance, or it's useless. Smoky, Railgun, Shaft, Thunder, Ricochet are not range-dependent, whereas Twins has to be separately upgraded.

 

My M3 = 16-18 damage per hit, exactly 17 at max range (for me 76 meters)

 

The difference is that it semi-homes like all other weapons except sniper shaft, and though you hit with one barrel, you could miss everything with the other one.

Edited May 25, 2015 by dfoofnik

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

Nope The info at that wiki is updated one :)

But the link inside wiki maybe outdated

Like the link to microupdate is outdated one.

 

I just dont trust that wiki anymore, most of the things I've seen are outdated