Let's Discuss Isida!

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Yes it is astounding how many high ranked players do not know how to best work with an isida.  

 

But some really do. Had a titan/thunder guy on Red Dawn. Planed a couple times at the enemy flag. He had great situation awareness. And titans are so nice to hide behind.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

Isida is OP. It needs to be nerfed. M0 can kill in like 2 seconds. (I timed it on my noob account by pressing delete so nobody dare give me anything). Once Isida starts attacking you, that's it. You can't kill it. It needs to gradually deal less damage, as it attacks. Right now I feel fire M1 and freeze M1 are weaker than the M0 of this turret. YES IT NEEDS A NERF !!!  :angry:  :lol:  :angry: 

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Isida is OP. It needs to be nerfed. M0 can kill in like 2 seconds. (I timed it on my noob account by pressing delete so nobody dare give me anything). Once Isida starts attacking you, that's it. You can't kill it. It needs to gradually deal less damage, as it attacks. Right now I feel fire M1 and freeze M1 are weaker than the M0 of this turret. YES IT NEEDS A NERF !!!  :angry:  :lol:  :angry:

 

Nahhh don't agree here... it has a number of disadvantages too. Very slow reload, once you attack you basically can only kill 1 person and wait for it to recharge. The damage is high because the reload is slow :p overall, I think it is quite balanced tbh... especially when compared to fire and freeze M1, they are definitely better :/

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Get better at what?! Once the Isida attacks you, it's over for you. And, I'll try and ignore the fact that you're just making a biased post. Since you like isida and would rather have it easier to kill people than not. 

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Post a proof video. And while your at it. Post a video showing you kill an Isida the same modification as you, and both of you are full health. Isida must be in range to attack and you can NOT use isida. Then say all that non-sense. 

Get better at playing and understanding Tanki. I do not find Isidas unkillable like you do. Why? Because I play well and you do not. You are most likely one of those players with little battlefiled awareness.. Those are teh people I kill in my Isida. Tankers that see the battlefield see the isida in time to shoot the Isida. That would seem to not include you. So you get killed. So get better.

 

I have read many many comments from you and I am unimpressed. Look at your leave battle fine idea. That's kill the game off because you have not been able to suss out how to fight Isidas. So much for your biased crap.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

Get better at playing and understanding Tanki. I do not find Isidas unkillable like you do. Why? Because I play well and you do not. You are most likely one of those players with little battlefiled awareness.. Those are teh people I kill in my Isida. Tankers that see the battlefield see the isida in time to shoot the Isida. That would seem to not include you. So you get killed. So get better.

 

I have read many many comments from you and I am unimpressed. Look at your leave battle fine idea. That's kill the game off because you have not been able to suss out how to fight Isidas. So much for your biased crap.

All I'm going to say, is I'm not going to acknowkedge you in any topics anymore. Your whole point is baised, probably because you like isida. Not to mention we're NOT the same rank, and you've never seen me play so you can't assume how good I am. Please don't waste your time replying cause I won't reply back.

 

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Nahhh don't agree here... it has a number of disadvantages too. Very slow reload, once you attack you basically can only kill 1 person and wait for it to recharge. The damage is high because the reload is slow :P overall, I think it is quite balanced tbh... especially when compared to fire and freeze M1, they are definitely better :/

Very slow reloading true. But it's also true, that once an isida starts attacking you cannot win. It sucks your HP to quickly for a player to respond. For example, if I use smoky to attack somebody from behind, they would have enough time to turn around and attack me back. With isida if I attack somebody they would not be able to turn around and respond. Very unlikely close to impossible, that the isida (at full health) would lose once it's already started the attack. It's OP, say what you want, but it's still OP. 

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

 

He just stated his opinion mate, no need to go all out at him ^_^

 

Valid points :) I get what you mean, when I was major or so, I hated isida for the fact that before it was available at M3 at brigadier.. just 3 ranks or so above me while I was still playing with my noob M2s :x drugs were also more OP before, and boom, isida was my worst enemy xD

 

Now I've bought isida, and it's at M3 and I can see why it was never nerfed much after they removed it's self healing. In Tanki Online, you can either play alone or with a team. Playing alone (in DM) means you kill someone, they die, and you probably get killed due to the slow reload. Playing in a team means, either healing (what it was meant for) or attack someone, and pretty much get killed after cos it is like you're without a turret by the long time it takes...

 

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Yes, I agree 100%, in a 1v1 close combat situation, if you are face to face with an isida with all else (modification, drugs) being equal... well goodluck :x But then again, there are other situations where isida sucks.. Range is quite small, plus even healing sometimes, when you're on a ramp, the angle is so small..

I wouldn't really call it OP... more like, it's a specialty ;) really good in one thing, but quite bad in others, where overall it's balanced. Same with all other turrets, in my opinion this is the best way of creating turrets, a bit of diversity :D But yes, I do see your point too :)

 

PS, sorry it's long, with all the 'essays' I'm writing, at this rate I'm gonna be offered a reporter job -_-

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

PS, sorry it's long, with all the 'essays' I'm writing, at this rate I'm gonna be offered a reporter job -_-

Please do. We need better reporters.

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Please do. We need better reporters.

Oh wow :lol: come on, I'm bored so much after they skipped one, can't wait for the new issue ;)

 

But if you're actually serious, I suggest you contact the reporter admin and tell him why you think that... I'm sure your suggestions will be greatly appreciated if you tell him politely :D

[LittleWillie 3,199]

He just stated his opinion mate, no need to go all out at him ^_^

 

Nope he did not. He stated I am being dishonest merely because Iuse Isida as one of my 4 active turrets.  Accuse me of being dishonest and I give back tenfold.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Very slow reloading true. But it's also true, that once an isida starts attacking you cannot win. It sucks your HP to quickly for a player to respond. For example, if I use smoky to attack somebody from behind, they would have enough time to turn around and attack me back. With isida if I attack somebody they would not be able to turn around and respond. Very unlikely close to impossible, that the isida (at full health) would lose once it's already started the attack. It's OP, say what you want, but it's still OP. 

If a Freeze attacks you from behind, are you able to turn around and fight back?

 

If you are using a smoky to attack from behind, and they turn around and kill you - you are using it wrong.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

If a Freeze attacks you from behind, are you able to turn around and fight back?

 

If you are using a smoky to attack from behind, and they turn around and kill you - you are using it wrong.

I consider being directly behind my foe with my Smoky muzzle about 10cm from the foes turret to be a very effective range. Rarely miss.

 

If I ambush you from behind with my Smoky I will bounce your tank around like a Smurf in a paint shaker. If I ambush you from behind with my Isida you ability to maneuver is unaffected. In either case you die but my Smoky tank probably is not scratched. The Isida might be.

 

To return to the point of the thread.  The Isida design is good as it is right now after about 4 failed tries. Do not redesign the concept again please. Now on the other hand.  when the next big re-balancing tweak comes along maybe Isida will get some parameter tweaks. Parameter tweaks OK, new design concept not OK.

 

And no turret or hull shoild be fiddled with until the 7-Overdrive system has been running for a good long while. That is going to change everything.

Edited August 20, 2017 by LittleWillie

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

This turret requires no skill.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

This turret requires no skill.

Let's rock then pildrim. I'll "no skill" you into the stone age.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

IMO freeze is much better than isida. Apart from the obvious freezing effect it has a large tank so you can shoot for quite a long time. Freeze M4 is super strong, but I don't feel confident using short range weapons unless it's polygon.

[omarhero1 401]

Freeze M4 is capable of taking out a bunch of M4 hulls in no time without suffering any damage in return. 

A lethal turret indeed

Edited August 23, 2017 by omarhero1

[splitterpoint 10,986]

And it's so silent, you'll be dead before you know it.

[dragonssk1 334]

Has anyone tried the Support Nanobots alleration for Isida m3? Is it good? And also my strongest turrent is isida m3 with 16/20 mus. Its a solid weapon and i love playing island, hill, polygon and sandbox battles and cp

[omarhero1 401]

This alteration is the worst so far, i'd rather you upgrade it to M4 than buy that useless alt.

[NamesAreForNoobs 324]

Has anyone tried the Support Nanobots alleration for Isida m3? Is it good? And also my strongest turrent is isida m3 with 16/20 mus. Its a solid weapon and i love playing island, hill, polygon and sandbox battles and cp

 

It is great for sustained healing but it's really bad for anything offence (Never, ever use it in DM). If you have a problem with keeping teammates alive because your energy has run out often then this will fix it, however the most important thing I would guess is that you need to stay alive for a long enough time to actually use up your enlarged energy pool, it sounds like a great boost if you are hiding in the burrow in the center of Polygon CP but to survive longer in the small 3v3 or 4v4 maps I would strongly suggest a heavy hull (It still might not work out because you die to fast in those, but I haven't tried it or seen much of it tbh). My advice to you is to rent it, it either costs you 5k or saves you 95k. If you like it you should definitely buy it on a sale though.

[Benefactor 6,888]

This turret requires no skill.

Try it without turning your turret. With what you said, you should finish top-2 in any battle using Isida.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Well it might probably be the easiest turret to use when you consider the amount of XP it's giving you. Sure there's some minor teamplay things you should consider and a bit of strategy but if you can sit in the base and turn the turret you're half-way there if not more; and the XP will rain in. 

[BloodandAshes 0]

I have it but its booooring after a few weeks. It is popular because its cheap.

It's not THAT cheap :P

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Try it without turning your turret. With what you said, you should finish top-2 in any battle using Isida.

Why would I want to do that? The way to play the turret well is to be able to keep on target despite doing violent maneuvers. I generally finish well but the goal of a team battle is for the team to win not for me to finish in any particular spot. In fact in order t play Isida with skill you have to often be willing to just get slammed ove and over in order to help a team mate.  People who do not see this game as anything but my tank vs that tank over there will never "get" this point.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Well it might probably be the easiest turret to use when you consider the amount of XP it's giving you. Sure there's some minor teamplay things you should consider and a bit of strategy but if you can sit in the base and turn the turret you're half-way there if not more; and the XP will rain in. 

That your concept of Isida play is to sit at the base with one hand on your socks simple shows that you do not understand the role of this turret at all.  I make more decision per minute of game play with an Isida than any other turret. It is not even close. That is what gaming is about... it is mental process the player who makes the most good decisions wins.  Isida requires decision-making constantly.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

That your concept of Isida play is to sit at the base with one hand on your socks simple shows that you do not understand the role of this turret at all.  I make more decision per minute of game play with an Isida than any other turret. It is not even close. That is what gaming is about... it is mental process the player who makes the most good decisions wins.  Isida requires decision-making constantly.

If you tell me that I don't know how to use the turret, than how am I in the top charts most of the time with this thing?

Getting XP for healing is the simplest way to earn crystals.