Let's Discuss Micro-Upgrades!

[Baby_Sam 614]

About the first 10 steps, do you mean any parameter of the weapon?

That is a function of the sale in effect. For example, if you have free speedups, then you can spend all you can on MUs and get instant upgrades for free. Usually, the first few steps are cheap, but their speedup is expensive, so even when it is deeply discounted it is still greater than the discount you are offered. For those, I do not wait for a sale. They are cheap and the steps are bigger, so you can start benefiting right away rather than waiting for a month or whatever to save 500 crystals. I gave an example, which actually did not apply to the previous sale, but it shows you how to calculate whether it is worth it to wait for the sale or not.

[DireFlyer 454]

does MUing your weapon all the way cost the same as buying m1/m2/m3?

[Baby_Sam 614]

does MUing your weapon all the way cost the same as buying m1/m2/m3?

It costs about twice or more, especially if you use speedups.

[Papaya14 481]

does MUing your weapon all the way cost the same as buying m1/m2/m3?

Let's take an example Wasp M1. See the data here.

 

In total the upgrade cost for ALL parameters (protection, speed, power, etc) comes to 205,399 crystals. With speed-ups that comes to 673,995 crystals.

 

Wasp M2 is 102,700 crystals, but you wait until Colonel.

 

Make your choice.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Papaya14

[Baby_Sam 614]

We used to get these for free. Now we have to pay.

 

• Ricochet – projectile speed
• Isida – range
• Shaft – penetrating power
• Smoky – reload time and range

I am already upgrading two of them.

[J.G.S.D.F 73]

We used to get these for free. Now we have to pay.

 

• Ricochet – projectile speed
• Isida – range
• Shaft – penetrating power
• Smoky – reload time and range

I am already upgrading two of them.

We can expect that this would happen to the other turrets, and hulls, later. At the end, only stocking up crystals will become usless; to be buyers is what they want. I feel that it is not the time to think which hull and turret to be used in the future; it is time to think should I still play this game.

[DatSniperGuy 23]

The primary focus of this topic is crystals, i'd like to just clarify that

 

 

Ok, so recently i've been Micro Upgrading my M2 Rail, almost to full damage. But as i approach... um... the rank above brigadier... yeah so as i approach that i realised that i need to buy legend and im broke.

 

So i am going to compare the advantages of MU'ing to the Disadvantages and i want your opinion also

 

ADV: Better chance of survival, Faster Flag Captures, easier to kill 1v1, increases longlivety of paints

 

DisADV: Very costly, can actually stop players from getting the appropriate gun for thier rank due to lack of crystals, players will very rarely be able to afford kits of they Micro Upgrade

 

So please discuss, as im wondering whether to knock the Micro Upgrade thing on the head or keep it up :/

 

As always, thanks :)

[dilsharox 2,395]

u need to compare it with price

for example if the ampunt of crys spent on fully MUing fire m2 is equal to the price of fire m3 then it would not be a waste

[Bloedmannsgehilfe 0]

We used to get these for free. Now we have to pay.

 

• Ricochet – projectile speed
• Isida – range
• Shaft – penetrating power
• Smoky – reload time and range

I am already upgrading two of them.

In the German forum we have a discussion about the issue for 3 days and roughly 100 posts. The offical statement from Tanki Online is that the values given in the Wiki for M3+ were not correct for all parameters. For example the reload time of the Smoky M3 was the same as the M3+. We have doubts about this but cannot proof it anymore. I read at several posts that the reload time was coupeled to the damage before the update. Can somebody proof this? If this wasn't the case, the update will change the weapon balance drastically, since M3+ is now roughly 10% stronger (compared reload times) then before.

[Baby_Sam 614]

In the German forum we have a discussion about the issue for 3 days and roughly 100 posts. The offical statement from Tanki Online is that the values given in the Wiki for M3+ were not correct for all parameters. For example the reload time of the Smoky M3 was the same as the M3+. We have doubts about this but cannot proof it anymore. I read at several posts that the reload time was coupeled to the damage before the update. Can somebody proof this? If this wasn't the case, the update will change the weapon balance drastically, since M3+ is now roughly 10% stronger (compared reload times) then before.

They could have fixed it to make it conform to the specifications.

 

This is very difficult to prove. The easiest way is if someone had a M3+ Isida and can tell whether its range is 20.88 or 23. Tell your people. Someone may be able to do that. The explanation though does not sound believable.

 

Thanks for letting us know about this.

[Maf 32,300]

 

Topics merged.

[Bloedmannsgehilfe 0]

They could have fixed it to make it conform to the specifications.

 

This is very difficult to prove. The easiest way is if someone had a M3+ Isida and can tell whether its range is 20.88 or 23. Tell your people. Someone may be able to do that. The explanation though does not sound believable.

 

Thanks for letting us know about this.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=263558&p=4671727

[Baby_Sam 614]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=263558&p=4671727

That was what I expected, because it would not have made sense any other way.

 

Maybe they can add a parameter for projectile color or Isida beam color, etc. later. :P

[stanzhang 3,291]

That was what I expected, because it would not have made sense any other way.

 

Maybe they can add a parameter for projectile color or Isida beam color, etc. later. :P

that would be confusing

[Baby_Sam 614]

that would be confusing

You have to pay to confuse your enemies and friends. :)

[thebrightone_online 0]

the upgrade time is way too long come on 12 hrs  for a damage upgrade thats crazy and i hate you can only upgrade one thing from the hull and the cannons 

 

[Baby_Sam 614]

the upgrade time is way too long come on 12 hrs  for a damage upgrade thats crazy and i hate you can only upgrade one thing from the hull and the cannons 

You can pay to make it shorter or instantaneous. :P Train yourself to be patient. It is useful throughout your life. :)

[tanker0511 7]

MU became more powerful as recent updates realeased, and I greatly benefited from it becaused I fully MUed damage of my railgun m0 at staff sergent. So I was 1 shotting every wasps and hornets I saw these days, and I Immediatly bought rail m1 at a 30% discount after ranking to WO3. Now I am looking forward to fully MU the damage of my rail m1, so I could be more effective in the battlefield! Therefore, I think micro upgrading is worth its cost, especially if fully upgraded.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

My Railgun MU status so far:

 

Which full stat to upgrade/focus next? Penetration power, Impact or more damage? Pls advise! :)

Edited July 24, 2015 by Phoenix.Rising

[Baby_Sam 614]

MU became more powerful as recent updates realeased, and I greatly benefited from it becaused I fully MUed damage of my railgun m0 at staff sergent. So I was 1 shotting every wasps and hornets I saw these days, and I Immediatly bought rail m1 at a 30% discount after ranking to WO3. Now I am looking forward to fully MU the damage of my rail m1, so I could be more effective in the battlefield! Therefore, I think micro upgrading is worth its cost, especially if fully upgraded.

I disagree with that. Full upgrade is only useful if it takes forever to get to the rank necessary for the next modification, e.g. from First Lieutenant to Commander or something like that. It takes months or over a year to get there, but, at your rank, it is a waste of crystals. For 40% of the cost, you could have upgraded it 75% of the way up, or for 9% of the cost upgraded it halfway.

[rothro3 50]

My Railgun MU status so far:

 

Which full stat to upgrade/focus next? Penetration power, Impact or more damage? Pls advise! :)

If you are really good at pulling of double shots, then I would say Penetrating power.  Fully MUed means you lose zero damage when shooting through other tanks.  Impact force is good if you like to flip your opponents.  Otherwise, damage is the parameter you can fall back on.  Tip: When you get to the point of MUing your rotation speed, do one parameter, than play with it.  If you want it quicker, than get the next one.  Go till it gets harder to aim at long range, then stop.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

If you are really good at pulling of double shots, then I would say Penetrating power.  Fully MUed means you lose zero damage when shooting through other tanks.  Impact force is good if you like to flip your opponents.  Otherwise, damage is the parameter you can fall back on.  Tip: When you get to the point of MUing your rotation speed, do one parameter, than play with it.  If you want it quicker, than get the next one.  Go till it gets harder to aim at long range, then stop.

Thank you for your insight. I will probably MU more at the end of the year ^^

[robbie56 2,403]

MU's are so Expensive , I want to make the damage of my M3 Thunder M4 , not there yet , and already spend like 150k crystals.

[Baby_Sam 614]

My Railgun MU status so far:

 

Which full stat to upgrade/focus next? Penetration power, Impact or more damage? Pls advise! :)

I do not like the way you are doing it. If you intend to upgrade all the stats since there is no future modification that you can get for that turret, don't go all the way on one parameter and then go to the next parameter. Go half the way on all the parameters and then start doing full on the ones that make more sense and so on until you are done. That way you have the most value the longest time.

[Baby_Sam 614]

MU's are so Expensive , I want to make the damage of my M3 Thunder M4 , not there yet , and already spend like 150k crystals.

It costs about that much on a 50% upgrade sale.