Let's Discuss Micro-Upgrades!

[ghost-guns 1,486]

np

 

 

Do you think the X-Mas sale will be 50% off MUs?

Micro-upgrades often take 12 hours or more so I don't see the point unless you do immediate updates, but that will cost a lot so what's the point in the sale?

 

The game is too expensive now and I can't be bothered.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

^ I think that would work if you are not at that rank yet. Once you already have the item that is part of a kit, you have to pay for it again anyway.

If you have the item in a kit already then the cost for that is deducted from the total price, same qith if you fully mu the item before(example: kit has m2 freeze while you have m1 freeze full mu so you get free m2 freeze)

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

If you have the item in a kit already then the cost for that is deducted from the total price, same qith if you fully mu the item before(example: kit has m2 freeze while you have m1 freeze full mu so you get free m2 freeze)

 

answer to the question below too

 

 

I have a question; Now that if you max your micro upgrade for a tank or hull, you get the other upgrade for free sxo will that apply also to kits? For example, if I maxed my titan m1 and get now I can get m2 for free but im not at that specific rank to get it yet, will getting a kit with m2 titan have lower price since il get m2 titan for free? OR do I still have to pay also for the m2 titan?

[Baby_Sam 614]

If you have the item in a kit already then the cost for that is deducted from the total price, same qith if you fully mu the item before(example: kit has m2 freeze while you have m1 freeze full mu so you get free m2 freeze)

That is not what I saw. If you have an item already, it is just not included in the savings, but the price of the kit stays the same (including whatever sales active). I do not think that changed. Say I have the paint and hull, what is the point in offering me a kit discount on a turret? It is not a kit.

[PTN_PD1 0]

The new upgrade systems sucks. Now you can't make your ovn , unique tank... . Thats make a game less atractive. Sorry guys, but that's true. That disapoint me.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

That is not what I saw. If you have an item already, it is just not included in the savings, but the price of the kit stays the same (including whatever sales active). I do not think that changed. Say I have the paint and hull, what is the point in offering me a kit discount on a turret? It is not a kit.

 

Iv seen ot too. The firefly kit thats in the early ranks with wasp, firebird m1 and carbon was X crystals. I bought firebird m1 without kit then it was X-7300 crystals.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Paint MU is biggest fail

 

 

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if you want to fully MU a paint, It will take 2 years to get it. as the last 10% add to MU will cost another 58 183 min (40 days)

 

My old Needle fully MU the hard way one step by one step in 2014 only took me 1 year and 400k. now, free user expect to pay same 400k, but have to wait 2 years to Max it.

 

reference link

 

http://ru.tankiwiki.com/index.php?title=Микропрокачки_краски_«Тина»&oldid=250543

 

http://ru.tankiwiki.com/Микропрокачки_краски_«Тина»

 

Im just guessing here, but im pretty sure that most people dont wait 2 months for a sale to happen so they can upgrade thinga.

 

 

 

Also, at the top you said more people would have paints than turrets. Well there are only 11 turrets and....well alot more paints. And your complaining that it takes LONGER to upgrade, so wouldent that make people go for turrets instead? Some of your logic is not logical.

[QueenSeraphina 407]

How many steps should I MU my Twins M3 to get the greatest bang for crystals? Out of 50? (I think it's a foolish thing to full MU it-There's practically no true sale after calculations. Only thing if I'm getting it straight m4, it saves on waiting time.)

 

Pls help :(

Edited November 20, 2015 by QueenSeraphina

[swede1 1,726]

Let's just put the cost of micro upgrades into some context, a free to play player will earn aprox. 1,200,000 +\- from recruit to generalissimo without purchasing crystals, while one turret to M4 costs 1,300,000+\- excluding any MUs of lower modifications.

That's no hulls, no paints, no turrets.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Let's just put the cost of micro upgrades into some context, a free to play player will earn aprox. 1,200,000 +\- from recruit to generalissimo without purchasing crystals, while one turret to M4 costs 1,300,000+\- excluding any MUs of lower modifications.

That's no hulls, no paints, no turrets.

Good deal.  :rolleyes:

[dejogenije 0]

I just wanted to use discount on mu and pay to upgrade my viking m3 from 47 to 48 and pay speed up and nothing happened and cry gone....I log off and login and do same again and upgrade,but i want my 25-30000 cry paying before back.

[dfoofnik 341]

WRONG INFO DISPLAYED ON VULCAN UPGRADE

On the "new total upgrades" menu, it shows the RELOAD TIME GOING UP, not down! :wacko:

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

WRONG INFO DISPLAYED ON VULCAN UPGRADE

On the "new total upgrades" menu, it shows the RELOAD TIME GOING UP, not down! :wacko:

What it means is how long it can fire before overheating.

[captree 3]

So if I had fully upgraded JUST the damage on my turrets all the other specs. would have been fully upgraded for free ??

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

So if I had fully upgraded JUST the damage on my turrets all the other specs. would have been fully upgraded for free ??

yup

[Baby_Sam 614]

The micro-upgrade update, in line with silly or irritating recent updates, made it useless to upgrade M0, M1, and M2, and made it confusing and frustrating to upgrade M3 equipment.

 

This update included 4 things:

• Made each upgrade step upgrade all parameters,
• Because of that and to make it less costly to do one step of upgrade, made the upgrade steps about twice as many,
• Because of that and to spite players, made the 50 or whatever upgrade steps about the same amount,
• Made the speedup cost equal to half the step cost to encourage you to buy speedups since nobody buys them.

 

Previously, you used to have step 1 the cheapest and the biggest. It is still the cheapest but it is equal to every other step. That made it useless to upgrade M0-M2 equipment. You used to be able to upgrade it halfway (by amount) for about 10% of the total cost, which was very cost effective. Now to upgrade halfway, it costs you about 25% of the complete upgrade. That is half the cost of the next mod. As you continue, it gets worse.

 

There is no longer partial discount when you buy the next mod because of upgrade. Now, it's all or nothing. If you upgrade it fully, you get the next mod for free. Otherwise, you get no discount (except that for having other turrets of the same mod).

 

There is much less incentive to do a partial upgrade. It is a lot more expensive and lot less useful, because you upgrade parameters you do not care about. Why would sane person pay to reduce the reload time of something from say 0.5 seconds to 0.48 seconds?

 

I used to advise people to do the first few upgrades even for an M0 item. I now advise against it. I am even confused when it comes to upgrading M3 equipment. There is no longer enough incentive for you to do that. You wouldn't feel any difference until you pay a few hundred thousand crystals.

 

This is a stupid update. TO can only benefit from the naivety of the players. It goes inline with TO strategy of making it tedious, boring, and irritating for free players to continue.

 

I never expressly shared the opinion that Tanki is dying, but it is obviously getting worse and worse. The problem with that is that you can keep getting worse even after you hit zero. When you hit negative infinity, you can still go to negative two infinity and so on.

 

Tanki needs a smart manager at the helm, or it is going to be miserable, even with the most naive and clueless players in the world.

Edited November 22, 2015 by Baby_Sam

[dfoofnik 341]

What it means is how long it can fire before overheating.

Umph. I get it. I was thinking that was the "cool down" time after you overheat. That would probably be important, too.

[Benefactor 6,888]

The title should be changed to "Let's talk about The Bundled Upgrade: Should I Fold Or Go All In?"

[Baby_Sam 614]

You should only upgrade M3 equipment and paints.

 

You should only do that when you have all the useful protective paints that you will ever want. This is more important than useless upgrades.

 

Once you have all the protective paints you will ever want, get all the M3 turrets and hulls you will ever want.

 

After all that, if you do not want to spend your crystals on drugs, upgrade the paints and equipment that you use most.

 

Do the upgrades according to your use.

 

For example, if you use Rico 50% of the time, Isia 30% of the time, Fire 20% of the time, upgrade:

 

Rico 5 steps, Isida 3 steps, Fire 2 steps, and so on.

[swede1 1,726]

You should only upgrade M3 equipment and paints.

 

You should only do that when you have all the useful protective paints that you will ever want. This is more important than useless upgrades.

 

Once you have all the protective paints you will ever want, get all the M3 turrets and hulls you will ever want.

 

After all that, if you do not want to spend your crystals on drugs, upgrade the paints and equipment that you use most.

 

Do the upgrades according to your use.

 

For example, if you use Rico 50% of the time, Isia 30% of the time, Fire 20% of the time, upgrade:

 

Rico 5 steps, Isida 3 steps, Fire 2 steps, and so on.

upgrading five steps is useless, just for 3 or 4 pieces of equipment, even upgrading paints 4 or 5 stages will take yrs in the game, losing most of the time, or spend several $100s dollars, even with premium acc. It would take a year or more.

You can buy all the supplies you need with funds you can earn in battle and virtually be using an M4 at will, and win the lion share of battles every day.

The only players who will get any benifit from MUing are the addicted buyers willing to spend $1000s to get what? An extra win now and then, and only if you have a team of other major buyers. Total waste of money. A team of M3 using supplies will WR3K a full M4 buyer if he/she doesn't have an active group of M4 players, then they are just throwing their money away.

[Baby_Sam 614]

upgrading five steps is useless, just for 3 or 4 pieces of equipment, even upgrading paints 4 or 5 stages will take yrs in the game, losing most of the time, or spend several $100s dollars, even with premium acc. It would take a year or more.

You can buy all the supplies you need with funds you can earn in battle and virtually be using an M4 at will, and win the lion share of battles every day.

The only players who will get any benifit from MUing are the addicted buyers willing to spend $1000s to get what? An extra win now and then, and only if you have a team of other major buyers. Total waste of money. A team of M3 using supplies will WR3K a full M4 buyer if he/she doesn't have an active group of M4 players, then they are just throwing their money away.

I think my advice is the best you can do under the current conditions. Currently 5 steps are about equivalent to 1 or 2 steps from the past.

 

You have to note that there is going to be no "real" MU sales, so you will never actually need to buy speedups. The other point is that, you should never wait for a sale. You have to eat the bullet that now MUs cost double what they used to cost, and you will need two years to fully upgrade one item or at most two. The bright side though, is that there is no real incentive to fully upgrade anything, so you can take 10 years to do it. :)

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

I say that the update SUCKS. Though you people saying it completly ruined mu-ing, your wrong. I like to upgrade all my equipment at tue same time, so haveing mu-s helps, as i dont want to spend over 10k just to upgrade a turret/hull i dont lik too much/ a turret im not skilled with but iim training with ot to be better. And i dont play tanki everyday for several hours, so the wait time does not effect me very much, though now i need to spend 2k just to upgrade my m1 firebird the third level. The numbers work out so that the price is the same as doing it all at once, but now im taking HUGE chuncks out of my cry. Before it didnt seem like i used very much bit now im almost never over 1000. I liked mu. So much effort and cry to upgrade something the same amount as before. I used to just upgrade damage, range, and reaload in turrets. Now i need to upgrade the sh**ty paramaters too that never effect me at all in battles too. Now when i mu a item 50% i dont even get discount so i need to finish mu-ing.....

 

 

 

DEVELOPERS: TAKE AWAY THE RECENT UPDATE OR DECREASE TIME AND CRY WHILE MAKEING MORE LEVELS FROM 50 TO 150 INSTEAD AND MAKE DISCOUNTS AFTER EVERY 15 LEVELS!

 

 

PREFFERIBLY REMOVE UPDATE!

[bossman161 276]

Equate the total cost of Mu'ing to the actual cost of the next modification (unless if it's a M3 then make muing slightly expensive)

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

mu-ing should be slightly cheaper than buying it at once...does anyone agree with me? I think that all the time waiting should at least save SOME crystals. im mu-ing my dictator right now only because it was already 50% upgraded so its not worth it to buy m all at once. iv dont the math though, and if i never use speedups, it will take a month foe me to get to m1.. so now i need to do 2 upgrades a day and im not sire if it will be cheaper in the end or not... that is why mu-ing should really be cheaper, all the waiting feom it will end up makeing it useless by the time it is done mu-ing and i will need to buy m2 anyways...

[Drunk 29]

Should be called "macro-upgrade" now.