Let's Discuss Micro-Upgrades!

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Well, this is not my first account if that's what your asking, but it is my main one, i.e. the one I spend the most time on and use for the forum.

 

This is my 5th account.

 

2 I forgot the password to, 1 got hacked, and 1 is lower ranked than this.  I have created 9 accounts, but as I said, I don't play anymore on the first 4 I made.  My sixth account is Hunter m2 Shaft m2, my 7th, 8th, and 9th are all very low rank.

 

P.S. Why does it look like this is my main account? I have only one combination and no other m1s or m2s.

Edited November 11, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Although I don't think I would have ever foreseen the swap of Hunter and Viking.

Funny thing is they swapped Hunter and Viking weights already about a year ago.. then everone felt that Viking is far better (which it was, especially as they increased most impact forces and Vulcan could make Hunters spin around). Almost all players preffered Viking over Hunter during this period. Now they swapped it back.. no comment.

 

 

Unrelated question for BlackWasp777 and I_already_won. You guys alts or are those your mains? Ratings page looks like mains but I could be wrong...

My highest ranked account is a Legend; but I play the BlackWasp777 account most.

What makes you think BlackWasp is my main?

Edited November 11, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[CooperO 7,956]

Microupgrades are pointless in my opinion and just a way for tanki to make you spend crystals. I reguarly get destroyed by tankers with no microupgrades or even M2 equipment because they are drugging non-stop. If anyone reading this is thinking of microupgrading then seriously, don't bother. My tank is almost M4 and it counts for nothing.

Topic merged.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Checking - yep this is where that other thread went. :D

Edited November 12, 2016 by austen_pierce

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Funny thing is they swapped Hunter and Viking weights already about a year ago.. then everone felt that Viking is far better (which it was, especially as they increased most impact forces and Vulcan could make Hunters spin around). Almost all players preffered Viking over Hunter during this period. Now they swapped it back.. no comment.

 

 

My highest ranked account is a Legend; but I play the BlackWasp777 account most.

What makes you think BlackWasp is my main?

.

 

I'm learning to like the new Viking. I've found that I have to use the recoil from my turret to steer though bc Viking's steering is now non-existent. Tried Dictator but way too slow. Hunter was ok but still feels lumbering. Plus my Viking is M4 - I'd have to start over with the other med hulls.

 

You have a variety of turrets and hulls. Usually alts are restricted to one or two combos. But you speak like an experienced player, so I'm not surprised you're an alt.

 

What's your main? PM if you don't want to disclose openly.

Edited November 12, 2016 by austen_pierce

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I'm learning to like the new Viking. I've found that I have to use the recoil from my turret to steer though bc Viking's steering is now non-existent. Tried Dictator but way too slow. Hunter was ok but still feels lumbering. Plus my Viking is M4 - I'd have to start over with the other med hulls.

 

You have a variety of turrets and hulls. Usually alts are restricted to one or two combos. But you speak like an experienced player, so I'm not surprised you're an alt.

Good that you are starting to get along with it - and your comment on the steering is great :D

I actually dno't know, why the fast+medium hulls have been made so slow.. before the update I saw already quite a lot of heavies around.. so obviously their speed was ok for the users.

 

---

 

My varietly of hulls and turrets.. well.. my final setups that I plan for are:

• M3 Wasp/Rail
• M3 Viking+Isida/Twins
• M3 Titan+Isida/Twins
• Maybe a Smoky later on.. lets see

 

Firebird M1 came with the Firefly kit, which was planned. It granted me early access to Wasp M1 - and Fire M1 aided my well in order to win some CTF vs. beginners, in order to earn well and rank fast.

 

Thunder M0 was just an experiment in the beginning, to see if it handels the M0 Deathmatches better then Rail M0 - but Railgun suited me better.  The Hornet M0.. well.. a friend asked me to 1-1 him. As I beat him, he blamed my Wasp M1 to be the reason and I shoud equip Hornet. I told him I have none (which was true by the time).. and so he asked me to purchase one :P  It was just a few crystals and made someone happy ;)

 

I'm a little p**ed that after the update the Hunter suits me better then the Viking that I have.. and that Isida is only worth half of the investment.. but well, that's >THIS< special game.

Edited November 12, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Seeing Wasp on your wish list gave me pause. Then I saw on another thread that you actually have it and drove it a bit. So sorry. Would have warned you if there'd been time. Wasp M3 used to be good but IMO post-rebalance it's useless. Speed and Armor are both the same as Hornet but Hornet accelerates MUCH faster and doesn't flip. Yeah, you have drift to deal with which I personally dislike but there are ways to exploit or mitigate the drift.

 

.

Edited November 12, 2016 by austen_pierce

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

pre-balance I was pretty happy with my M2 wasp/Rail combo.

I could compete quite well in XP/BP vs M3s.. and I could fight along with Gismos in drug free battles.

Was truely cool.. and I planned to get the M3s at Christmas Sale.

 

then the rebalance came.. and my M2 felt like an M0. After a few days I was so anoyed that I spend nearly all my crystals on the Touche Kit to try my luck with the Wasp M3.

It helps.. but often I simply miss the agility in order to do something usefull with the hull.

 

I played now 50.000 XP with my M3 Wasp.. but still > sometimes like after some hours of XP/BP > I think of gifting my account away as it makes no fun any more .. (but of course its forbidden, I know..)

Maybe I just have to wait for 9 months.. for the next rebalance. Maybe I can use my Isida then as well.

Edited November 12, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[stanzhang 3,291]

:o who edited the front page?

[austen_pierce 1,948]

pre-balance I was pretty happy with my M2 wasp/Rail combo.

I could compete quite well in XP/BP vs M3s.. and I could fight along with Gismos in drug free battles.

Was truely cool.. and I planned to get the M3s at Christmas Sale.

 

then the rebalance came.. and my M2 felt like an M0. After a few days I was so anoyed that I spend nearly all my crystals on the Touche Kit to try my luck with the Wasp M3.

It helps.. but often I simply miss the agility in order to do something usefull with the hull.

 

I played now 50.000 XP with my M3 Wasp.. but still > sometimes like after some hours of XP/BP > I think of gifting my account away as it makes no fun any more .. (but of course its forbidden, I know..)

Maybe I just have to wait for 9 months.. for the next rebalance. Maybe I can use my Isida then as well.

Yeah, Isida is collecting dust in my garage now. I do put it into service during the occasional Poly CP battle if there are a couple of fatty ally Mammoths or Titans at the point who need healing to secure a team win.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Or they encounter a Ricochet m0 for the first time.  Then they all start saving up for Ricochet.     Or those guys that buy every single m0 turret and hull to have fun or experiment. Or those guys that waste their crystals on m0 and m1 modules.  This is what results in a lot of new players quitting as they find their equipment not competitive (as they blew away all their crystals) with the opponents they are facing.

You know, Tanki should really try to spread this message:

 

"Don't waste your crystals on these M0s"

[NamesAreForNoobs 324]

I personally think that spending 184,175 crystals to micro upgrade M1 Freeze to M2, is definitely worth it, especially considering how OP M2 Freeze is.

 

Micro Upgrades are a way for buyers to get a massive advantage over non-buyers. Problem?

Not worth it, There are 2 ranks inbetween when you buy Freeze M1 and Freeze M2. Only 2 ranks! And that is a very little amount of experience considering those 2 ranks are low ranks, so it would be a massive waste of lots of cry. MUing M2 Freeze to M3, I could see that paying off.

[MentallyDeranged 740]

This is really a good way to play the game, assuming you aren't sold on ranking quickly. When Tanki rebalanced your combo into uselessness, swap out to play an another account.

 

Although I don't think I would have ever foreseen the swap of Hunter and Viking.

 

Unrelated question for BlackWasp777 and I_already_won. You guys alts or are those your mains? Ratings page looks like mains but I could be wrong...

#RIP English

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Seeing Wasp on your wish list gave me pause. Then I saw on another thread that you actually have it and drove it a bit. So sorry. Would have warned you if there'd been time. Wasp M3 used to be good but IMO post-rebalance it's useless. Speed and Armor are both the same as Hornet but Hornet accelerates MUCH faster and doesn't flip. Yeah, you have drift to deal with which I personally dislike but there are ways to exploit or mitigate the drift.

 

Actually, the speed of wasp is higher than hornet. And it's actually plenty easy to flip a hornet.  The drifting has been taken away from hornet and wasp drifts a little but I feel hornet accelerates much too slow, so I can't imagine what wasp feels like...

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

it feels worse

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Not worth it, There are 2 ranks inbetween when you buy Freeze M1 and Freeze M2. Only 2 ranks! And that is a very little amount of experience considering those 2 ranks are low ranks, so it would be a massive waste of lots of cry. MUing M2 Freeze to M3, I could see that paying off.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I could tell :D

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

I could tell :D

Well he couldn't.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Actually, the speed of wasp is higher than hornet. And it's actually plenty easy to flip a hornet. The drifting has been taken away from hornet and wasp drifts a little but I feel hornet accelerates much too slow, so I can't imagine what wasp feels like...

Not at all what I am seeing in the game

 

Incredibly I saw a non-drugging Viking reverse JUST AS FAST as a Hornet with nitro. I give up trying to figure out hull speeds in this game. Stats seem to go right into the wind in actual battles.

Edited November 19, 2016 by austen_pierce

[NamesAreForNoobs 324]

Note to Self: No thinking seriously after a test :lol: 

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

 

 

Or they encounter a Ricochet m0 for the first time.  Then they all start saving up for Ricochet.     Or those guys that buy every single m0 turret and hull to have fun or experiment. Or those guys that waste their crystals on m0 and m1 modules.  This is what results in a lot of new players quitting as they find their equipment not competitive (as they blew away all their crystals) with the opponents they are facing.

 

Thats me B) :P

 

But the difference is that i never quit tanki, and i actually was really good with Rico :P

I can use M1 Rico in M2-M3 battles and get within top 8(in a 20 player team battle)...The only problem is the plasma reload tho... thats why i havnt bought M2 and mu-ed it to M3 by now....(Lol, ik, that probably wouldnt be a goood idea anyways :P)

 

 

True, too. Alts are done neatly and have a clean and orderly garage. They may even make a 'specialist' account in order to experiment with a single combination.

 

Lol, if i had never made any alts adn spent all that extra time on this account, i bet i would have been at gismo like 6 months ago :P

 

 

Funny thing is they swapped Hunter and Viking weights already about a year ago.. then everone felt that Viking is far better (which it was, especially as they increased most impact forces and Vulcan could make Hunters spin around). Almost all players preffered Viking over Hunter during this period. Now they swapped it back.. no comment.

 

Ugh.... Viking has never been better than Hunter ever since i started playing. Hunter rules, Viking drools. Thats how slow and low it is. Its motor oil just kinda falls out whenever you hit a bump. Even mammy can get away with being fat and slow because of its height/good shape and (previously) insane health.

 

 

Good that you are starting to get along with it - and your comment on the steering is great  :D

I actually dno't know, why the fast+medium hulls have been made so slow.. before the update I saw already quite a lot of heavies around.. so obviously their speed was ok for the users.

 

---

 

My varietly of hulls and turrets.. well.. my final setups that I plan for are:

• M3 Wasp/Rail
• M3 Viking+Isida/Twins
• M3 Titan+Isida/Twins
• Maybe a Smoky later on.. lets see

 

Firebird M1 came with the Firefly kit, which was planned. It granted me early access to Wasp M1 - and Fire M1 aided my well in order to win some CTF vs. beginners, in order to earn well and rank fast.

 

Thunder M0 was just an experiment in the beginning, to see if it handels the M0 Deathmatches better then Rail M0 - but Railgun suited me better.  The Hornet M0.. well.. a friend asked me to 1-1 him. As I beat him, he blamed my Wasp M1 to be the reason and I shoud equip Hornet. I told him I have none (which was true by the time).. and so he asked me to purchase one  :P  It was just a few crystals and made someone happy  ;)

 

I'm a little p**ed that after the update the Hunter suits me better then the Viking that I have.. and that Isida is only worth half of the investment.. but well, that's >THIS< special game.

 

What? Hunter was hurt ALOT in the re"balence". Hunter was a total beast even when at an underpowed upgrade. I could win a battle full of M2 and some M3 with M1 Hunter, and i was able to win with M2 Hunter in M3+ battles... now i die the instant i leave my base..... and i cant even START using Viking since its M0, and by the time i can save for M2 viking i will be fighting all M3 and M4.... the devs really F-ed up everyone's way of playing. Good thing i didnt buy Railgun or i would be completly broke and unable to save for kits.... You guys with the M3 and M4 are lucky... you dont have to worry all that much about earning exp too fast.... its us mid ranks that always take most of the heat from bad updates since we ussually only have like 1 or 2 combos that need to last us a long time.... Im just glad im not Major tho with ALL the drugging M4s...

 

 

Seeing Wasp on your wish list gave me pause. Then I saw on another thread that you actually have it and drove it a bit. So sorry. Would have warned you if there'd been time. Wasp M3 used to be good but IMO post-rebalance it's useless. Speed and Armor are both the same as Hornet but Hornet accelerates MUCH faster and doesn't flip. Yeah, you have drift to deal with which I personally dislike but there are ways to exploit or mitigate the drift.

 

 

Lol, i feel like all the old Wasp fans now think hornet is better and all the old hornet fans think wasp is better :P

 

You know, Tanki should really try to spread this message:

"Don't waste your crystals on these M0s"

 

I got M1 rico at from mu and rekt EVERYONE B) :P

 

 

Actually, the speed of wasp is higher than hornet. And it's actually plenty easy to flip a hornet.  The drifting has been taken away from hornet and wasp drifts a little but I feel hornet accelerates much too slow, so I can't imagine what wasp feels like...

 

Wasp's speed is BARELY higher... and its health is BARELY lower than hornet's.... Wasp and Horent are nearly exactly the same now... it pisses me off how hornet now has like 10%+ health less than before too.... I think the developers forgot why Hornet and Wasp were orgiginally made to be different.. because some people hate being weak but have speed still(Horent fans) and others just prefer high-speeds, no matter the cost(Wasp fans).

If anything, Wasp should have had its speed increased more. Imo, it really isnt hard to hit a Wasp M4 with speed boost even with Rico M1. Now i cant use my pro M0 skillz with this account during XP battles.... i almost always get 1 shotted now by the M2.5 Railguns -_-

 

 

Not at all what I am seeing in the game

Incredibly I saw a non-drugging Viking reverse JUST AS FAST as a Hornet with nitro. I give up trying to figure out hull speeds in this game. Stats seem to go right into the wind in actual battles.

 

You JUST gave up on that? I gave up on figuring out stuff about turrets and hulls AGES ago.... the listed stats rarely, if ever, actually match how the hull or turret really performs. Have you even just had a really bad week in tanki where your just losing battles over and over and over again? Well that could be because there were some hidden updates to your equipment. (or maybe you just your legitimately unlucky or something :P)

 

 

 

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

[...]

When I wrote about Viking was superior to Hunter before the last rebalance, I was talking about M3s.

the impact force of M3 turrets is so hard, that a Hunter did not stand a chance, while the speed difference (pre balace again) was not thaaaat high.

I once set up a race M3 hunter vs M3 viking; Map red Alert, from red base through canyon until the bridge that spans across.

There was _NO_ noticable difference.

The Hunter had a slighly higher topspeed, but the viking get into gears faster (better acceleration), so that in the end they reached the line at the same time. And honesty -> I don't like to drive through the open for longer distances than that. For all other battle scenarios I preffer acceleration, as it allows to dodge and fool the enemy. The top-speed advantage of a M3 hunter (pre-balnce) did not allow you to outrun bullets anyways.

 

As the speed was so simmilar, weight and acceleration were important.. and this was aclear edge for viking.

The number of M3/M4 vikings in higher ranks stated this too. There are almost no M3/M$ hunters up there. For a reason.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

When I wrote about Viking was superior to Hunter before the last rebalance, I was talking about M3s.

the impact force of M3 turrets is so hard, that a Hunter did not stand a chance, while the speed difference (pre balace again) was not thaaaat high.

I once set up a race M3 hunter vs M3 viking; Map red Alert, from red base through canyon until the bridge that spans across.

There was _NO_ noticable difference.

The Hunter had a slighly higher topspeed, but the viking get into gears faster (better acceleration), so that in the end they reached the line at the same time. And honesty -> I don't like to drive through the open for longer distances than that. For all other battle scenarios I preffer acceleration, as it allows to dodge and fool the enemy. The top-speed advantage of a M3 hunter (pre-balnce) did not allow you to outrun bullets anyways.

 

As the speed was so simmilar, weight and acceleration were important.. and this was aclear edge for viking.

The number of M3/M4 vikings in higher ranks stated this too. There are almost no M3/M$ hunters up there. For a reason.

Yeah, i get your point....

 

But Iv also used M3.4 Hunter, and i like it more than Viking because of the fact that it IS slightly faster and the fact that its a bit lighter(Example: Hunter has such an advantage in Monte Carlos battle because its the "heaviest" hull that can do the ramps. Yeah, its possible for viking to but its impractical to try in real battle because of the risk of failing)

And again, the height and thinner body(but still stable enough for any turret) imo is its biggest advantage over viking.

 

Note: Im not saying that its perfect....i know it can fly all over the map if theres even 1 vulcan on other team... :P but you just need to be used to it. Im just not used to Viking, but im used to Hunter, so i like Hunter, and will defend it to the death :P

 

Btw, there is rarely a truly underpowed turret or hull. The reason it is considered "bad" is simply because it is not suited for the current popular maps, and all the old users of it need to try to figure out how to use it all over again. Before when freeze sucked, i would go into the occasional battle where there is a freeze in first place throughout the entire round with minimal drugging. I also noticed they used it completely differently than how everyone thinks it "should be". They treated it more like a firebird that is 1 upgrade lower than everyone else in the battle

 

 

 

Also... I know if you read through enough of my posts you would kinda see that i contradict myself (:P)  But thats cause im not the best at englishing, (English is my first language btw :P)  so if you glance at my posts then it could be like i am 2 different people  at times simply because i rarely will keep the same opinion for years and years. I constantly change when needed and i do like it when im proved wrong(unless i dont like the guy who proved me wrong. then i just get pissed)

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

You're right. The hunter users think Viking is op now and the Viking users think hunter is op now because they each bought it for its strength in a certain aspect. Wasp is too slow. Hornet is too unstable and accelerates too slow. Viking has too little weight.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I guess the thing with the jump in monte carlo is history now.. I have a Wasp M3 and I can't do the jump without a nitro.

I completely agree to you about the form factor.. Hunter has the edge here.

 

I hope Hazel sticks to his word and the swaps of hunter and Viking are history now.

I've to try to get along with my Viking M3+13 now, as I do not want to spend crystals on another hunter.. I rather get a Titan or Mammut and a Twins. Lets see.

 

Overall they made a lot of players unhappy. Light hulls make only half the fun they used to, and the Hunters + Viking users are pissed too.