Three Years and ive had enough

[pizzaslad 471]

Druggers druggers druggers. I remember a time where the only thing a buyer could get was the things available at his/her rank and a 100 drug kit. That was the good ole days for me. But now you can get a kit with things meant for Majors at WO5. And with drugs.... no m1 kills them. I was in a 100 flag battle and it was going good, a stale mate but we got in a good bit of flags with regular, good non drugging attacks when 4 kit buyers came and wrecked it. 45k gone. Our team started to loss but I could of gotten like 4k from it if I hadn't lagged out at the end.

[pizzaslad 471]

Darduda4 you can customize PRO battles you know.

[DeoxyriboNudeicAcicl 97]

I hate how everyone complains about drugs, they make the game more fun, and seriously, have you actually tried turning your turret or being more skilled than the drugger? Seriously, unless they have an OP combo, then you and a friend could take them out easily, use the new weapon change feature to change to  gun to which they do not have protection. Buy an gun that you know how to use fairly well. Ugh, notice how low ranks are always complaining about drugs.

[gazatron30 513]

p.s. And those that disagree with me are the ppl that i am talking about "druggers" 

This in and of itself is not fair to say whatsoever. Just because someone disagrees with what you are saying doesn't mean that they press 2 3 and 4 instantly right after they respawn all the time. I've noticed that all the people that complain about druggers are the ones that have used all of their own supplies up and don't have them anymore. In addition, the big supplies kits were meant to be affordable so everyone can buy them, even if they don't buy crystals. Sure, for buyers its super cheap, but 1000 of each supply used wisely for a non-buyer can last for a very long time. This is the way the game works. If you can't afford something, play/work harder. No one ever gained anything worthwhile by complaining. There are many non-buyers in this game that have very good garages and lots of supplies because they worked hard and reaped the reward for their efforts.

[Check.Mate 31]

I hate how everyone complains about drugs, they make the game more fun, and seriously, have you actually tried turning your turret or being more skilled than the drugger? Seriously, unless they have an OP combo, then you and a friend could take them out easily, use the new weapon change feature to change to  gun to which they do not have protection. Buy an gun that you know how to use fairly well. Ugh, notice how low ranks are always complaining about drugs.

wow are you kidding me tried turning your turret,more skilled you say, that is probably the most stupid reply ive read in the past 2 days i have plenty of combos i only have m2 hornet but i have rico rail fire shaft and isida all m2 and i am fairly skilled with each of them considering ive dedicated full ranks 2 each of them, and the part where you mention "friends" is utterly retarted, i would love to see you attack and type at the same time who do  you think you are God. and as far as you mentioning low ranks you must be joking because me and most of my "low rank friends" are better than most high rankers such as yourself. 

[Check.Mate 31]

I have been playin 1 and a half and Im brig

Good job bro but -

Edited June 19, 2014 by Shadow_Error_X

[Cluanar 15]

nothing about "auto win" with drugs is skillful or helpful to the game and community thus this conversation. It is obviously a problem no matter which opinion you have. A good development team finds a way to balance it and they have been given many good suggestions.

 

1. Stop giving drugs as gifts.

2. Give the ability to make drug free games for free

3. Let the druggers pay for a pass for a while ( then we'll see who complains )

4. Make kills/flag  captures with drugs 1/2 pts

5. 5 min cool down on drugs

6. Slight boost in ability not 10 ranks higher

 

Addition: If you want drug use  to somehow be a skill then maybe cap uses in a game at a small rate and let the timing of use be the tactical skill as to when. Get to a lead early or finish strong. This would also promote needed team strategy as to who uses and when. Use on defense? Use on offense? The bottom line it eliminates streaming pumps.  

Edited June 19, 2014 by Cluanar

[Vettefan22 145]

People should listen to this man ^

[MrTactics 219]

Apparently tanki are making a "brilliant" idea to put a hold on drugs. If they do the "feedback" they have been listening too would be questionable...

[Check.Mate 31]

Apparently tanki are making a "brilliant" idea to put a hold on drugs. If they do the "feedback" they have been listening too would be questionable...

can you link me 2 that?  :)

[darkuda4 40]

Darduda4 you can customize PRO battles you know.

read it again.

 

I said it should be reversed.

Instead of paying for a battle pass to avoid druggers you should pay to be able to use them.

a pro battle by default should have all crystals go directly to the fund to prevent noobs coming in and collecting crystals.

[Snow.HD 1,037]

It's DEFINATELY not. Doing this ^ will ruin the game completely.

... drugger said :D

[Snow.HD 1,037]

a pro battle by default should have all crystals go directly to the fund to prevent noobs coming in and collecting crystals.

sorry , but here are some players who don`t play for cristals . we don`t have a job or a big account in Bank .

[Cluanar 15]

It isn't. Increasing cooldown is even worse, they're done already before you went through enemy base and came back in your base. They're fine and should not be changed. If you came up with this 2 years ago I would agree, but now there are almost more pro battles in server 1 and 2 than normal battles. Just join a probattle and you're done.

Maybe I am not sure what a pro battle is but I rarely see more than 2 games and it usually has 2-3 people in it.

[doughnut2100 763]

Have you not heard of pro battles?

[Cluanar 15]

Have you not heard of pro battles?

I understand it as a pass to drug free games but never have I see a server with more of those than open play games.

[gazatron30 513]

nothing about "auto win" with drugs is skillful or helpful to the game and community thus this conversation. It is obviously a problem no matter which opinion you have. A good development team finds a way to balance it and they have been given many good suggestions.

 

1. Stop giving drugs as gifts.

2. Give the ability to make drug free games for free

3. Let the druggers pay for a pass for a while ( then we'll see who complains )

4. Make kills/flag  captures with drugs 1/2 pts

5. 5 min cool down on drugs

6. Slight boost in ability not 10 ranks higher

 

 

Agreed, but only in part

 

1. That would be impossible, then most of the daily bonuses would be gone and there would only be crystals, DCC, and pro pass to give away. There's no way that's going to happen.

 

2. Agreed.

 

3. Maybe, but that could be unfair for the people who use supplies.

 

4. That's an interesting idea, but 75% points is a better option IMO.

 

5. No. Just no. That's waaaaaaay too long. 2-2.5 minutes is probably better, 5 minutes is a long time.

 

6. Can you expand on this a little more please?

[darkuda4 40]

nothing about "auto win" with drugs is skillful or helpful to the game and community thus this conversation. It is obviously a problem no matter which opinion you have. A good development team finds a way to balance it and they have been given many good suggestions.

 

1. Stop giving drugs as gifts. ( No <_< all players benefit from this )

 

2. Give the ability to make drug free games for free ( Yes i actually agree with this point P.S I'm a drug user/abuser )

 

3. Let the druggers pay for a pass for a while ( Yes to this also - let the Care Bears remain in casual battle  )

 

4. Make kills/flag  captures with drugs 1/2 pts (No, just no..... -_- )

 

5. 5 min cool down on drugs ( The cool down is fine the way it is )

 

6. Slight boost in ability not 10 ranks higher ( Not sure what you mean by this but I would love to see matches that only allow a                                                                                                                        particular make like  M1, M2 and M3 only battles regardless of rank. )

 

 

[Thomas11239 366]

he says he had multiple accounts...

[Cluanar 15]

Agreed, but only in part

 

1. That would be impossible, then most of the daily bonuses would be gone and there would only be crystals, DCC, and pro pass to give away. There's no way that's going to happen.

 

2. Agreed.

 

3. Maybe, but that could be unfair for the people who use supplies.

 

4. That's an interesting idea, but 75% points is a better option IMO.

 

5. No. Just no. That's waaaaaaay too long. 2-2.5 minutes is probably better, 5 minutes is a long time.

 

6. Can you expand on this a little more please?

What I'm referring to in #6 is  the double power in a power up. If I read the stats correctly ( and I may not be ) a double power m0 rail does greater damage than a M3 rail gun meaning for example a staff sergeant  can pump once and have the equivalent or greater than a rank who has acquired an M3. If I am wrong I apologize  but I don't quite yet fully understand the numbers yet. I just aim and shoot :-)

 

Is there a matrix of exactly what benefit you get from the pumps? Is it balanced? Does one pumping armor negate the full benefit of one pumping a power up?

 

What if a pump was of micro level upgrade instead of M3 +level. ( maybe allow them to stack then and burn them up :-) )

 

And in regards to #5 yes you're right, a blanket 5 min is too long especially in a 5-10 min game. But applying #2 negates the need for any other changes.

 

Thanks for tolerating my rants, this is a spirited debate in an awesome community.

[MentalHandicap 23]

there is only solution of all above matter

 

1 . auto generate probattle by tanki in every server

2. pro battle pass cost by rank..like this    crystal/month

 

• 1 Ways of getting new ranks        free
• 2 Recruit                                       free
• 3 Private                                       100
• 4 Gefreiter                                     200
• 5 Corporal                                     300
• 6 Master Corporal                         400
• 7 Sergeant                                    600
• 8 Staff Sergeant                            800
• 9 Master Sergeant                       1000
• 10 First Sergeant                         1200
• 11 Sergeant-Major                       1400
• 12 Warrant Officer 1                     1600
• 13 Warrant Officer 2                     1800
• 14 Warrant Officer 3                      2000
• 15 Warrant Officer 4                      2200
• 16 Warrant Officer 5                      2400
• 17 Third Lieutenant                       2600
• 18 Second Lieutenant                   2800
• 19 First Lieutenant                        3000
• 20 Captain                                    3200
• 21 Major                                        3500
• 22 Lieutenant Colonel                   3800
• 23 Colonel                                     4100
• 24 Brigadier                                   4500
• 25 Major General                           4900          
• 26 Lieutenant General                   5300
• 27 General                                     5900
• 28 Marshal                                     6400
• 29 Fieldmarshal                             7000
• 30 Commander                              7600
• 31 Generalissimo                           8000

3 . maximum rank limit in for battle is between 5 rank only

4. there will be a renual warnning before 5 days of expairy of pro battle pass

Edited June 19, 2014 by MentalHandicap

[Cluanar 15]

there is only solution of all above matter

 

1 . auto generate probattle by tanki in every server

2. pro battle pass cost by rank..like this    crystal/month

 

• 1 Ways of getting new ranks        free
• 2 Recruit                                       free
• 3 Private                                       100
• 4 Gefreiter                                     200
• 5 Corporal                                     300
• 6 Master Corporal                         400
• 7 Sergeant                                    600
• 8 Staff Sergeant                            800
• 9 Master Sergeant                       1000
• 10 First Sergeant                         1200
• 11 Sergeant-Major                       1400
• 12 Warrant Officer 1                     1600
• 13 Warrant Officer 2                     1800
• 14 Warrant Officer 3                      2000
• 15 Warrant Officer 4                      2200
• 16 Warrant Officer 5                      2400
• 17 Third Lieutenant                       2600
• 18 Second Lieutenant                   2800
• 19 First Lieutenant                        3000
• 20 Captain                                    3200
• 21 Major                                        3500
• 22 Lieutenant Colonel                   3800
• 23 Colonel                                     4100
• 24 Brigadier                                   4500
• 25 Major General                           4900          
• 26 Lieutenant General                   5300
• 27 General                                     5900
• 28 Marshal                                     6400
• 29 Fieldmarshal                             7000
• 30 Commander                              7600
• 31 Generalissimo                           8000

3 . maximum rank limit in for battle is between 5 rank only

4. there will be a renual warnning before 5 days of expairy of pro battle pass

So those who cannot afford to buy masses of drugs need to buy drug free games. Though not a horrible idea it does not solve the biased towards non druggers.

 

I suppose masses is a strong word but you get the point

Edited June 19, 2014 by Cluanar

[Vettefan22 145]

I think the best option is a longer cool down on drugs, and not being able to use all 3 at once. This way no one has to spend crystals just to battle and we can focus on upgrading our garage.

[MentalHandicap 23]

So those who cannot afford to buy masses of drugs need to buy drug free games. Though not a horrible idea it does not solve the biased towards non druggers.

 

I suppose masses is a strong word but you get the point

lets talk with your rank

• 18 Second Lieutenant                   2800

if you yet play probattle free 1 day pass / one month paid pass

then you can feel the magic

do you want to releaf from drugger ?

do have yet sufficient  skill fight with non drugger ?

do have ever play 100 flag game wisely without drugger ?

 

i dont think so

 

2800 crystal is nothing if you have sufficient battle

most of us dont play pro battle / buy pro battle pass not for its price , because there no sufficient battle available in your rank or except in server   no 2

 

think when 40% pro battle auto generate by tanki on every server  , people will be more interested in probattle

 

one think  i forget to write there shold be one day probattle pass for buy ie 120 crystal / day for you rank &

300 crystal for generalissimo

 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2014 by MentalHandicap

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

Okay, the problem is only before colonel, then, pro battles are rare, after that, you will find atleast 40% Pro battles independent of the normal battles