Winning Teams

[arun246 67]

Tanki please don't allow players from one team in the same battle to join the other team. For instance a player from the red team joins the blue team in the same battle. I have played many battles where the team was losing or is losing, a player from that team waits till the winning team has 1 or 2 spots open and then leaves his team and joins that one. Please do not allow this anymore, the player who leaves and joins like that is just taking advantage of the winning teams drugs, skills, players and so on. Also that player might push you off the flag holder, when your team is taking the flag and if you have a higher score he will sabotage you to pass your score on the scoreboard. Please take this into consideration as I find this problem highly unfair. Even if that player wanted to be with a friend.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

That's called being smart, I do that all the time. Why would I want to waste my time fighting for a losing team, and barely gain anything in the end? And think for a moment, WHY these teams are losing? In my experience, these losing teams usually contain players who are inexperienced (noobs), can't turn their turrets, or just camping for crystals, AKA Mults.

So instead, if there's 1-2 slots on the opposing team open, it'd be beneficial for me to switch teams. I'll gain more crystals, points, and have more fun.

 

I'm taking advantage of that team's drugs, skills, players, etc.

You do that in every battle. Even on the original team, you're still taking advantage of the team's drugs, skills, players, etc.

Besides, in a team, you work together. So it's only natural you do that. Now if you said that about a DM, then you've got a point.

 

As for your final point, he "MIGHT push you off the flag." Ah yes, and he MIGHT not push you off the flag. I think that's a bit irrelevant to this idea. . .

[r_Mafiax0 25]

Lol

[arun246 67]

 

That's called being smart, I do that all the time. Why would I want to waste my time fighting for a losing team, and barely gain anything in the end? And think for a moment, WHY these teams are losing? In my experience, these losing teams usually contain players who are inexperienced (noobs), can't turn their turrets, or just camping for crystals, AKA Mults.

So instead, if there's 1-2 slots on the opposing team open, it'd be beneficial for me to switch teams. I'll gain more crystals, points, and have more fun.

 

I'm taking advantage of that team's drugs, skills, players, etc.

You do that in every battle. Even on the original team, you're still taking advantage of the team's drugs, skills, players, etc.

Besides, in a team, you work together. So it's only natural you do that. Now if you said that about a DM, then you've got a point.

 

As for your final point, he "MIGHT push you off the flag." Ah yes, and he MIGHT not push you off the flag. I think that's a bit irrelevant to this idea. . .

It may be smart, but its being a fool, u chose to join the losing team. OF course drugs change the outcome of a battle but like I said u chose to be on that team. And u have it all wrong. People shouldn't be judged on what they can and cannot do. Teams usually lose because they don't drug and while the other team is drugging, people either just talk and camp. Also don't judge my idea, I agree u have the right to but I don't want u to because it gains u nothing. and I never asked for your opinion on the subject, isn't this section for mods and devs to reply?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

So, switching teams is smart, but at the same time, it's being foolish? Kind of contradicts each other, no?

Yes, I chose to be on that team, but it's ridiculous for it to be mandatory to stick to that team forever. Games are supposed to be fun, and being restricted/bound in that way is NOT by any means fun. I should have the freedom to switch teams.

 

I believe YOU have got it all wrong. I did NOT by any means join the losing team. I joined the team, however, at that time they were not losing. I, nor you, can tell the future.

 

Teams usually lose because they don't drug? Well, it is possible to hold off druggers without drugs, so if you're already winning, if you've the right skill, you should be able to repel druggers until the timer is up- assuming the battle is not a very long battle of course.

But I can definitely see it happen in a longer battle, especially when a take-over happens, which involves a large amount of druggers flooding a team simultaneously.

But then again that is why there are PRO battles and PRO battle passes. If you cannot stand normal battles, you're going to have to play PRO battles, learn how to play against druggers, or play with the right team. In addition to that, I have a tip for you. Don't use the drugs you obtain from Daily Bonuses, and let them stack up. Then you'll be able to drug back against druggers as well. In addition to that, stay on top of things and take part in events like THE GAME, which give you loads of power-ups. Also, take part in contests on forums, twitter, facebook, etc.

 

For your information, if this section was for Mods and Devs ONLY, then I should (along with a number of other players) be banned right now. LOL. However, it is for others to express their opinions and views on things as well. Sure you didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll give it anyway.

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

isn't this section for mods and devs to reply?

This section is also for the discussion of ideas submitted here. Discussions aren't limited to mods and devs. If this section were only for those two usergroups, then what's the point of allowing normal members to comment here?

[arun246 67]

So, switching teams is smart, but at the same time, it's being foolish? Kind of contradicts each other, no?

Yes, I chose to be on that team, but it's ridiculous for it to be mandatory to stick to that team forever. Games are supposed to be fun, and being restricted/bound in that way is NOT by any means fun. I should have the freedom to switch teams.

 

I believe YOU have got it all wrong. I did NOT by any means join the losing team. I joined the team, however, at that time they were not losing. I, nor you, can tell the future.

 

Teams usually lose because they don't drug? Well, it is possible to hold off druggers without drugs, so if you're already winning, if you've the right skill, you should be able to repel druggers until the timer is up- assuming the battle is not a very long battle of course.

But I can definitely see it happen in a longer battle, especially when a take-over happens, which involves a large amount of druggers flooding a team simultaneously.

But then again that is why there are PRO battles and PRO battle passes. If you cannot stand normal battles, you're going to have to play PRO battles, learn how to play against druggers, or play with the right team. In addition to that, I have a tip for you. Don't use the drugs you obtain from Daily Bonuses, and let them stack up. Then you'll be able to drug back against druggers as well. In addition to that, stay on top of things and take part in events like THE GAME, which give you loads of power-ups. Also, take part in contests on forums, twitter, facebook, etc.

 

For your information, if this section was for Mods and Devs ONLY, then I should (along with a number of other players) be banned right now. LOL. However, it is for others to express their opinions and views on things as well. Sure you didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll give it anyway.

Forget it, your not seeing my point. BTW if your just gonna reply negative comments to my topics     please don't reply to them at all.

[arun246 67]

This section is also for the discussion of ideas submitted here. Discussions aren't limited to mods and devs. If this section were only for those two usergroups, then what's the point of allowing normal members to comment here?

Didn't u read my reply?

[Jolly.Jumper 28]

For my aspect, if my team tries hard but loses after all, I stick to my team whether they lose or not. This is a game after all. I wouldn't betray my team if they really were not mults from opposing team. We should be together till the end for better or for worse :)  Good friendships sprout like that  ;)

[AMagicPotato 100]

This is mult not being smart.

[RustyNail 1,538]

That's called being smart, I do that all the time. Why would I want to waste my time fighting for a losing team, and barely gain anything in the end? . . .

Actually, I don't think it's smart. More like dump...

Consider this.

One team loses and a member leaves and goes to the opponent (winning) team.

Result?

Bigger loss for the first team.

Is this good for all?

NO.

Because what's good is a high rate of kills, which usually means kills for both teams. If a battle gets very unballanced it usually ends quickly and with less kills / funds comparing to a more ballanced battle.

So it's for anyone's best interest to secure ballance in a battle and this is why I have left the winning team to join the loosing one in some occasions.

 

Besides this, it's unethical to leave the weak to join the strong. Want to leave? Fine. Leave altogether, don't change teams. We all play the game to have a good time, and maybe to support the weak, sometimes... I know, this idea isn't much appreciated nowadays.. that's why everything goes wrong as time passes. (but that's irrelevant)

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Bigger loss for the first team? LOL. Right, like the losing team get much anyway. :lol:

Besides, I disagree. More people on one side of a team, means the fund has to be shared more. So if you stay longer, and others leave, then you'll get more. If that makes sense.  And the supposedly "dumb" person who went to the other team will get more crystals WINNING, and everybody wins.

 

Lol, no way. Why not join some battles that don't have a flag limit? Those are the battles that I like to pick. 20-30 minute battles to secure wins and avoid takeovers, and no flag limit to achieve maximum profit.

 

But if you mean people leaving, then no. I always see losing teams, and they never leave the battle entirely. True, kills support the fund and help it grow, but the losing team cannot kill. They just keep getting beat repeatedly. So, the battle fund grows, and the gap between winning and losing grows more and more, and the less crystals the losing team will gain. See? It is VERY smart to join the winning team. It isn't stupid. Lool.

 

It is definitely not stupid nor dumb. It is very smart. So your view of it being dumb isn't very convincing AT ALL.

 

However, I do see how you say it is unethical. Lol. Though personally I find it extraordinarily stupid, no offense. First of all, I have no idea who these teammates are. They are simply strangers, just like the people on the other team. They don't speak English, I have no idea who they are, so it means nothing.

 

Lol yes, we play the game to have a good time. Thanks for bringing that up. I don't have a good time when I'm losing and getting repeatedly killed. I want to have fun! And it's not worth supporting the weak. Like I said, they're total strangers, and don't speak English. We've no communication between each other, and I'm not going to waste any one of my drugs against someone who has an infinite amount.

 

 

It isn't dumb, it's common sense to switch sides. Though it's different I guess if you're playing with a bunch of friends, obviously you don't turn on them. Either way, with switching sides, you don't lose anything. You gain things however. Now how is that dumb? :D

[RustyNail 1,538]

You weren't good in maths, were you? lol

Well, maybe you want to reconsider the fund maths of the situation... The more the loosing team is getting support, the more the battle funds get. The more the winning team is getting support, the quicker the battle ends and so the funds are limited. You change sides, you get the smallest percentage of a short term gain. The best, leave the battle altogether (if you are not good enough to make a difference in the battle).

 

On ethics, you sure make the smart choice... to cover your own ass. Smart.. Reaaal smart. Only, I wouldn't want such a person next to me. And why should I... I 'd like someone to be able to count on. You, well, you can go find a team dump enough to not care whether you stand by them or not.

 

p.s. a person not speaking english doesn't have to be an incompettent person. It may very well be a very smart person from an other country, a good tanker and a good warrior too... 

 

p.s.2 "it's not worth supporting the weak" sometimes, not in the game but in real life, that's all it matters. To support the weak. That's what's makes you a good person.

[figher007 0]

do you know that only noobs join the winning side! cause if you are not you will try to win! a battle was like 90 flags for them and 18 for us with limit 100 and then i joined and we won. (i wasnt a druger by the way and no one did. we just were really tricky) i was like 6th and got more than 1500 crystals.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@figher: Or maybe only people who don't like the risk of "take overs" and would like to play it safe, yet at the same time fun, would join the winning side. Don't just use one example and generalize it. Haha.

 

@Rusty: Quick, easy, dynamic, fun battles. Go through lots of them, get rewards real fast. I would only agree with you if rewards were distributed more fairly, also known as giving the losing side more crystals the longer they stayed, which is why I also suggested some other ideas that would benefit losing teams or players that stay the whole battle. Haha. Unlike you, I don't like to FORCE people to do things, rather give them a choice, and other benefits to entice them.

 

You get lots of crystals if you WIN. Hence why I join the winning side, and why I think it should remain the way that players have the CHOICE to switch sides or not. As for leaving the battle TOGETHER. Haha. I'd love to see that happen, though it almost never does, with only smarter people doing it. Though even if they do, new guys arrive and take their spots, still getting dominated and contributing to the fund. As for making a difference in battle, sorry, but you're going to have to face the reality that sometimes you can't do that. Lel. Sometimes it's just impossible, and thinking you can always make a difference is downright ignorant. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to topple over M3/M2 Isidas with M3/M2 Vikings with Prodigi/Clay, (almost) fully MU'd, and fully drugged. Especially if your team consists of people not fit for the battle, AKA M1's. Realize your boundaries and what you CAN do, and what you can NOT do.

 

And with that bit of information in mind, I assume that YOU are assuming that the battle fund would be lower just because the losing team would start leaving or so? No. I almost never see that happening, and even if they did, they would shortly be replaced by new comers who would contribute to the deaths, and battlefunds. Besides, even if you are winning, it doesn't mean nobody on the winning side is dying as well. All in all, the battle keeps going, and you gain much more when you're winning. And as for the losing side, the principle stays the same. Their "reward" is simply not worth it at all. Switching sides is a much smarter option, and does not necessarily mean that you should not trust the person. They're trying hard to get the team to win, but if the team simply cannot win, why die with them? If they do not want to make the smarter decision to leave, why do you have to do the same and stay with that team? Having the choice to join the other team, and doing so, is much better. Think smart, you are your own individual, and can make choices. LOL. Don't be forced to do things. That's distasteful.

 

You're mixing up "smartness" as we're referring to it as, and ethics. The goal is to win the battle, not to horribly lose and still say "omg we didn't leave, wasted our time, etc. etc." we're so good: :D" Lol. That's hilarious. And second of all, you should take teams less seriously, especially the everyday battles we go through, where we team up with strangers who we don't know, nor do we speak their language.

 

Hello? Even today, there are a ton of mults that push over teammates with flags, just to capture it themselves. There are teammates that simply focus on gathering crystal boxes without a care for the flag. When I see that, I immediately leave and join the other team if I can. If you call that stupid or dumb, then I've nothing to say, but LOL.

 

Just because I would rather win, you wouldn't trust me? Hello? To be part of the team, would mean you're trying the best as you can to help your team win. Correct? Now, go back and read what I said about realizing what you CAN do, and what you CAN NOT do. Realize your boundaries, dude. Haha. I'm already trying my best, drugging even if I have to, to win. And I sure do one hell of a job. However, when I see that the battle simply cannot be won, especially with either noob or mult teammates, or simply enemies that are TOO powerful, I simply leave, and join the other side if I can. If the other team (former team) wants to stay, then let it be. Either way they're not winning, and if you had stayed with them, guess what? Your "reward," if you can even call it a reward, will be miniscule and almost equivalent to nothing. Sure, crystal boxes, but guess what? You can collect them on the other team as well. Again, you lose nothing, but you gain a whole lot more by doing so. The outcome is still the same, but you get benefits as well. 

 

PS1: If we can't communicate due to languages, it doesn't matter how "smart" we are. We simply cannot communicate much, or even at all.

 

PS2: You're taking this game too seriously. :lol: We're talking game wise, don't mix it in with reality.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Dude, you bored me to death. Sorry, can't read all that you wrote... ;)  My God, can't you make a point in less than 2 million words?

 

Cya

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Lol. Good. You clearly have no good argument here, trying to force people to do things.

So it's no surprise here that you get bored. :lol:

 

So have fun hurting yourself in battles while you side with the losing team just for "ethics."

Clearly you're wrong about it being dumb, and I'm glad you chose to exit this conversation. Finally, you made a good choice, save yourself some embarrassment while at the same time being narrow-minded, and too stubborn to understand. And what happens when you don't understand? You get bored.

 

Now, I believe I'll take my leave on this topic now as well. Have a good day. :D

[rahmannoor077 38]

The best thing to do in a loosing battle, if you join late that is to leave the battle. and if you are an early comer and your team has capture few flags than stay in the battle and collect whatever you got. actually i think it's a rare option to join the other side (which is winning) because most often winning team has the advantage of more player and if you get that rare chance I don't think that is a smart move because the game is dull when you know it's result :)

[El_Ricardo_gRRRRR 44]

dude you are a huge noob complainer -_- complaining about team...drugs...kits...everything now the only thing you can complain about are names -_- my name is ugly XD

[arun246 67]

 

dude you are a huge noob complainer -_- complaining about team...drugs...kits...everything now the only thing you can complain about are names -_- my name is ugly XD

How else is the community supposed to help me If I don't complain, and its in my best interest to do what I want. Think about that. Oh and thank you if im a noob then your a bigger one.

[Mr.SV.ENS 738]

Tanki please don't allow players from one team in the same battle to join the other team. For instance a player from the red team joins the blue team in the same battle. I have played many battles where the team was losing or is losing, a player from that team waits till the winning team has 1 or 2 spots open and then leaves his team and joins that one. Please do not allow this anymore, the player who leaves and joins like that is just taking advantage of the winning teams drugs, skills, players and so on. Also that player might push you off the flag holder, when your team is taking the flag and if you have a higher score he will sabotage you to pass your score on the scoreboard. Please take this into consideration as I find this problem highly unfair. Even if that player wanted to be with a friend.

If you can't beat them, join them. Deal with it. The people who do that are just smart.

[arun246 67]

 

Lol. Good. You clearly have no good argument here, trying to force people to do things.

So it's no surprise here that you get bored. :lol:

 

So have fun hurting yourself in battles while you side with the losing team just for "ethics."

Clearly you're wrong about it being dumb, and I'm glad you chose to exit this conversation. Finally, you made a good choice, save yourself some embarrassment while at the same time being narrow-minded, and too stubborn to understand. And what happens when you don't understand? You get bored.

 

Now, I believe I'll take my leave on this topic now as well. Have a good day. :D

I said for you to not reply to my topics if it bothers you. You have got issues. Switching teams is not fair to the players on the opposite team, Your wasting their time, effort and all that. You simply don't understand equality, idc what you say about me, I think this idea should be implied and like I said don't reply to my topics if it bothers you, which it clearly does. All you do in my topics is brag, insult me and become a show off.

[arun246 67]

 

If you can't beat them, join them. Deal with it. The people who do that are just smart.

Ehh your not smart.

[fahim_the_boss 1,519]

Losing team has mults or sabotage, and they just collect crystal that's y they dont win -_-

[arun246 67]

 

The best thing to do in a loosing battle, if you join late that is to leave the battle. and if you are an early comer and your team has capture few flags than stay in the battle and collect whatever you got. actually i think it's a rare option to join the other side (which is winning) because most often winning team has the advantage of more player and if you get that rare chance I don't think that is a smart move because the game is dull when you know it's result :)

 

ahh um do u agree with me or not.