New campaign against Mults and Saboteurs.

[Tyty1104 2]

I suport

Tyty1104

 

[soorya 85]

If anyone want help call me i and my friends will come then make you're team win xD

[trombone_ftw 734]

I support this campaign.

 

~ @Vettefan22

[r_priyangshu0 270]

I support this too me and my friend were doing a battle in serpuhov when a mult with tundra(he bought a kit) Of Master Corporal Rank Xame and started collecting all crys boxes in middle and he died over 6 times without killing anyone :angry:  

oh and Btw first time i am using this emoji :P

The first one

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

 

If you don't care, why would you post at all? So your telling us that you don't mind mults and saboteurs. I already know that's not true. But I'm not getting into that with you.

 

 

EDIT: You will see in the next few posts a regrettable heated conversation between myself and @canadarules. I would like to apologize for this outburst, it was very unprofessional on my part. I will not speak for him but in my opinion it serves no useful role in this topic.

 

 

I would like to welcome and thank everyone that has agreed to support this campaign so far. I hope you are all trying to make a difference, and are seeing some success. If we continue to fight them instead of just letting them get away with it, some may just give up their selfish behaviour.

I do have a little good news. I have talked with a few admins and mods. They told me that they have read this and @AbsoluteZero's 2 topics, I have listed. I was unable to confirm if any of this has gone any further up the command chain but it did sound promising to me. I will continue to attract more attention to our issue, but for now keep doing what ever you can.

Edited October 10, 2014 by AMDTU

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

I will use shaft protection in your battle.. im just kidding.

 

I think you have some good ideas to think about it, I will support this topic.

[r_davinson46463a0 147]

I support :)

[bombshellbarty 0]

ok here...my clanKings of parkour  XD so here link http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=216162&hl=%2Bkings+%2Bof+%2Bparkour im doing this to sopurt u guys 

[Beep_me 4]

Hi,

 

I think you need to clarify this a bit, it is sounding like you are setting yourself up as both judge and jury. I mean I am often sniped at by someone I have not even seen and it takes me several lives to find them. So just because a player comes out of hiding to try for a gold box, it does not necessarily mean they have only just joined. Attacking innocent players is not going to help, so you would have to be very careful in who you decide is cheating.

 

I used to watch the list at the top right, for people joining, but some seem to join without it saying so (a cheat?).

 

Broadly I agree with you very much, I am sick of reporting cheaters who appear and disappear (using speed). Some mods are very good, others seem unmoderated, or willing to accept such behavior as nothing gets done and I have to play out the rest of the game with them zooming across the board, obscene comments directed at me in chat if I say anything. worse still, when I do pin them down somewhere where their friends cannot come to their rescue and I have almost killed them, they LEAVE the game instantly, or instantly SELF-DESTRUCT, no countdown. Once or twice it might be a co-incidence, but it happens so often to me, that  it can not be possible to all be coincidences. Remember it robs you of your total and crystals at the end of the game when they loose and you don't get credited with the kill - Especially if you gave up easy chances to single them out and try to teach them a lesson. Talking of which, I've been noticing that sometimes when I destroy someone, it is saying at the top right of the screen that THEY destroyed ME, when their tank is gone and I am still driving around...

 

Another thing that seems highly suspicious is people using amazing quantities of mines - At 50 crystals each? I actually posted in chat "Does anyone else enjoy driving over mines, knowing they cost 50 crystals each to replace?" only to get one reply saying who needs crystals to get them, like I was a n00b...

 

Are the cheats for unlimited crystals still working? Only if they are, then it makes the game unplayable as there are mines everywhere and if people can get them so easily by cheating, an honest player has no chance.

 

Also, after reading in chat about one player who had been cheated by someone introducing lag, I looked it up. Now sometimes the game is unplayable, how can anyone tell if this is server lag, or intentionally introduced lag to give them a smooth screen and you are down to >2fps?

 

I don't often play on teams, but Desert and Polygon seem to very frequently have cheaters in them.

 

Another thing that spoils the game, is "undeclared" clans. You join a non-team game, only to find there are a team of "steamers" in there, each helping each other to more crystals and attacking you as a gang, so you can not play that game against a gang.

 

Finally, I have given up on gold boxes.  Great big, heavy tanks with massive armor just sit there, blowing away several others with one shot and no one can get them, so they get the gold box every time. I have noticed this week that action may have finally been taken on this as now the gold boxes seem to be being dropped in more places than they were before. This at least gives you a chance of being in the right place s at the right time by accident sometimes, although it has not yet happened to me. I have only ever got two gold boxes and both of them were in my early games. As I go up the ranks, I seem to be getting forced out of the game by better-equipped opponents, including one I noticed, who's turret was more advanced than his rank would allow. That must be another cheat then.

 

I keep getting very odd things happen, but only while playing Tanki - Like sudden "fatal exceptions" and the tanks and ground disappearing. Funny how it never happens with other flash websites. I guess that could be a genuine glitch, rather than intentional disruption of opponents, unless someone knows better?

 

[Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang 0]

Another thing that seems highly suspicious is people using amazing quantities of mines - At 50 crystals each? I actually posted in chat "Does anyone else enjoy driving over mines, knowing they cost 50 crystals each to replace?" only to get one reply saying who needs crystals to get them, like I was a n00b...

 

Another thing that spoils the game, is "undeclared" clans. You join a non-team game, only to find there are a team of "steamers" in there, each helping each other to more crystals and attacking you as a gang, so you can not play that game against a gang.

 

Finally, I have given up on gold boxes.

 

 

My advice on drugs is to only buy the 1,000 supply box, it is pricey but worth saving for, by the time they run out you will have nearly enough to buy more again. I have thousands of mines because on my other account I only get the 1,000 supply box but I dont really use mines so I usually have a lot left over by the time I get a new supply. So some games if I am bored or tired I will lay mines everywhere , just throwing them away really.

 

Yup undeclared clans are highly annoying because it is not a level playing field, a group used to playing together with assigned roles will easily defeat a rag tag bunch of thrown together random players.

 

Gold Box you say? What is that? lol

I don't know how the top gold box earners can reach into the 20's, I can be in games for an hour or two and nothing and when one does fall I may see it but I aint going to be able to get it. so to get around 3 of them a day is fishy to me, of course they may just be highly ranked individuals who are in a lot of high drug games which would increase drop rate. But for some to be averaging 3 a day seems suspect to me.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Hi,

 

I think you need to clarify this a bit, it is sounding like you are setting yourself up as both judge and jury. I mean I am often sniped at by someone I have not even seen and it takes me several lives to find them. So just because a player comes out of hiding to try for a gold box, it does not necessarily mean they have only just joined. Attacking innocent players is not going to help, so you would have to be very careful in who you decide is cheating.

 

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My advice on drugs is to only buy the 1,000 supply box, it is pricey but worth saving for, by the time they run out you will have nearly enough to buy more again. I have thousands of mines because on my other account I only get the 1,000 supply box but I dont really use mines so I usually have a lot left over by the time I get a new supply. So some games if I am bored or tired I will lay mines everywhere , just throwing them away really.

 

Yup undeclared clans are highly annoying because it is not a level playing field, a group used to playing together with assigned roles will easily defeat a rag tag bunch of thrown together random players.

 

Gold Box you say? What is that? lol

I don't know how the top gold box earners can reach into the 20's, I can be in games for an hour or two and nothing and when one does fall I may see it but I aint going to be able to get it. so to get around 3 of them a day is fishy to me, of course they may just be highly ranked individuals who are in a lot of high drug games which would increase drop rate. But for some to be averaging 3 a day seems suspect to me.

I am aware of it how it sounds, but it is usually pretty easy to spot the ones that are only in there for their own interests. Everyone has seen "has gold dropped yet?" If you look at the score and they have 0 kills and 0 points they clearly just joined. These "gold box hunters" watch for battles with high battles funds and low player counts. They join in the hopes of a gold drop within a short period of time. Once it does they are set up to grab it, and even if they don't they usually leave right after the drop. There are certain combos that work better then others. If you do that all day long your odds of grabbing 3 a day go way up. I my opinion, agree or not, this is not to far off from stealing. The faster the battle fund is increased, the less time you have to wait on average for a gold to drop. So again in my opinion, the box belongs to those who have put in the time to build the battle fund, not "gold box hunters". I guess we will not ever change this behaviour, seeing as Tanki is now promoting it with "gold box hunter of the week" in the v-blogs.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Front page post edited again lots more stuff added. 

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Links to important information.

[Beep_me 4]

Thanks Canadian_Eh (great name by the way).

 

My concern it that while you recon you are well-versed in spotting gold box grabbers, remember if you are encouraging lots of others to join in, they may not be as skillful as you, or as careful and it will turn into a witch-hunt / vigilantism.  Or worse, be used falsely by some as a reprisal for loosing a battle.

 

PLEASE don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying it is a bad idea, it is a really good one! I just want to ensure it is workable and then hopefully we can get something done about cheats.

 

Yet again this morning, I reported several cheats and nothing was done (apparently) about them. I have started saying in chat their name, that the have cheated and that they have been reported. It is odd how whatever language they speak, they seem to understand those words and I am learning so many foreign swear words in the attacks in chat against me!

 

There is a (new?) moderator in chat on the non-server page. He / She seems REALLY good last night, banning lots of people for foul language, etc. I sure hope they stay on top of it, I actually complimented them, let them know at least ONE person appreciated what they were doing.

 

Now I have realized from the "Loading Adobe..." splash screen at the start often being in Russian, that this game must be Russian - But it does seem that the games where most people are chatting in Cyrillic rather than English, are the games where reporting someone seems to be ignored - Like the Russian games are the ones where a greater level of moral flexibility is tolerated?

 

I guess the reason there are not more official "guards", is that it would cost too much? Tanki seems to be funded by selling crystals, so I suspect that getting high-quality volunteer moderators who can spare so much time and for day-after-day is really difficult. I think they are doing well, but clearly not well enough for some battles. I think we do have to do something ourselves to help, or too many people will leave Tanki as it stops being fun when so many cheat, or are "unsporting".

 

So even though it makes me a prime target in battles, and in battles forever after, since they keep a look-out for my name afterwards...I DO REPORT every cheater I suspect and usually put a warning in chat that I have reported them.

 

I did wonder this morning, if it might help if all supporters of this idea, changed our names to WE_REPORT_ALL_CHEATERS-00001, 00002, etc.We can change our names can't we? And if so, does anyone think that this might help remind players that they never know when a "reporter" might just be stopping by their battle?

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

@Beep_me Thank-you for your input. It sounds like you are doing what needs to be done. I applaud you.  I really wish people wouldn't focus so much on the gold box comments. This a minor or secondary issue compared to the others we are fighting. It seems the simplest thing would be for me to remove what I have said about "gold box hunters". However I have already said it and I will just have to deal with the negative feedback of this point. I still maintain that "gold box hunting" is disrespectful to the players that are fighting to trigger the drop in the first place. I'm not encouraging people to go on a hunt for them. It is up to the individual to decide if they agree with "gold box hunting" or not. Just to be clear even if you are killing "gold box hunters" it is not against the rules. 

Edited August 24, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[trombone_ftw 734]

The Tanki Spontaneous Parkour Team supports this :)

[fahim_the_boss 1,519]

100th reply :)

[Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang 0]

100th reply :)

and a very enlightening and productive reply it was to   :rolleyes:

[wild001 786]

The Best Way to Against Mults is Multing itself,

 

 

1. make sure you have more friends in game 

 

(which are same ranks as you, so can enter same rank battle)

 

2. invite friends to join the enemy team if you have a mult problem in game,

so your friends on enemy side can kill that multing "teammate" for your team.

help each other against mult, since your friends is actually make killing, so your friend is not a mult technically, but your friends should focus on killing that mult only, and with saying "I am here to kill mults",

 

so your teammates should not kill that "Helper" in enemy side.

 

 

3. The enemy choose to mult are always weak team, and always have free slot for your "Mult killer friend" to join in.

solution solve.

 

 

Make Friends, and We are the only people that can help each other.

 

 

Vote UP to support this idea. :D 

 

Join a Anti-Mult Ally: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=217363

 

 

by the way,

 

Freeze, Fire, Isida are the best mult-killer, make more friends with that combo; or at least 2 railgun friends if mult not using prodigi.  :lol:

Edited August 25, 2014 by wild001

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Yes! Definitely will join this army :p

[Beep_me 4]

Well yet again reporting players in a battle seemed to get no response from the mod, BUT saying they had been reported in chat got them to stop - And me a real torrent of abuse! - Which I told them had been reported as well.

 

I also gave the link to this article, so hopefully word will start to pass around that more and more people are willing to report them, whether team games or solo battles.

 

Funnily enough, after I posted the link, about 1/3 of the players left the game, showing just how much cheating was going on.

 

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Well yet again reporting players in a battle seemed to get no response from the mod, BUT saying they had been reported in chat got them to stop - And me a real torrent of abuse! - Which I told them had been reported as well.

 

I also gave the link to this article, so hopefully word will start to pass around that more and more people are willing to report them, whether team games or solo battles.

 

Funnily enough, after I posted the link, about 1/3 of the players left the game, showing just how much cheating was going on.

Good job. Same is happening for myself and a few of our other supporters as well. But this just shows that something this simple is having an effect.  Everyone keep it up.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[MA3CTPO_HA_XAHTEP 832]

I miss old system called "kick system". I hope it will be back someday ...

Good job, btw. :)

Edited August 25, 2014 by MA3CTPO_HA_XAHTEP

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I miss old system called "kick system". I hope it will be back someday ...

Good job, btw. :)

You may want to look at this topic.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=217642

It is an idea for a new "team kick" system that @AbsoluteZero and myself have been working. Mostly him actually.

You can discuss it all over there.  

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

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Your idea does have some merit, However I can't help to think, what will your friend do after he rids your team of the mult? Will he switch sides or will he sabotage the other team? If it was made very clear that once the mult is gone that your friends leave the other side, then maybe it might be an ok solution. If he stays but chooses to only kill non-friends then he, himself is now a saboteur. Hopefully you can see where the problems might come up.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Canadian_Eh

[Zakintosh 39]

I like the general idea of this topic.

My idea is to add a kills/destroyed statistic to the account, like the in-battle D/L.

Battles with higher ranks can only be joined by people with a certain rating. People who mult won't have the rating to do so.