Player's Moderation: Kick2

[deadtoyou 2,502]

None of the above, changed his name because he is a huge fan of @AbsoluteZero. They only know each other in the game, and live in different countries.

Ah, ok. :)

 

But wouldn't that Technically make them Best Friends? :)

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I would say no, seeing as there are a few decades difference in age. They are just clan mates.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Ah, ok. :)

 

But wouldn't that Technically make them Best Friends? :)

He's younger than my daughter! :o

[deadtoyou 2,502]

He's younger than my daughter! :o

:blush:

 

:lol:

[RustyNail 1,538]

None of the above, changed his name because he is a huge fan of @AbsoluteZero. They only know each other in the game, and live in different countries.

 

LOL If I ever decide to change my nick, I will apply for Absolute_Me. LOL and LOL again :D

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

I still dont understand there are many ll.angels.ll and many I eat my bullets, but the Absolute's get the attention :p

 

Anyway let's get over 200+ Likes on this kick Idea!

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

The idea is too long to read but i am in for anything that will fight mults +1 from me.

[Canadian_Bandit 81]

Come on Tankers Let Do This .

Let Show The Dev's We Want This In Our Game.

And We Need It In The Game Too.

Now Let Do This.

Let's Get This Post Over 500 Like's We Can Do This !!! 500 Tankers Not 200  ;)  :)

[Canadian_Bandit 81]

Come on Tankers Let Do This .

Let Show The Dev's We Want This In Our Game.

And We Need It In The Game Too.

Now Let Do This.

Let's Get This Post Over 500 Like's We Can Do This !!! 500 Tankers Not 200   ;)  :)  :D

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

Come on Tankers Let Do This .

Let Show The Dev's We Want This In Our Game.

And We Need It In The Game Too.

Now Let Do This.

Let's Get This Post Over 500 Like's We Can Do This !!! 500 Tankers Not 200  ;)  :)

Why 500? You mean 1000 ;) But serious, let's share this will all our Friends :)

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

..maybe you should really write a short summary, that states what pain is adressed here, what the idea is about, what the, and that there are good measures against misuse. Then hide the rest in a spoiler..

would make it much easier to read.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

..maybe you should really write a short summary, that states what pain is adressed here, what the idea is about, what the, and that there are good measures against misuse. Then hide the rest in a spoiler..

would make it much easier to read.

It needs to be comprehensive to address all the things that players worry about.

Did you read the Newspaper interview? It's still quite long but possible more straight forward.

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

You are most probably more then 20 years old, have a job and understand the importance of comprehenseive information.

While on the other hand most of the players here are 12..14 years.. and most of the guys this age won't read so much (if they don't ave to).

Because of this experience I made here, I think that a preliminary summary (while the more comprehenseive information is hidden behind a spoiler) would lead to more people getting an idea what you plan and would most likely lead to more supporters.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

It is hard to condense the idea down to a few sentences. Many people will just read "kicked from battle" and panic. It already happens. Heaven forbid someone gets excluded from something because it is inappropriate for them to participate.  Here is a real short summary. 

 

This "KICK System; Version 2.1" will require you play in appropriate battles based on your equipment and skill, help your team, and play to the best of your abilities at all times or take the risk you will be kicked by your teammates. Don't worry there are lots of safety features built in to prevent abuse by dishonest people. As long as you are playing hard and contributing you will be safe from being kicked.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 Here is a real short summary. 

 

This "KICK System; Version 2.1" will require you play in appropriate battles based on your equipment and skill, help your team, and play to the best of your abilities at all times or take the risk you will be kicked by your teammates. Don't worry there are lots of safety features built in to prevent abuse by dishonest people. As long as you are playing hard and contributing you will be safe from being kicked.

and this is why there is no summary because every word needs to be triple checked and then checked again. It's too easy to say something that can be misinterpreted which later will get picked out by someone who will then vote the idea down because of it.

 

Kick2 doesn't "require you to play in appropriate battles based on your equipment and skill"

It also doesn't demand you play "hard".

 

It's so easy to find something wrong in such a short summary, hence the comprehensive and detailed description.

Kirby2008 asked the right questions in the interview and I kept the answers as brief and concise as possible.

I'll give it some thought over the coming days and try to add something.

Thanks for the input @Rohrmeister

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Hey guys,

I totally agree, that making a short summary on a complex tpoic is a hard cookie.. especially the contradiction between "decide which info is really necessary for the reader" -vs- "I know so many details I have thought about, to make this idea really good".

So.. I wish you good luck on that.

regards, Rohr'

[Batmode_ON 60]

Would probably force players to amass scores too quickly if the rate of points earned by other players is significantly greater, however i could see this working

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Would probably force players to amass scores too quickly if the rate of points earned by other players is significantly greater, however i could see this working

Better too quickly than too slowly or not at all. Play to a standard set by your teammates or run the risk of being kicked by them.

[Batmode_ON 60]

LOL If I ever decide to change my nick, I will apply for Absolute_Me. LOL and LOL again :D

Do it  :lol:

[RustyNail 1,538]

It is hard to condense the idea down to a few sentences. Many people will just read "kicked from battle" and panic. It already happens. Heaven forbid someone gets excluded from something because it is inappropriate for them to participate.  Here is a real short summary. 

 

This "KICK System; Version 2.1" will require you play in appropriate battles based on your equipment and skill, help your team, and play to the best of your abilities at all times or take the risk you will be kicked by your teammates. Don't worry there are lots of safety features built in to prevent abuse by dishonest people. As long as you are playing hard and contributing you will be safe from being kicked.

LOL No offence friend, but maybe you should use an advertiser to "cook" this essay.. For instance, instead of assuring players that they have nothing to loose from this idea (which may make them worry "why, you mean I could get kicked out of a battle if I don't do well enough??? No thanks!"), maybe it would be better to point out what they have to earn from this idea. Like..

Aren't you sick and tired of teammates that don't care for the team and sabotage your efforts?

Wouldn't you want your team to perform better increasing the possibility for a win and thus more funds?

Why tolerate a noob that enters the battle on your side only to fight alike friend and foe for the flag?

etc etc..

:)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

LOL No offence friend, but maybe you should use an advertiser to "cook" this essay.. For instance, instead of assuring players that they have nothing to loose from this idea (which may make them worry "why, you mean I could get kicked out of a battle if I don't do well enough??? No thanks!"), maybe it would be better to point out what they have to earn from this idea. Like..

Aren't you sick and tired of teammates that don't care for the team and sabotage your efforts?

Wouldn't you want your team to perform better increasing the possibility for a win and thus more funds?

Why tolerate a noob that enters the battle on your side only to fight alike friend and foe for the flag?

etc etc..

:)

Good point but nobody is saying you could get kicked for not doing well enough.

I am saying you could get kicked if your performance is mult-like when compared to your teammates.

Kick2 doesn't demand you perform well. I've made it clear that your performance can be below average. It's only when it is extremely poor do you run the risk of receiving votes. Even then you are given a chance to stop acting like a mult. If you continue to act like a mult then you could get kicked.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

We can try and sell this to the players all we want, it makes no difference. It is the game designers/developers that we need to sell this to and they are not interested. Players have been complaining about this issue for a very very long time and nothing ever get done about. I personally have wasted enough time suggesting ways to make this game better only to be ignored for the most part. This topic has been open since August 2014 and not one single game designer or developer could be bothered to take 5 minutes to respond.  Sorry @AbsoluteZero , but I'm done wasting time on something that will never happen. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

We can try and sell this to the players all we want, it makes no difference. It is the game designers/developers that we need to sell this to and they are not interested. Players have been complaining about this issue for a very very long time and nothing ever get done about. I personally have wasted enough time suggesting ways to make this game better only to be ignored for the most part. This topic has been open since August 2014 and not one single game designer or developer could be bothered to take 5 minutes to respond.  Sorry @AbsoluteZero , but I'm done wasting time on something that will never happen. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.

It's all about expectations isn't it. I haven't got any so I can't get disappointed. Have I enjoyed the challenge of designing a system that could work? With your help, yes. Would it be nice if the devs took something from this? Sure. There aren't that many suggestions that get nearly 200+1's in reputation and that goes a long way to prove players want something done. They can either listen to us or ignore us. Forgive the oxymoron but their silence is deafening. Still, I'll continue to maintain this topic for as long as I'm allowed and live in hope it is of some use to somebody in the future.

[TheWolf 34]

Another way to help make this fair, is that the kick option is removed once per battle only for the duration that someone is paused. 

 

We all need to go pee occasionally!!! 

[TheWolf 34]

Better too quickly than too slowly or not at all. Play to a standard set by your teammates or run the risk of being kicked by them.

I see an issue with this if the rest of the team are drugging hard while you have none.