Player's Moderation: Kick2

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Another way to help make this fair, is that the kick option is removed once per battle only for the duration that someone is paused.

 

We all need to go pee occasionally!!!

No need to pause this for that reason as it's works from averages.

 

 

I see an issue with this if the rest of the team are drugging hard while you have none.

No issue there either. This system copes with this. You need to fall below both 55% of team average score and team average work rate for this to be a worry. Remember, it's not 55% of the top scorer!

 

Consideration should be given by players when joining battles. If you join a potential drug war where you have no intention of using supplies and you perform so badly you can't stay within 55% of the averages then you are performing your side a disservice. You only have yourself to blame for being kicked.

 

All issues have been catered for. There are no weak areas to this idea. If you think you found one, create a scenario, show me some numbers and we'll go from there.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

WARNING !!

 

The following comments may be offensive to some players. 

 

 

I have reviewed most of the comments about potential problems with a system like this. I seems to me that most of the people complaining about or have a problem with this system, fit into 3 categories. 

1. Selfish and inconsiderate players, who don't care about anyone else.
2. Dishonest players, which also don't care about anyone and do what they do to serve their own interests. 
3. Players that just don't understand the concept or the need for this system. 

The people that fit in the #3 category may be there for a few different reasons. Either they didn't  take the time to read, or can't properly read english, or lack the education to understand what they have read.

 

 

I don't care if you believe me or not, but this game is absolutely filled with players from the first 2 categories. I used to play this game 7 days a week, several hours a day, so probably around 25 -30 hours a week. Now I hardly play 3 -5  a week. If you want to know why, it is because it has become very difficult to find good battles. Ones without mults,saboteurs,hackers,cheaters,and players who don't have a clue whats going on. Until Tanki HQ gets their heads out of the sand and do something about this issue, it will not get any better. It will only get worse and after the latest SMP updates we will soon be facing players that do not have good enough equipment to fight in the battles their ranks will allow, and most of these players will be too selfish to go play in appropriate battles. They will come into the high rank battles in search of crystals or will join the large groups of players that go around raiding battles by taking turns being the mults because thats all their accounts will be good for. 

 

What I just described is exactly why @AbsoluteZero came up with this idea in the first place and exactly why I chose to work with him during the development stages. Now what I can't figure out is why Tanki HQ is so unwilling to add this system. I have heard lots of excuses but none that make sense. So the only reason I can come up with is, that it is in Tanki's best interest to have all these people ruining honest games, it most increase sales of crystals for supplies and stronger equipment in order to try and combat this plaque.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nltobh 498]

I don't remember If I posted something on this topic. I would love to see this in the game and probation period where you have. A chance to bring up your score is a great idea if you don't do it within 4 minutes your out. And can't rejoin unless the battle has finished.. GREAT IDEA +1 there will also be less mules and more fair battles..

[neajohn 0]

My topic was marked as duplicate:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=250330

 

Here is my idea.

 

 

These days, game is full of mults. For just one player the final result is changed. Even if the other players are good, one mult is changing the result. Many times you see low rank players entering just to ask for "gold box".

Probably a penalty system of XP points is required against mults.

 

A new voting system in team play is a must, based on few criteria.

 

1. Voting system is active on team with less points.

2. Voting system is active only if number of slots is at maximum.

3. A player is eligible based on his D/L or number of minutes (pauses).

4. The player is dropped when 50% of the teammates will vote against that player. A mult will not vote for other mult, so 50% probably would be the best.

 

This way is simple and very easy to implement. It will solve a lot of issues and increase the game quality.

Players are forced to play better, to acquire better weapons.

[thunderousrailgunner 1,934]

I Need This System So Bad  :o

[neajohn 0]

We are all waiting this KICK 2nd. It's a must!

The original system was easily abused. But the solution is very simple. Check my 4 points idea.

[andreih2000 11]

Yes, I agree!!! :) :) :)

[T.O.R_The-Unique 33]

Yes,i agree !!! It is a good idea :D :D :D

[RustyNail 1,538]

Zero, take a look in this please and tell me, is that possible?

Thanks..

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=250279&hl=

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

My topic was marked as duplicate:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=250330

 

Here is my idea.

 

1. Voting system is active on team with less points.

2. Voting system is active only if number of slots is at maximum.

3. A player is eligible based on his D/L or number of minutes (pauses).

4. The player is dropped when 50% of the teammates will vote against that player. A mult will not vote for other mult, so 50% probably would be the best.

1. Surely you can have mults on both sides and it's pretty unfair on the side that's winning that they can't get rid of their mult

2. I don't think we should have to wait until sides are full to switch voting on.

3. Basing kicks on D/L is a definite no. An Isida can finish top having a d/l of 0/50

4. This is what we had last time and was abused.

 

Kick2 is as close and simple as you're gonna get to a fair system, based from score and time.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Zero, take a look in this please and tell me, is that possible?

Thanks..

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=250279&hl=

Probably. You'd have to understand how the scoreboard is programmed and what would it do in the event of an error.

[neajohn 0]

1. Surely you can have mults on both sides and it's pretty unfair on the side that's winning that they can't get rid of their mult

2. I don't think we should have to wait until sides are full to switch voting on.

3. Basing kicks on D/L is a definite no. An Isida can finish top having a d/l of 0/50

4. This is what we had last time and was abused.

 

Kick2 is as close and simple as you're gonna get to a fair system, based from score and time.

1. It was an idea to make the game balanced. If both teams have voting system enabled then weak players have absolutely no way to play altogether with higher ranks. The idea was to enable voting system when it's absolutely necessary.

2. The same idea. Voting in my opinion should be enabled when it's absolutely necessary. If game is equal then voting system is useless.

3. I'm talking here about D/L of 0.10-0.20 maybe lower when player is absolutely an outsider. But this may be combined with number of minutes he is not really playing (pauses) or other criteria etc. etc. etc.

4. This is the final step. It's not possible to vote for a player if D/L is acceptable or he don't use too many pauses  etc.

 

With all these ideas Kick2 may become very strong and accurate.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Probably. You'd have to understand how the scoreboard is programmed and what would it do in the event of an error.

Thanks Zero, lordmostafa answered the question. It can be a glitch.. Thanks :)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 

Ayes 215 & Nays 15

Players have spoken.

Time for tanki to listen!

 

[sid262 283]

am the 201th one ....... B)

[McMacklemore 39]

202 xD

 

Seems useful especially when u have fruitless team mates, and times where a person (maybe many) doesn't help, but sabotages and all

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

I will be a forumer till 2 things are fixed

- My ping

- Mults

[RustyNail 1,538]

I will be a forumer till 2 things are fixed

- My ping

- Mults

:mellow:

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

:mellow:

?

[RustyNail 1,538]

?

Nothing really, I mean it's a pity but I can understand you...

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I will be a forumer till 2 things are fixed

- My ping

- Mults

You may be here, in the forum for a very long time. Sad that Tanki does not care that their high ranking players are leaving the game due to the same frustration you are feeling. 

 

Actually it would not surprize me to see some future update  that closes your account after you reach all M4 equipment to force you to start over and spend more money. LOL

[RustyNail 1,538]

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Actually it would not surprize me to see some future update  that closes your account after you reach all M4 equipment to force you to start over and spend more money. LOL

:wacko: :(

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Actually it would not surprize me to see some future update  that closes your account after you reach all M4 equipment to force you to start over and spend more money. LOL

Why don't you suggest it. :blink:

Seriously, I would do something like that if they said I had the option of taking 70% of my garage's worth, with me back to Recruit.

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

Why don't you suggest it. :blink:

Seriously, I would do something like that if they said I had the option of taking 70% of my garage's worth, with me back to Recruit.

But then you will lose your honor, like this topic. When an account will be deleted the posts will be deleted too I think :$

[newrohan 1,040]

Can The players on opposite team give someone kick vote?