Player's Moderation: Kick2

[Mr.71 123]

 

Mults cannot be allowed to win. No system is 100% perfect but we can all try to come up with solutions to get it as close as possible.

I agree no system can be 100%,  I like the idea I just want something that will work well and this seems well thought out with alot of potential. After all we don't want a system like the last one.

 

Anyway well done on the idea and keeping the thread going and answering all the questions, think you have done a great job.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I agree no system can be 100%,  I like the idea I just want something that will work well and this seems well thought out with alot of potential. After all we don't want a system like the last one.

 

Anyway well done on the idea and keeping the thread going and answering all the questions, think you have done a great job.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Lets just hope the Developers see the same potential we see. They haven't said no yet, that's a good sign.We have all seen other ideas get shut down within the first day.

[smeghead62 0]

Still undecided on this. I like to use twins a lot and find a lot of the time that you are close to a kill only for a rail smoky etc to steal it so it makes your score look as though you aren't trying when in reality you have been!. Another example is attacking first to soften up a defence so a team mate following behind can get a flag which is another effective way to use twins.

I think in reality it would still be open to abuse by a team entering a battle and trying to take over

I like what you are trying to do though. Good effort! My highest account is Field Marshal so i am not a noob!

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I think in reality it would still be open to abuse by a team entering a battle and trying to take over

I like what you are trying to do though. Good effort! My highest account is Field Marshal so i am not a noob!

Please explain how a take-over team could vote you out if you've been there already for a while?

You have a certain amount of protection if you've already got points on the board.

It would take a long time before they could acquire the votes necessary to kick you.

This has been thought about and addressed already.

This is why the votes are split into score-votes and ppmvotes.

 

There is nothing in the rules about take-over teams (or raiders). They are entitled to do this though none of us like being on the receiving end of it. If you had 500 pts accumulated when they come in, they all have to score in the region of 900-1000 on average to even start issuing you score-votes, and, even by the time they reach 900-1000, you would have increased your score making it even harder for them.

 

It's also been designed to not allow you to be put on probation by others on score alone. You also have to be outside the safe zones for ppm-work-rate too. Even then you get time and opportunity to come back.

 

There is little scope for abuse.

 

 

I like to use twins a lot and find a lot of the time that you are close to a kill only for a rail smoky etc to steal it so it makes your score look as though you aren't trying when in reality you have been!. Another example is attacking first to soften up a defence so a team mate following behind can get a flag which is another effective way to use twins.

 

Again, this has been addressed.

The 55% figure exists for these reasons. Allowances have been made for people stealing your kills.

It's unlikely that you will find yourself outside of the safe zones if you're trying and are strong enough to be there, and by that I mean, don't enter a high ranking battle with m0 twins. I could try in an m0 wasp and m0 smoky for example, but I'd still be a mult playing against Brigadiers.

 

 

All in all, we've designed this your concerns in mind and I'm confident it would stand up in battle.

[Loser_100_percent 50]

-facepalm- Why dont you all ban the equipment in a battle then ??? Why should we cut off equipment ?Shaft us the best gun in Monte carlo(example) , now one W05 has shaft M0 , even though he is scoring nice kills ... Will this new "Kick2" ban him for "obselete" equipment ? I dont think so.

[ALEKSEJ0077 150]

This is a well thought out system and it seems you have been working for it weeks if not even months this is a great idea. But i think the main problem of kick was that most people didnt know what it is like me . I always used to see the bottom players with " dislikes " and i just then pressed the kick button so that is one reason of the abused kicks.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

This is a well thought out system and it seems you have been working for it weeks if not even months this is a great idea. But i think the main problem of kick was that most people didnt know what it is like me . I always used to see the bottom players with " dislikes " and i just then pressed the kick button so that is one reason of the abused kicks.

Safeguards are in place for kick2. People who would get kicked under this system would deserve it.

[dragonite7 20]

This kick2 thing is strating to look better and better ;)  hope they add this to the game, anyway, what about small maps like island? if a take-over team joined and it was a time battle and loads of time was left, theyd easily be able to get points that, on average could potentially double yours, since the teams are small, please explain how the kick2 would protect the player that has been there for a while, since if you have enough time its pretty easy to even treble their points.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

We need this!

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

This kick2 thing is strating to look better and better ;)  hope they add this to the game, anyway, what about small maps like island? if a take-over team joined and it was a time battle and loads of time was left, theyd easily be able to get points that, on average could potentially double yours, since the teams are small, please explain how the kick2 would protect the player that has been there for a while, since if you have enough time its pretty easy to even treble their points.

Thanks. It wouldn't protect you because, annoying as it is, the takeover team broke no rules! To them, you look like the mults hindering their progress. This doesn't mean that kick2 has failed because they're actually playing the game within the rules. In this scenario, the original players can't keep up for any number of reasons and therefore cannot be given additional protection other than the protection accorded to them in the first place.

 

Considerations should be given by any player when joining a battle.

Are you a weaker rank? (wo5's can play with generalisimos)

Do you have the skill to play amongst the ranks that can play?

Do you have the tank to play amongst the ranks that can play?

etc...

 

I was in a battle today, we were 25-0 down because of the mults on my side and /vote didn't work as per usual.

 

 

 

 

I was thinking about leaving but thought no, I'm staying.

A bunch of raiders came in and my side won 100-25

 

 

 

 

 

I had to drug too and believe me, I didn't feel bad about it either because the reds didn't think twice about killing us when we had the mults on our team.

 

Maybe the cool-downs will have a positive effect on the game with respect to raiders. It may even help them should they master it. I don't know. None of us like being on the receiving end but I don't know what rules they break.

 

I think that another suggestion is needed to work in conjunction with this one to stop raiders. What do you suggest?

[Pathfinder 1,690]

With the new smart cool downs, this kick system should be even more effective :)

 

Harder for takeover teams to kick people out... Since it's harder to takeover!

[dragonite7 20]

Thanks. It wouldn't protect you because, annoying as it is, the takeover team broke no rules! To them, you look like the mults hindering their progress. This doesn't mean that kick2 has failed because they're actually playing the game within the rules. In this scenario, the original players can't keep up for any number of reasons and therefore cannot be given additional protection other than the protection accorded to them in the first place.

 

Considerations should be given by any player when joining a battle.

Are you a weaker rank? (wo5's can play with generalisimos)

Do you have the skill to play amongst the ranks that can play?

Do you have the tank to play amongst the ranks that can play?

etc...

 

I was in a battle today, we were 25-0 down because of the mults on my side and /vote didn't work as per usual.

 

 

 

 

I was thinking about leaving but thought no, I'm staying.

A bunch of raiders came in and my side won 100-25

 

 

 

 

 

I had to drug too and believe me, I didn't feel bad about it either because the reds didn't think twice about killing us when we had the mults on our team.

 

Maybe the cool-downs will have a positive effect on the game with respect to raiders. It may even help them should they master it. I don't know. None of us like being on the receiving end but I don't know what rules they break.

 

I think that another suggestion is needed to work in conjunction with this one to stop raiders. What do you suggest?

Well, i dont think you should add anything to stop raiders, they dont break rules, its just that when you're in the receiving end its painful. Also, i guess even though raiders will keep on existing with this new drugs thing they'll probably earn less points so i guess players who are in the game will be safe for longer. Anyway i don't thinkanything should be added to stop raiders. If i think of something very accurate that only stops them from kicking players ill post it here tho :) ;)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Thanks for the 77 +1's everyone.

It was good discussing this and keeping the massive problem of mults etc in the spotlight.

We've worked together and provided a solution that works from Time and Score.

 

Thanks to tanki for not closing this and letting conversation flow and ideas and solutions to develop.

 

Hopefully it will give ideas to the Devs when they work on a new version of Team-Kick.

[Zakkyxpoo189 2]

Can you rejoin the battle after it ends if you were kicked?

[Mr_STIFFLER 1,408]

Players must have the choice to kick or no !! :angry: 

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Players must have the choice to kick or no !! :angry: 

.Players do have the choice whether to use this kick system or not.

 

Can you rejoin the battle after it ends if you were kicked?

No you can not re-enter the same battle

[I.Prince_of_Albania 278]

i just got unbanned right now from a week ban, reason i got ban wos that i wos shouting at multis get out u @#$# i wos really mad because there wos a 100 flag battle and we lost even tho i wasted all my drugs i couldnt win because some guys were standing there and doing nothing...

[Guest Maserati]

Player Kick won't come as people can still abuse it.

Best way is if they put more mods that are more active to help out.

[I.Prince_of_Albania 278]

more mods please.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 

Player Kick won't come as people can still abuse it.

Best way is if they put more mods that are more active to help out.

 

You can't abuse this one unless you are going to enlighten everyone. No? Thought so!

[trombone_ftw 734]

WE NEED this! Ok? Ok. Please.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

WOW Truly Amazing

 

Over 2 months and 12 pages later and still 0 responses from Tanki Developers.  

For a company that claims to care about what players have to say, they sure have a funny way of showing it.

I sent a multi paragraph PM to explaining the concept of this idea, his response was a whopping 4 words. "I've read them all" I responded with the same sort of disrespect he gave me and simply asked "and?"  That was over a month ago and still no comment from him.

 

As I already said Truly Amazing

[RustyNail 1,538]

I can say, I 'm really dissapointed by the attitude of TO Administration after the update. It's their game, they can do whatever they want with it, but if they want to ignore their customers' opinion on different matters they can simply terminate the forum and that's ok. Having a forum for your customers' expression which you ignore on serious matters is valid ground for thinking that all you want is a bunch of 12yo to write "wow! woderfull TO thank you very much for milking us this way!" LOL

 

 

ps. sorry (TO) that I have an opinion and arguments of my own.. you know what I'm talking about... but never mind, like I said, it's your game.

 

ps2. btw, guys it's a very good work you've done with Kick 2, I hope that eventually comes alive because neither mults, nor druggers have decreased, and the game is still bothering sometimes.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

ps2. btw, guys it's a very good work you've done with Kick 2, I hope that eventually comes alive because neither mults, nor druggers have decreased, and the game is still bothering sometimes.

Thanks. A lot of the community got involved which made this suggestion evolve to a point where it became a viable solution to many of the problems players face.

 

Players should still give this a +1 if you want to add your voice.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I will start to advertise this as much as possible, and I encourage everyone else to do the same. If someone can put this up on the Facebook and twitter pages that would be great. If we want something done about this huge problem then we will need to make Tanki sit up and take notice, because right now they are not interested in fixing it.