Wishing the Best to those who are leaving

[MonkeyMagic 89]

No I'm pretty sure that it's all in the EULA, that's the thing everyone just clicks when starting and never read because no one has spent money at that point. Then over time you forget about it when you whip out the credit card, it's only when things get crap you realise you just got owned.

I think we basically agreed that they can do what they like when they like.If you bought drugs and didn't get them then you would be covered by EU law but as it stands you paid for the drugs and you got them. 

 

 

7. User hereby acknowledges and accepts that he shall have no interest in the number of hours spent playing the Game and all activity developed during the playing of the Game shall be the Company’s sole and exclusive property.

 

Basically that account you are using is not yours.

 

9. The Company holds all proprietary and intellectual property rights to all Materials contained within the Game, and User agrees that he owns no rights to the Material within the Game, or other content contained within the Game, including, but not limited to, virtual goods or currency which is used in the Game. 

 

Basically those drugs in your inventory are not yours either,nor are the gems on that account actually yours. The minute you transfer your cash into online currency it becomes Tanki's.

 

 

Any use of this Game and its Online Facilities and/or clicking “Accept” at the registration form means that you are acquainted and agree with the underwritten Agreement, and unconditionally accept all this terms.

If you do not agree with the entire Agreement you have no right to use the Game and its services and you are obliged to leave the site immediately.

 

Pretty sure this is the bit that makes it legally binding.

 

The issue is more about trust, the companies Reputation. I guess Tanki has a high enough turnover of players that it doesn't matter if people leave with a bad taste in their mouth because there will be others to fill their shoes soon enough. 

Great posts!

 

I agree with your analysis above, but Im not sure the EULA can legally contain all of the above and claim it to be fully legally binding. just because its an agreement doesnt mean that agreement is in line with European law? Would be very interesting to see what a judge would make of this 'agreement'. There has to be some consumer protection. 

 

I also have a feeling that EULA has not been updated from the russian version......

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

No I'm pretty sure that it's all in the EULA, that's the thing everyone just clicks when starting and never read because no one has spent money at that point. Then over time you forget about it when you whip out the credit card, it's only when things get crap you realise you just got owned.

I think we basically agreed that they can do what they like when they like.If you bought drugs and didn't get them then you would be covered by EU law but as it stands you paid for the drugs and you got them. 

 

 

7. User hereby acknowledges and accepts that he shall have no interest in the number of hours spent playing the Game and all activity developed during the playing of the Game shall be the Company’s sole and exclusive property.

 

Basically that account you are using is not yours.

 

9. The Company holds all proprietary and intellectual property rights to all Materials contained within the Game, and User agrees that he owns no rights to the Material within the Game, or other content contained within the Game, including, but not limited to, virtual goods or currency which is used in the Game. 

 

Basically those drugs in your inventory are not yours either,nor are the gems on that account actually yours. The minute you transfer your cash into online currency it becomes Tanki's.

 

 

Any use of this Game and its Online Facilities and/or clicking “Accept” at the registration form means that you are acquainted and agree with the underwritten Agreement, and unconditionally accept all this terms.

If you do not agree with the entire Agreement you have no right to use the Game and its services and you are obliged to leave the site immediately.

 

Pretty sure this is the bit that makes it legally binding.

 

The issue is more about trust, the companies Reputation. I guess Tanki has a high enough turnover of players that it doesn't matter if people leave with a bad taste in their mouth because there will be others to fill their shoes soon enough. 

Small print does not curtail EU Law or US Law.  It is an advisory, a frightener.  Some of it might be binding and other bits not it would all depend on its legality.  What would be required is a detailed knowledge and understanding of appropriate field Law.  The sort of person that I envisage taking this to Law would be a student at Law School.  They would not make any noise on here, they would do their homework  and then take it on, perhaps using the college for advice.  Many of these people will have parents who might be Lawyers who may specialize or have links with colleagues that specialize in the appropriate Law..   We would only hear about it when it went to court.  It would be a quiet guy or gall, not a boastful big mouth.  The later just likes to make a nose but would most probably not approach Law or even seek advice.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Small print does not curtail EU Law or US Law.  It is an advisory, a frightener.  Some of it might be binding and other bits not it would all depend on its legality.  What would be required is a detailed knowledge and understanding of appropriate field Law.  The sort of person that I envisage taking this to Law would be a student at Law School.  They would not make any noise on here, they would do their homework  and then take it on, perhaps using the college for advice.  Many of these people will have parents who might be Lawyers who may specialize or have links with colleagues that specialize in the appropriate Law..   We would only hear about it when it went to court.  It would be a quiet guy or gall, not a boastful big mouth.  The later just likes to make a nose but would most probably not approach Law or even seek advice.

sorry but you dont have live in your own little world dear.

[canadarules 1,938]

all i am hearing from eliza

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

sorry but you dont have live in your own little world dear.

Sorry, the big mouth I was referring to was not you.  <_< 

[kmpa 830]

threatening tankionline with lawsuits shows that you've reached a new kind of low. This is a game, a game that we love. If tankionline feared of lawsuits everytime they wanted to change something, because there's ALWAYS going to be someone who isn't pleased with ANY changes, then this game would never be as good as it is today.

Edited October 6, 2014 by kmpa

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Who is threatening, surely people are just discussing things just like they might in a pub or Coffey House, harmless chat.  Though I do guess that people that may have spent thousand or hundreds of £££ $$$ might feel very angry.  Just because it is a game does not give the authority permission to disregard the Laws of what ever country their product is sold in.  If Tanki is EU based then it will have to comply with EU Law, the same in the US.  It is a product much like any other, Tanki is in reality not free for many, some pay a lot of money, Tanky World wide must make prodigious amounts.  People have bought things on here having some sort of advertising pressure, only to see that product immediately devalued in some way.  When Tanki makes changes,  such as to the supplies or to Tank capability it is generally not for purchases only from that date onward but is retrospective and includes good already sold and bought.  their might be an argument that the trade description act might have been invoked.  Perhaps their might be loopholes for on line things such as Kindle owning the books that have been bought and may have the right to remove them from someones account if it had been decides some regulation had been contravened.  The laws ins the US and EU are often slow to react to the internet but they do catch up eventually and huge multi million fines have been levied on some companies.  If it as me I would scrap new supplies and just allow every on e else to use their supplies up then that would be the end, however they make Tanki a lot of money so, that will not happen.

Edited October 6, 2014 by ELIZABETH1122

[Mr.71 123]

Its a game, whats with all this legal action rubbish. You decided to invest 100s maybe 1000s but you would have used alot of them supplies.

You had notice that is was changing the way you use supplies so could have used them before the cool downs came in.

 

And to the people that have invested 1000s into the game you know the risks, you are buying something that's not a real item it has 0 monetary value. If you have invested x amount over the years and feel the need to take them to court it would suggest  that you might have invested more into a game then maybe you should of.

[Jazzter 24]

Who is threatening, surely people are just discussing things just like they might in a pub or Coffey House, harmless chat.  Though I do guess that people that may have spent thousand or hundreds of £££ $$$ might feel very angry.  Just because it is a game does not give the authority ...

Your italic Times New Roman letters are much worse reading then the normal. Why the earth do you use that?

It demotivates (at least) me to read your post, that I believe you wrote to be read. Your choice though.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Your italic Times New Roman letters are much worse reading then the normal. Why the earth do you use that?

It demotivates (at least) me to read your post, that I believe you wrote to be read. Your choice though.

It is very simple, don't read it then!  If that is all that you have to say in contribute towards this or any other post, then don't bother.  You must have so much else to do with your time that is more worthy of your attention.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

It is very simple, don't read it then!  If that is all that you have to say in contribute towards this or any other post, then don't bother.  You must have so much else to do with your time that is more worthy of your attention.

But he's not alone who think this font is unreadable.

[Indian_Tanker 468]

Iv'e been playing this game for 3 years and I'm truly disappointed by what it's become. it's as if the developers don't listen to the players. at least 70% of the community are against this update. the majority of people complaining are the ones that cannot accept that drugging is a part of the game. Not that it matters, but some of the "famous" players are going to quit after this update. this game used to be great but after the refund it started to go downhill.

I agree dude

[Smok-Ti-Thun 93]

Its a game, whats with all this legal action rubbish. You decided to invest 100s maybe 1000s but you would have used alot of them supplies.

You had notice that is was changing the way you use supplies so could have used them before the cool downs came in.

 

And to the people that have invested 1000s into the game you know the risks, you are buying something that's not a real item it has 0 monetary value. If you have invested x amount over the years and feel the need to take them to court it would suggest  that you might have invested more into a game then maybe you should of.

^ second that

 

Even if you haven 't had the time to use up your supplies there are no worries: Tanki Online doubled your existing stack for free:

in my view that counts as a form of compensation.

 

Each supply first lasted for 60 seconds: now doubled they last for 2 times 45 seconds = 90 seconds!

 

So Tanki gave you 30 seconds more, see that as a compensation for not being able to use 234 at once.

 

All this legal action chit-chat? I agree with Elizabeth here: barking dogs never bite... :P

[Daniel898 327]

They should better leave than stay. Who needs druggers ruining all of these fun, eventful battles? Think about it, your team has demonstrated great skill and excellent work. Your in a 50 flag game and you have 46 flags, other has 19 flags. 3 players think there is no hope and leave, then 3 druggers come in with Over Powered Kits and Tyrannosaurs Wrecked the battle. Then your like:

 

[canadarules 1,938]

But he's not alone who think this font is unreadable.

me i am like

 

 

and she or he ignored my cute jigglypuff :(

[SpHryfBoss 573]

strange the poll thread was running for a week while the like vote was winning. poll options were incorrect. fixed and then HUGE majority vote against = CLOSED thread :lol:

 

Pathetic and 100% predicted.

 

and the guy above is correct, onve those druge are gone. you will all cry again about druggers. only now its the one shots from shaft that will hit hardest.....

 

 

to be fair you have been a massive noob from the start. sure you are happy :)

Of course Tanki would do that, they want to show that people want the update, but when they see the truth, they hide it from us and keep it from going any more against. 

 

Every battle I join now is a drug war, but I don't drug; I'm just waiting for the noobs to finish all their drugs and then rampage them when they have no drugs and maybe even have them buy drugs, which isn't at all worth it  I'm so evil!!

Edited October 6, 2014 by SpHryfBoss

[applications 993]

wrong only 10 precent are happy with update but vote with there alts to make it higher -_- this undate is badddd make shaft wayyy op then tanki will destroy kits because those ssame noobs who wanted to destroy drugs teh whole point of hits was to get equiptment before you can unlock it yet we are still complaining how buyers are pwning us -_- part of game nubs

[killen0 397]

Well to me, drugging became more fun, and It has more fun. So really this can become really great, and you can shot skill, talent if you a you-tuber . And If you follow all rules to make money from youtube, you will find maybe less or more subscribers and likes.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

wrong only 10 precent are happy with update but vote with there alts to make it higher -_- this undate is badddd make shaft wayyy op then tanki will destroy kits because those ssame noobs who wanted to destroy drugs teh whole point of hits was to get equiptment before you can unlock it yet we are still complaining how buyers are pwning us -_- part of game nubs

How can Shaft benefit from the changes any more than any other weapon?  For a start they normally do not wander around the battle field chasing blue boxes and supplies like other equipment, they are usually planted in a solitary position having to provide their own supplies and that is more often as not extra protection because shaft is a venerable sitting duck. Few of them will be presenting with more than one drug at a time.

 

While I do agree that the recent changes to supplies is unpopular by both sides.  The anti drug users, who are disappointed with the increased up take and the drug users, that are so hooked, appear to be suffering from withdrawal symptoms , delirium tremors, craving for a quick fix from a rusty needle.  I do not quite see how you can estimate the percentage of the disaffected, against those who support the change. Has the Sunday Times run a Pole.  Sure their is a lot of raucous hysteria but that is pretty much par for the course here.  Change, nay, even suggest,  the slightest change and people are practically jumping off cliffs like lemmings and pulling their hair out sobbing , threatening all sorts of action, insulting any one in disagreement.  Their is little sensible dialog or constructive criticism, most comments are lazily incoherent, poorly written text speak, littered with extensive hyperbole assumptions and gross inaccuracies.  That may appear to some, that their is extensive support for rebellion, but is their really, or is it just a host of spoiled overexcited adolescents venting their spleen because someone took away their dummy!

Edited October 8, 2014 by ELIZABETH1122

[killen0 397]

How can Shaft benefit from the changes any more than any other weapon?  For a start they normally do not wander around the battle field chasing blue boxes and supplies like other equipment, they are usually planted in a solitary position having to provide their own supplies and that is more often as not extra protection because shaft is a venerable sitting duck. Few of them will be presenting with more than one drug at a time.

 

While I do agree that the recent changes to supplies is unpopular by both sides.  The anti drug users, who are disappointed with the increased up take and the drug users, that are so hooked, appear to be suffering from withdrawal symptoms , delirium tremors, craving for a quick fix from a rusty needle.  I do not quite see how you can estimate the percentage of the disaffected, against those who support the change. Has the Sunday Times run a Pole.  Sure their is a lot of raucous hysteria but that is pretty much par for the course here.  Change, nay, even suggest,  the slightest change and people are practically jumping off cliffs like lemmings and pulling their hair out sobbing , threatening all sorts of action, insulting any one in disagreement.  Their is little sensible dialog or constructive criticism, most comments are lazily incoherent, poorly written text speak, littered with extensive hyperbole assumptions and gross inaccuracies.  That may appear to some, that their is extensive support for rebellion, but is their really, or is it just a host of spoiled overexcited adolescents venting their spleen because someone took away their dummy!

Well really, everyone mostly only uses double power, meaning shaft is more head of all other turrets due to fact that it can kill same modification and lower, and mostly you see wasp, hunters and hornets out there. Most turrets i saw after smart cool downs are, rail gun, thunder and shaft

[HillBillyJim 75]

You guys are absolutely PATHETIC.

 

#1: Its a bloody GAME. Calm down

#2: If you wasted good cash on a computer game, thats your problem. Buyer beware. 

#3: So sorry you cant use drugs all the time. Reality check, time to use some real skill. 

#4: Do you guys realize how pitiful you sound complaining like this?

 

Honestly, good riddance. 

[deadmanrising 715]

Update is not bringing any benefit to guys using lighter hulls as now they have given everyone an explosion of supplies meaning everyone will have to be dependent on them, except for shafts, thunders and railguns of course

[Regreted 52]

Play Pro battle and don`r cry

[magnaboy2 656]

You need to pay more attention to in game chat in a drug war. 80% complain about the druggers taking over the game.

Look at any server and you can see all the lopsided scores and most of those games have just one team while the other quit due to druggers.

 

I think you will see fuller and better balanced scores now.

 

By the way, is  the battle fund distribution been balanced so its not pretty much winner take all?  That will also keep people in games.

 

Thanks Tanki, awesome update.

It used to be winner takes all 3 years ago,best time of my life...

 

After rebalance and refund,this game has only gone downhill,not a nice way to lead a game TO devs,but I'm sure the newbies will like it...

Wish the best to those who are leaving or are going to play less often

U won't see me online alot either :P

[Amagi 1,728]

I could only imagine how hard the developers are laughing at the "threats" of these crying Gismos, as they fail to realize that this update isn't going to be cancelled. 

 

Play Pro battle and don`r cry

Okay, try looking for a pro battle below Marshal that isn't XP, and actually, YOU are the ones crying, while were rejoicing. :P