Eliminate Thunder self-damage

[M1Abram73 0]

Please eliminate Thunder self-damage.  First, Thunder is the only cannon that has self-damage.  It is unrealistic that an M3 Thunder user self-destroys themselves while an M1 or M2 of another cannon shoots one shot and wins.  Second, Railgun can penetrate multiple tanks with one shot, but there is no self damage.  Third, Thunder users are getting frustrated with self-damage and as a result are becoming less motivated to play Tankionline.  I'm sure a large number of your Tankionline users are using Thunder.  Last, self-damage is an unfair disadvantage and burden that ONLY Thunder users have to bare.  Please consider eliminating Thunder self-damage.  Thank you for understanding.

 

[surirajput 21]

yeah thunder self damage is pretty annoying and during gold box it becoms headache as everyone is so close firing upon them is impossible cuz of self damage. Please tanki remove self damage or make it less effective on user tank.

[kayitsiz 621]

Please eliminate Thunder self-damage.  First, Thunder is the only cannon that has self-damage.  It is unrealistic that an M3 Thunder user self-destroys themselves while an M1 or M2 of another cannon shoots one shot and wins.  Second, Railgun can penetrate multiple tanks with one shot, but there is no self damage.  Third, Thunder users are getting frustrated with self-damage and as a result are becoming less motivated to play Tankionline.  I'm sure a large number of your Tankionline users are using Thunder.  Last, self-damage is an unfair disadvantage and burden that ONLY Thunder users have to bare.  Please consider eliminating Thunder self-damage.  Thank you for understanding.

Ricochet has self damage.

Thunder have great damage, range because it has self-damage.

 

Self-damage remove=Damage, and range should be decreased.

 

By the way it is necessary.

[surirajput 21]

Ricochet has self damage.

Thunder have great damage, range because it has self-damage.

 

Self-damage remove=Damage, and range should be decreased.

 

By the way it is necessary.

ricochet has only little self damage and it does not self damages by hitting other tanks in close combact.

But in case of thunder user get great self damage when destroying enemy tank close to user.

[wild001 786]

then thunder is over powered,

 

the only chance rail vs thunder head-on to make rail win is to make use of thunder self damage,

 

or thunder will run like rail but at 3x fire rate, thunder will become next railgun at head-to-head flag catch.

[belegea 5]

I ts like gay fest. Everybody wants to have the thunder barrel in his back. When they see a thunder they rush to them like horny rabbits. 

Really, remove the self damage. You nerfed thunder, you kept self damage, and you made almost all good paints with thunder protection.Look at the battles, all you see is smoki, rail and isida. 

[kayitsiz 621]

I ts like gay fest. Everybody wants to have the thunder barrel in his back. When they see a thunder they rush to them like horny rabbits. 

Really, remove the self damage. You nerfed thunder, you kept self damage, and you made almost all good paints with thunder protection.Look at the battles, all you see is smoki, rail and isida. 

Same problem for railgun and shaft  :angry:

[RustyNail 1,538]

IMO Self damage is part of the special characteristics of the turrets.

Every turret has a unique characteristic, splash damage and self destruct is Thunder's and is wonderful.

What is not wonderfull is the Self Destruct Penalty of loosing a kill when self destruct.

SDP should be removed, it was not a good idea anyway.

 

But self destruct itself, no, I want it active.

 

(btw I love playing with thunder and I use self destruct both as a thunder myself and against other thunders)

[Felenew 24]

well, I agree, thunder's self-damage is annoying, but removing it, that would make tuunder OP (overpowered) because thunder has splash-damage, it can kill the enemies when they are in group, plus thunder has fast reloading, and with double power thunder is already powerful. So that is why self-damage shouldn't be removed, but it should be decreased, or somehing similar, and thunder would be OK then.

[kayitsiz 621]

IMO Self damage is part of the special characteristics of the turrets.

Every turret has a unique characteristic, splash damage and self destruct is Thunder's and is wonderful.

What is not wonderfull is the Self Destruct Penalty of loosing a kill when self destruct.

SDP should be removed, it was not a good idea anyway.

 

But self destruct itself, no, I want it active.

 

(btw I love playing with thunder and I use self destruct both as a thunder myself and against other thunders)

Thunder is very good weapon because he have self damage. İt is about balance. SDP should be removed yes, but damage and range shouls be decreased with this.

[M1Abram73 0]

Thunder has tooooo much self damage.  Please at least remove or reduce.  Don't reduce the Thunders fire power though.

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

Thunder has tooooo much self damage.  Please at least remove or reduce.  Don't reduce the Thunders fire power though.

Use thunder paint. :)

[deadmanrising 715]

No it is overpowered and on one on one it roughly does more damage which is useful to close combat turrets so i disagree

[lukey0 27,543]

Don't like the self-damage don't use it. Really if Thunder lost it's self-damage it would have to lose its multiple hit damage, it's the only way it would remain fair. Every gun has its own weakness, Thunder=self-damage, Railgun=long reload etc.

[M1Abram73 0]

Thunder self-damage is not fair.  Thunder vs. any other tank at same rank, one on one, face to face, Thunder loses.  Everyone can mirco upgrade to increase reload time, so this is not a disadvantage of Railgun.  Upgrade when you earn crystals.  Thunder upgrades power and splash damage, and we just get self-destroyed quicker.  I don't think any other tank has as high of a weakness as Thunder.  Give us a break. 

 

Also, is it true that if I increase Thunder protection on my paint, that will protect me from MYSELF?  This makes no sense.  It's like having a blow torch and I burn myself up first.

 

Come on Tankionline, give Thunders a break.  Thank you.

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

Also, is it true that if I increase Thunder protection on my paint, that will protect me from MYSELF?  This makes no sense.  It's like having a blow torch and I burn myself up first.

Yes, it works. I tried it on this server, I tried it on test server. M3 thunder full MU. First without paint, fully MU'd mammoth. Then with emerald, fully MU'd mammoth M3. Huge difference.

[M1Abram73 0]

I would accept remove Thunder's splash damage in order to remove self damage.  I think that's a fair trade.

[ExtremeKiller26 443]

I would accept remove Thunder's splash damage in order to remove self damage.  I think that's a fair trade.

They shouldn't remove self damage, but they should remove the penalty for that. It should give half of whatever points you get for kills in TDM, CTF or CP. More damage, more points. But it shouldn't suffer just because you are trying to make the enemy team lose and your team win. Like said above, don't remove Self damage, but Self damage penalty.

[Holyman_Tanki 40]

Yes, it works. I tried it on this server, I tried it on test server. M3 thunder full MU. First without paint, fully MU'd mammoth. Then with emerald, fully MU'd mammoth M3. Huge difference.

 

+1

 

I use Thunder exclusively and think it is perfectly balanced.

 

If Self-Damage were removed, it would be wholly over-powered. I use Thunder-paint to limit damage to myself, and think that's a small price to pay.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

yeah, its like asking GOD disable a grenades effect on you so it wont kill you if you pull the

trigger and wait for it to blow :mellow:

 

what a joke!

[Eragon 13,876]

With out the self damage thunder will be over powered. The gun needs to have a weakness to keep the balance. So not happening. 

[kayitsiz 621]

They shouldn't remove self damage, but they should remove the penalty for that. It should give half of whatever points you get for kills in TDM, CTF or CP. More damage, more points. But it shouldn't suffer just because you are trying to make the enemy team lose and your team win. Like said above, don't remove Self damage, but Self damage penalty.

With this, thunder will be king of short ranges. Because with this, thunder can self kill before opponent kill it.

[RustyNail 1,538]

With this, thunder will be king of short ranges. Because with this, thunder can self kill before opponent kill it.

But there is a disadvantage too, that others can make Thunder selfdestruct even when thunder doesn't want to... so, that's a kind of ballance..

[TankDestroyer890 135]

This sucks it make thunder way to powerful

[deathrapter27519 30]

Ricochet has self damage.

Thunder have great damage, range because it has self-damage.

 

Self-damage remove=Damage, and range should be decreased.

 

By the way it is necessary.

Thunder isnt that op. Trust me. First of all, the damage decreases with range, which means its only very effective in medium range. At short range it does damage to yourself, which is frustrating. Also, thunder takes a longer time to reload than smoky, while smoky reloads faster, is effective at all ranges, and can score critical hits. Thunder also has a rebound which makes it harder to fight richochets and twin. Plus its ugly. :P