Join the experiment with crystal drops

[AhmedBreezy 21]

Omg plz dont remove this update...i played for 15 mins and managed to get 800 crystals

[COMANDER2012 19]

Only 800 before I was getting that in 5 mins

[leonmoore 6]

no no no no no its not good lower levels wont be abel to get crystals it is unfair on lower levels it shoudnt be added to the game all the people that like this are higher so that sais something doesent it

 

[leonmoore 6]

i was in a battel and a goldbox fell after 30 000 battel fund

[bobmarleyrockyreborn 7]

No diamond boxes falling is not very good (harder to save up-don't have to join a long game). The no delay on gold box is also bad and they still rarely drop. :(((

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

My feedback:

 

Pros:

• When the 20, 50, 100, etc. crystal boxes were introduced, everybody was camping for them and disregarding their team. Now, those people are either contributing to their team's success or not playing, either of which is fine with me.
• I tend to win a lot of the matches I play in, so the extra fund is great for me. There's a lot more incentive to do well in matches, since you won't get as good of a payoff if you don't help your team out.

Cons:

• I like picking up crystal boxes once in a while, even though almost all of my crystals come from fund. It's a small, but nice boost to your income.
• If your team is not good, you won't benefit from the increased fund, since you'll get less of it. The crystal boxes were a way of still being able to get some compensation for staying in a losing battle and fighting until the end. Now, there's not much incentive for staying if a battle is obviously going south for your team.
• I do not like the new gold box system at all. Before, getting gold boxes required some element of strategy. Now, it's mostly whoever happens to be closest to it when it falls.

My suggestions:

• While I like this update in general, I think a lot of people like crystal boxes, and I can sympathize. I suggest putting crystal boxes back in the game, but their values should cap out at somewhere around 30. Anything more than that, and they become a distraction and a huge detriment to your team.
• Please make the gold boxes work as before, with the wait time. I'd also suggest taking away the marker, since that, well, makes finding the gold boxes a bit too easy.
• If you do decide to take away crystal boxes permanently (I can't imagine that will happen, but just in case), please make the fund distribution a bit more even so the losing team still gets some crystals.

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Anyway, that's the end of my feedback.

 

(1) Is this a way of getting players BUY more crystals for REAL money:  YES This update hasn't encouraged me to buy one bit. Not sure how it works out for other people, but if the average player is fairly successful, buying probably won't be necessary.

(3) Do we Tankionline think that players are stupid:  YES What makes you think that? I'm pretty sure the reason why this experiment is here is because many players complained about crystal campers. If they thought we were stupid, this experiment wouldn't be here.

(4) Is this the most boring game ever since this experimental update:  YES That's your opinion. Hasn't been any more boring for me. If anything, it's less boring.

(5) Should we Tankinonline apologies to the players:  YES That would assume that they did something very wrong in the first place. Again, you might think they did something wrong, but not everybody agrees with you.

(6) and give everybody 20.000 crystals for missing a hole week of crystal dropping:  YES I doubt one could earn 20,000 crystals just from crystal drops. After doing the math, you'd have to pick up about 285 crystal boxes (I'm going to assume they're 10 crystal boxes, since the crystal update was just for a few days before this experiment) each day of the week to get that amount. Have you gotten at least 285 crystal boxes each day for a week before? I don't think that's likely.

[greyat 2,972]

Taking away crystal drops has led to a week of increased, nearly double funds; quite nice, in my opinion. I usually earn most of my crystals from the battle fund, so the lack of crystal boxes does not particularly bother me. Games now have almost 100% participation, with no distractions.

This is not to say I don't mind some income from 10 crystal boxes.

 

On the other hand, the lack of warning for gold boxes is rather... annoying. As I have noted before, certain players will have lower chances at the gold box.

[yoni_IDF 0]

in general player are now sticking to the end of the match, which is good. but! for long games if you quit then you get nothing, who can play for 100 flags or 300 min!!!?  :(  

[DeathlySignal 6]

i don't like the new crystal boxes adjustment. when i fight in battles, catching those 100 crystal boxes seem like candy and prevents me from being bored out. also i barely notice the 'growing' battle fund. and i'd like the gold box to fall not right away to give you time to plan. please take this into thought:)

[So 1,636]

very bad  <_< 

Edited November 23, 2014 by So

[So 1,636]

من قال سبحان الله وبحمده في يوم مائة مرة حطت خطاياه وإن كانت مثل زبد البحر (F) .

(F)   سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَبِحَمْدِهِ ،•، سُبْحَانَ اللَّه الْعَظِيم•(F)  ^_^  ^_^  ^_^ 

[Cdog2897 0]

i really hate the new "experiment". it is HORRIBLE. This used to be the best update EVER, and now i dont even play because of this. PLEASE CHANGE!!   :(  :(

[r_heavybear0 0]

The crystals boxes is good because the battle fund grows faster. however the old update was better because even if your team loses or you leave before the battle ends, at least you get a bit of crystals.

The gold box update is good too because it doesn't distract the players from the game, however the gold box should drop bettween 10-20 seconds after the notification. :)  :rolleyes:  :D  :ph34r: 

[Electrisida 62]

Another question - where does the gold box drop now because it should drop in the middle, right? :huh:

[AceAgent 5]

Maybe it should be an option when setting up the battle, but crystal boxes should never be taken completely out of the game. Although I did catch 3 golds :D

[xaris52 75]

once upon a time players like urself had good talent but over time the crystals zapped it away

come on the guys is right, we need to have choises... everyone can be happy...

[Co437 54]

Congratulations, Tanki developers.   You have finally given cheaters the best gift ever.

 

EVERY game I play now goes like this ... if my team is ahead, raiders swarm in on the other side and plant mults on my side, and the raiders win, getting most of the crystals.

 

This used to happen once in a while, but now it is EVERY SINGLE GAME.

 

That's because the new crystal system rewards this behavior.

 

This has happened over and over again to me today, and I've been playing for hours.

 

If you don't put crystal drops back in the game ...   I quit.

 

Only an ***** would keep playing this crap, where the only way to win is to cheat.

 

 

[Miche_MKZ 0]

I really miss trying to get the crystals every time they land. My amount of crystals has gone up slower because of this experiment that you have done. I would like to save up faster and get the stuff from my garage updated and bought but it takes to long to save up with that experiment of yours and I would like it if you leave it as it had been thank you for your consideration.

 

Sincerely,

Miche_MKZ

[Miche_MKZ 0]

Congratulations, Tanki developers.   You have finally given cheaters the best gift ever.

 

EVERY game I play now goes like this ... if my team is ahead, raiders swarm in on the other side and plant mults on my side, and the raiders win, getting most of the crystals.

 

This used to happen once in a while, but now it is EVERY SINGLE GAME.

 

That's because the new crystal system rewards this behavior.

 

This has happened over and over again to me today, and I've been playing for hours.

 

If you don't put crystal drops back in the game ...   I quit.

 

Only an ***** would keep playing this crap, where the only way to win is to cheat.

I agree with that guy! I played 15 games today and most of the crystals went to the people who had the highest score in the game and it's just not fair. Who ever thought of this stupid experiment YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE. 

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

To everybody thinking about quitting, keep in mind that this system will be gone by next week. After that, everything will be back to what it was pre-experiment. Crystal boxes will be back.

 

most of the crystals went to the people who had the highest score in the game and it's just not fair. Who ever thought of this stupid experiment YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE. 

So you're saying the people who contribute to their team the most (i.e. highest score) should get the same amount of crystals as the people who don't contribute to their team at all? There would be no incentive to play hard at all, if that's what you're saying.

 

Also, I wouldn't insult the developers for trying out something new. Would you prefer it if they implemented this system in an update without letting you try it out and give feedback first?

[wandreycris100 3]

hi my name and Wandrey I wanted to know what day will back the boxes crystales

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Never.

[XDieNowX 0]

I am too often the recipient of zero battle funds. Why do I want to play now? I could atleast get crystals while I played. Now, I can only hope for the gold box or an actual group of equal players. 

[pig12301 0]

 

Collecting crystal boxes has been a part of Tanki Online from its earliest stages. However, it didn’t affect gameplay that much – boxes contained a modest number of crystals and collecting them wasn’t worth the time and effort. Plus, they would disappear over time. When developing the new drop box logics, we modeled crystal drops after supply boxes, without assuming that it would escalate the situation. The open testing didn’t unravel this problem either, as each account there had more than enough crystals so there was no reason to collect crystal drops. On release day, we thought that the complaints of tankers were caused due to doubled battle funds, which result in a larger number of crystals in drops.

 

However, we’ve recently changed our attitude towards feedback. We’ve started assessing and analyzing constructive feedback in the forum, counting positive and negative replies, and monitoring battle chats. This has helped us identify where the real problem lies. And we thank you for that!

 

That is why, as of today we’ve removed crystal boxes from the game as an experiment. Crystals that would have dropped in boxes, will instead be added to the battle fund as many of you suggested. Gold boxes are dropped right after the notification, so as not to distract players from teamplay, and give everybody a shot at catching the gold. The experiment will be on until next week. We will then specify our next steps.

 

Enter the game, take part in battles and make sure you tell us your impressions below. Any solution can be improved, and your feedback will help us do that!

I personally don't like it because i hardly get crystals. But if you do bring it back keep it 10 crystals and up

[lucky263 0]

this sucks for the recruits and privates because the spend it all rightaway and they have to use just the crystals in battle funds and that's not enough we need the gold boxes back