Join the experiment with crystal drops

[sergey360 0]

 

Collecting crystal boxes has been a part of Tanki Online from its earliest stages. However, it didn’t affect gameplay that much – boxes contained a modest number of crystals and collecting them wasn’t worth the time and effort. Plus, they would disappear over time. When developing the new drop box logics, we modeled crystal drops after supply boxes, without assuming that it would escalate the situation. The open testing didn’t unravel this problem either, as each account there had more than enough crystals so there was no reason to collect crystal drops. On release day, we thought that the complaints of tankers were caused due to doubled battle funds, which result in a larger number of crystals in drops.

 

However, we’ve recently changed our attitude towards feedback. We’ve started assessing and analyzing constructive feedback in the forum, counting positive and negative replies, and monitoring battle chats. This has helped us identify where the real problem lies. And we thank you for that!

 

That is why, as of today we’ve removed crystal boxes from the game as an experiment. Crystals that would have dropped in boxes, will instead be added to the battle fund as many of you suggested. Gold boxes are dropped right after the notification, so as not to distract players from teamplay, and give everybody a shot at catching the gold. The experiment will be on until next week. We will then specify our next steps.

 

Enter the game, take part in battles and make sure you tell us your impressions below. Any solution can be improved, and your feedback will help us do that!

I really like it when I can get extra crystals when they would drop cuz if i just join a game and it just about to finish i atleast can pick up some crystals. And it would be like a little Tip for playing the game. Make everyone go for them.

[girlsruletheschool 7]

I hate this idea, only the winning team gets gems, its not fair for all the people on the losing team!!

[XTNO.1 15]

Love this! Game now has no distractions and mults! People who survive gets to fight for the gold instead of people who kills themselves, which is how a fair reward system suppose to be. Pure game play is what daddy likes.

 

Please keep this change! :)  Thanks Tanki!

Edited November 20, 2014 by XTNO.1

[r_lhill0 0]

i dont like it becuase i get lots of crystals in the battle not with funds

[teddy843 0]

The gold boxes suck and so does the crystal experiment. I never get any crystals in the funds. I liked the update were the amount of crystals in the boxes goes up to 100 and then cycles again from 1 to 100. :mellow:

[aqwzsxedc 699]

Dude just cause ur like almost gismo and got tons of cry nobody else does yeah your just dumb tbh all i am asking for is to bring back 10 crystals drops that is all and what dp tanki go ott  they mess withe evrything crystals wre fine oops the update has  gone so wrong do they listen nope they dont take our opinions until they actually see what a the disaster is and thy rremove  all cry so dumb we wernt monaning with 10crys

first of all i don't have ton of crystalls ok ? i already need cry (facepalm)

[BlondieDeville 0]

As an adult & a buyer in this game I think of all the most recent updates, Tanki taking away crystal boxes is by far the worst! WHO did you listen to? it must have been the higher ranks, or those that always come out #1 in the battle, which btw I usually am but my son is not!  He just turned 8 it because of him I got started on this game, we bond :wub: , it's fun! He rarely ever ranks on top at the end of the battle but he enjoys playing & part of that is because he can get crystals.

 

I enjoyed the new update where you staggered crystal box sums & that was a lot of fun, a 50 box? How awesome!!!! A 1 box? not so much, but this? NO BOXES AT ALL? :(  NO BUENO!  :angry:  This may adjust my thoughts about Tanki & I may move on to another MMO that my son & I can enjoy together & leave Tanki for the typical 14 year old non-buyer! :tank:

[LIlsims 2]

Yes it will. More often actually, as the fund now grows faster.

NO

! the fund is still weaker!

[teddy843 0]

I don't like it because I always got the crystal drops and never usually got any battle fund. Also you only get a good battle fund when you get a lot of kills or your team wins. Sorry to say, but I really hate the experiment! :(

[Kelliesheroes 6]

  :tank: So are you saying in order to get crystals to upgrade or buy ,is battle to the end how do you figure how many crystals a tanker gets, by kills, flags, experience, not good at all i played to the end of a game i killed maybe 5 tanks at the end it showed 0 ... and my crystal amount never changed so therefor i never gained any at all through the game and i couldn't buy any drugs to help me in battles,, and with that you have to be very experienced to gain alot of crystals not  good at all.. just like when you took the way we use drugs you put a timer on them i will tell the timer thing not good cause computers lag and glitch  an the timer stops often it really isn't fair ,,as for the paints my tank protection paint fully upgraded a fly can kill it i have to use drugs to be lucky enough to take 2 shots ,in every battle these experienced tankers know where the gold boxes are going to drop 9 out of 10 times you need to have them drop where no one would expect it like behind a building or a gully behind bushes the distraction is knowing it is being dropped so everyone has an idea where it is right in the middle never on the out skirts.... but if you change it to somewhere else than it becomes a challenge and post "THE GOLD BOX HAS BEEN DROPPED " where you normally display it... This way the less fortunate have a fair chance also ..tHE DISTRACTION COMES WHEN IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE .. it is always the more powerful and most drugged tank that gets it ..if you think this post is to long get over it and go to school so you can learn how to read more

[alexfrancisco 0]

this does not work any more :(

[Klankill804 753]

Heh, noobs hate this update because they can't mult anymore  :lol:

 

Good for you noobs. Learn what pain the old players went through after you begged for the developers to remove drugging  :rolleyes:

[Amagi 1,728]

lol, seems like only low ranked mults hate this update, good for you. :p

[dynamite_9000 2]

I now see 3 situations ...the ones who bought the crystals ...the ones who earned the crystals ..and the ones who are now earning the crystals...tanki online with this changes is looking to make us with fewer money equal to those who buy crystals...and that is a mistake..we never should be equal to those who buy crystals...because we are better...more experience ..more hours of play ..and you ..the ones you bought your pretty little hulls are nothing in the field....now tanki of course can not give us reason .they need your money ..but you don't have the spirit ..and I beg of tanki admin to remember the spirit of a tankist,,,if you can face it do it ...if no ..find another thing to do ..we spend hours in this game .without a cent in our pockets and still beat you...I think that you privileged people that buy crystals should play all together and every day have a contest between us the ordinary gladiators and you...it bothers someone that a pour soul got 100 crystals? the answer is no ...experience still grows...and after a match 2-3 he gets an M1....you already had it...now that he can be your equal you are afraid of him..let him play ..be smarter then him...unless you bought your power to the rank your in ...if that's so ..you will get killed by every noob ...and shooo the freeze up...you are nothing if you cannot play in every swamp tanki online proposes...with freeze and fire your beloved dynamite_9000

[SicTransitGloria 76]

That is why, as of today we’ve removed crystal boxes from the game as an experiment. Crystals that would have dropped in boxes, will instead be added to the battle fund as many of you suggested."

I have no idea who suggested this, but I never saw it anywhere. This idea is as bad as the first one. Crystals are a big part of Tanki, including the box ones. Gold boxes, as well, did not need changing. The spontaneity of it actually boosted gameplay, not hurt it. I'm not sure what philosophy Tanki is even operating under anymore. Are they trying to make Tanki more tactical? Are they trying to encourage drugs? Are they trying to reinvent the gameplay? I'm not sure.

[reedriko 1]

Hello Tanki

 

Well done on creating a good game but i think the reward system needs adjusted.

 

Removing crystal drops from the game won't change what is the fundamental flaw in the way tanki games are structured. Very often you will get very uneven teams, unlike other games that redress this by rebalancing the teams during the game. Tanki just lets these games continue making them very dull, winning games 20 to 0  are a sign of a poor game and I see a lot of those.

 

To fix this tanki could, rebalance the teams automatically although many might not like this being done to them mid game, An alternative would be to allow players to switch sides to make the one sided games more interesting, At the moment they would lose any reward, so no one does that.

 

Another reason players don't switch is that the reward system is highly biased to the winning team not the individual. You can be the higheest scorer in the whole game but if you are in a team of weaker players and lose the game. You will recive a fraction of the reward crystals,

 

This reinforces the one sided nature of the tanki games. As no one wants to be in the weaker team and a lot of people quit before the game ends to find another game rather than wasting thier time finishing a game they have no hope of winning, and will recive hardly any reward for.

 

experimenting with crystal amount or drops will not solve these fundamental flaws in the game.

 

 

[TheChang 28]

I'm very very VERY happy with this update. At first, I thought the gold box falling immediately after the warning would be bad, but the golds will fall more often now, and it's almost how it used to be. It also doesn't "pause" the game for around 90 seconds. I thought of maybe just having crystal boxes have 5 crystals in them because I value a quick raising battle fund more than crystal boxes, because some people aren't able to play for the full battle length. However there are shorter battles that people are able to play to still get the battle fund at the end. I think either keep it how it is now, or if crystal boxes are coming back, don't do more than 5 crystals in them. I lean more toward keeping crystal boxes out of the game, as they attract crystal grabbers. Thank you so SO much Tankionline.

[Freeze788 0]

Ok pearsonally im noob so i NEEEEEEED those boxes pls tanki add them back because i would pretty much QUIT Tanki if this update was permanante

 

 

reason 1

 

 

you have to wait for the battle to FINISH!! 

 

 

 

 

reason 2 

 

 

you have to get alot of kills to gwt ANY fund 

 

 

reason 3 

 

 

when we start a match and leave before the end we get nothing  :(

 

but the crystal box drops would make up for your fund for example if you get 2 of the new 100 boxes and leave it would make up for you fund

 

 

 

HOPE YOU REPLY!!

 

 

 

[TankCraze_EN 14]

For this update to actually be complete ... how about reducing the max time in a battle to be ~2 hours? No offense, but everybody posts 300 minute games for no reason other than they want gold. Who can play those games? Almost NOBODY ... it would be great if the time were reduced (and maybe even force a time limit (ex: not just flags)), or just make your own servers that go on all day ... idk.

Edited November 20, 2014 by TankCraze_EN

[ClutchCityColtsFAn 362]

this is dumb. Crystal boxes wernt a "distraction" untill you started making them more valuable. Just go back to the way it was before predictable drop zones

[TheChang 28]

Hello Tanki

 

Well done on creating a good game but i think the reward system needs adjusted.

 

Removing crystal drops from the game won't change what is the fundamental flaw in the way tanki games are structured. Very often you will get very uneven teams, unlike other games that redress this by rebalancing the teams during the game. Tanki just lets these games continue making them very dull, winning games 20 to 0  are a sign of a poor game and I see a lot of those.

 

To fix this tanki could, rebalance the teams automatically although many might not like this being done to them mid game, An alternative would be to allow players to switch sides to make the one sided games more interesting, At the moment they would lose any reward, so no one does that.

 

Another reason players don't switch is that the reward system is highly biased to the winning team not the individual. You can be the higheest scorer in the whole game but if you are in a team of weaker players and lose the game. You will recive a fraction of the reward crystals,

 

This reinforces the one sided nature of the tanki games. As no one wants to be in the weaker team and a lot of people quit before the game ends to find another game rather than wasting thier time finishing a game they have no hope of winning, and will recive hardly any reward for.

 

experimenting with crystal amount or drops will not solve these fundamental flaws in the game.

People DO switch teams because they value a good game more than a few crystals unless the battle fund is past 5,000. I see it all the time, and it's very funny when the people who switch teams are the ones who end up winning, even if the team they just left only needed one more flag to win. I like this style more because, you have the option to leave or join a battle of your choice. You don't need an auto balance, and it would be quite hard and annoying for Tanki to make one.

[Klankill804 753]

No matter what you do noobs, Tanki will not listen to what you're saying.

 

They barely listened to us when we were asking to return drugging but they didn't listen. So there's very little chance of them listening to you : )

[TheChang 28]

Ok pearsonally im noob so i NEEEEEEED those boxes pls tanki add them back because i would pretty much QUIT Tanki if this update was permanante

 

 

reason 1

 

 

you have to wait for the battle to FINISH!! 

 

 

 

 

reason 2 

 

 

you have to get alot of kills to gwt ANY fund 

 

 

reason 3 

 

 

when we start a match and leave before the end we get nothing  :(

 

but the crystal box drops would make up for your fund for example if you get 2 of the new 100 boxes and leave it would make up for you fund

 

 

 

HOPE YOU REPLY!!

This is what brings back crystal grabbers. This update encourages tankers to improve their skills instead of just their equipment.

[r_n3870400 0]

I really hope this experiment go`s back to the crystal drops :(  this is kinda what whould happen if i could not get my crystal boxes  :tank:

[majorpakpak 39]

no crystals boxes,. fine. then drop the price in the garage by 80 percent bacause getting 6 and 7 crystals per battle now sometimes none you will pass generallisimo then buy m1