Spectator Mode - PRObattle ON/OFF Option

[SicTransitGloria 76]

The reason you have to fill in an application form is to see whether you're an active you tuber and you post regular videos. Administration don't want to hand it out carelessly, if everyone has it, it's not special. People would barely be playing and instead have fun flying around in a camera. You want to record your rank up, then here's your topic. It probably would make the game lag more and there are plenty of moans and groans about that issue. If you got spectator mode, what would you use it for? You can still win contests perfectly by not having spectator and if you think you need one, then the links above.

 

 

Rent-A-Spec. - the reason why that topic was created, and it's massively successful.

Did you read either mine or deadtoyou's posts? There are solutions for the problem of lag, mainly, limiting the number of specs allowed to be in a server and/or battle.

 

I seriously doubt that any significant number of tankers would drop all of their gaming time to simply putz around on a camera. If you don't have purpose, it usually gets boring pretty quickly. The idea that all of the players would give up tanking to spectate is absurd.

 

Who cares if it's special or not? Personally, I would like to see it become un-special. If high quality spectator based videos become the norm, I'm happy with that.

[duck100101 965]

I think a more commercial idea is being proposed here. I'm willing to bet the creator of this idea is aware of the topic, but would you rather be spectated on, or spectate? (<--Rhetorical question.)

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[duck100101 965]

I think a more commercial idea is being proposed here. I'm willing to bet the creator of this idea is aware of the topic, but would you rather be spectated on, or spectate? (<--Rhetorical question.)

True thanks for input

[duck100101 965]

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[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

ATTENTION: Before going any further, read duck's topic: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=239025

 

Hey tankers, I recently stumbled across duck's 'Spectator Mode For All Tankers' topic, and totally agree with it (I myself feel I would have made such a topic sooner or later). But I think it was missing a few features of what should be added. So I asked for promotion from duck if I can make this topic and since he said yes, here we go!

 

The Lag:

In duck's topic people complained that a release of such an update would mean tremendous lag. So to fix the problem I came up with a thought. From the additional blue, red (CTF, TDM, CP) and green (DM) teams there will be an added yellow team (yellow was decided because when a spectator speaks it is shown like '[spectator]: Hi'). The yellow team will have a limit of 3 people per battle. The only exception to this limit would be if a Chat Mod or Dev would want to join a battle with spectator, they can.

 

Wait, Pay Up:

I thought, just to make it fair, something so "valuable" should come cheap. So I think there should be 1 of 2 things. (1) A new garage item should be added to the garage with the name of 'Camera' or 'Spectator Mode'. The function is obvious, but the item and have the ability to spectate battles for a month. The price would probably be around 2,000 crystals (2) Or, when buying a 'PRO Battle Pass' it comes with the ability to spectate battles. But I think the 1st option is better.

*I was thinking there can also be another garage item called 'Mini Camera' or 'Mini Spectator Mode' which would cost less but last probably a week.

 

The Ability To Know:

A know most of you don't know this, but it will be a very known problem when and if this becomes and update. When a spectator is spectating a battle, no-one can tell he is there except him. So I say it should show in the friend list. (Pic below)

 

Mute, But Noticed:

Like the spectators from Rent-A-Spec, spectators (Other than Chat Mods and Devs) will be muted. Obvious reason, no to disrupt a battle. But for picture/video purposes, there will be a way for you to be noticed in not such a distracting way. When a spectator joins a battle, it will say on the top-right hand corner of the screen that you've joined (Just like any other ordinary tankers who joins a battle). But that's not all, when a spectator is spectating you personally, there will be a little red light next to you supply table (for those of you who don't know what I meant by 'spectating personally' it means when a spectator can click your nickname and then click 'Spectate', now he can sit back and relax and let you do all the shooting and driving. Pic below).

What I mean by 'spectate personally'

From M4D_GENiUS's video

Pic of what it would look like when being personally spectated

Not good pic

 

The Problem and it's Solution:

Problem: People have noticed a problem that might (and probably) happen spectator mode was given to every tanker. The problem was that tankers would use it to tell (not over chat but Skype or any other communication system) a team information on the opposite, giving a team a big advantage.

Solution: My two solution to this is as follows:

(1) Nicknames and health bars (Including active drugs) will only be visible in Parkour battles. Which means in a regular battle all names, health-bars, and active supplies will be hidden, along with the chart (on the top-right corner) which states who has been destroyed or captures a flag or point. Also note the notifications (Excluding 'Gold box will be dropped soon') will change. For example, if the blue team captures a flag, the notification will read 'Blue team has captures a flag' instead of 'Yisroel.Rabin has captures the flag'. Also after a gold box has been caught, for a spectator a notification will pop up which reads 'The gold box has been caught' rather than 'Yisroel.Rabin has taken the gold box'.

(2) If you do not like this idea, I have another (even better, in my mind) idea for you. Names and health-bars will be visible in all battles. But to a spectator, it would seem as if no one is loosing HP! Basically a spectator joins a battle and sees everyone with full HP. In this case drugs, names, chart on top-right corner, and notifications will be visible.

 

Not for the special ones:

This is probably obvious but I feel the need to say it anyways. None of the "changes" to spectator mode would apply to a Mods or Devs spectator mode.

 

Well that's all I thought should be added, if you think anything else should be added, post it ion duck's topic or this one. See you!

 

Note note I may edit, and add or remove some things depending on your posts.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

I really like the "spectate" option on Friend's List.

[metalcrusher 514]

Interesting.

Thing is I think someone with spec mode, would probably try to spy on a team and tell the other team giving them an advantage.

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I really like the "spectate" option on Friend's List.

Me too :)

 

Interesting.

Thing is I think someone with spec mode, would probably try to spy on a team and tell the other team giving them an advantage.

This is why all spectator (not including spectator who are Chat Mods or Devs) will be muted... I thought I mentioned that. And if you mean like over Skype, well I highly doubt it will be a common problem.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Me too :)

 

This is why all spectator (not including spectator who are Chat Mods or Devs) will be muted... I thought I mentioned that. And if you mean like over Skype, well I highly doubt it will be a common problem.

Sorry to mention this, but nobody can silence a spectator, since he can very well use third party software to communicate with others (skype, teamspeak etc).

So, this idea is not going to happen except maybe in parkour mode. Take that into consideration.

[SicTransitGloria 76]

Sorry to mention this, but nobody can silence a spectator, since he can very well use third party software to communicate with others (skype, teamspeak etc).

So, this idea is not going to happen except maybe in parkour mode. Take that into consideration.

How many tankers are that dedicated that they would use a spectator as a spy to try to win a match?

[Promissory 569]

Many, I know I would.

[metalcrusher 514]

Me too :)

 

This is why all spectator (not including spectator who are Chat Mods or Devs) will be muted... I thought I mentioned that. And if you mean like over Skype, well I highly doubt it will be a common problem.

Yea I got the muted part, I meant by skype, and not just skype, chatzy and other software and sites

Edit:

What @RustyNail said, I think it should be available only in parkour mode.

Make things much easier

[duck100101 965]

Interesting.

Thing is I think someone with spec mode, would probably try to spy on a team and tell the other team giving them an advantage.

True in a way, how about no chat bar?

[Tommy60 406]

True in a way, how about no chat bar?

The amount of programming entailed in differentiating between an already established spectator mode for game authorities, and one for all users, completely unhackable, without a chat function at all, would be enormous.

[duck100101 965]

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[duck100101 965]

The amount of programming entailed in differentiating between an already established spectator mode for game authorities, and one for all users, completely unhackable, without a chat function at all, would be enormous.

I mean how about no chat bar for the spectators..

 

and if you could ex-plane your-self better

[duck100101 965]

Yea I got the muted part, I meant by skype, and not just skype, chatzy and other software and sites

Edit:

What @RustyNail said, I think it should be available only in parkour mode.

Make things much easier

Why just packour mode

 

Tanki is not really a game of hiding "World or tanks' is..

 

So I don't think there will be much multing with spectator mode for every one

[duck100101 965]

Very nice topic and very true

[dilsharox 2,395]

i've seen this suggestion b4 bt i like it 

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

To all those who think of the people who will cheat with spectator mode:

I will think about it a bit, I'll see if I can find a solution or just have to make it Parkour only.

[RustyNail 1,538]

How many tankers are that dedicated that they would use a spectator as a spy to try to win a match?

Enough to ruin too many battles...

 

Sorry guys, I do love the idea of having a spectator view but mults are already bitting hard and giving them another means of raiding battles will just turn Tanki Online into Mafia Online...

So only in spectator parkour mode, and that's provided it's not a big deal in coding's point of view.

[MarineMan2 1,164]

Merged Duck's topic with Invincitron's.

[MarineMan2 1,164]

Merged Yisroel's topic with Invincitron's.

[duck100101 965]

Merged Duck's topic with Invincitron's.

Ok, I guess I can see why, but they are different in many ways.

 

I put all the quotes, in the main topic, I wish he could do the same

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

The Problem and it's Solution:

Problem: People have noticed a problem that might (and probably) happen spectator mode was given to every tanker. The problem was that tankers would use it to tell (not over chat but Skype or any other communication system) a team information on the opposite, giving a team a big advantage.

Solution: My two solution to this is as follows:

(1) Nicknames and health bars (Including active drugs) will only be visible in Parkour battles. Which means in a regular battle all names, health-bars, and active supplies will be hidden, along with the chart (on the top-right corner) which states who has been destroyed or captures a flag or point. Also note the notifications (Excluding 'Gold box will be dropped soon') will change. For example, if the blue team captures a flag, the notification will read 'Blue team has captures a flag' instead of 'Yisroel.Rabin has captures the flag'. Also after a gold box has been caught, for a spectator a notification will pop up which reads 'The gold box has been caught' rather than 'Yisroel.Rabin has taken the gold box'.

(2) If you do not like this idea, I have another (even better, in my mind) idea for you. Names and health-bars will be visible in all battles. But to a spectator, it would seem as if no one is loosing HP! Basically a spectator joins a battle and sees everyone with full HP. In this case drugs, names, chart on top-right corner, and notifications will be visible.

 

Hope you agree with this idea(s). Thank you :)