Have you noticed any covert changes ?

[Pistolcc 38]

Well my beloved smoky has been tweaked. Tampered with is a better description. I can't flip people like I could and my kills have been greatly reduced. logically that would mean impact force and damage have been softened but there are loads of  other changes that could achieve the same effect.  

i.e. I have been nerfed as of Fri 21 Nov, possibly yesterday but I didn't play.

This can't be the only covert turret or hull change. Has anyone else noticed grey parameter changes? 

[hhgb 2,655]

Yes, it is weaker, I was able to kill M2 hornet unprotected in a few shots fresh from the spawn, but now it takes 1 more.

[LiquidGold 1,370]

so they made the updates suit rails and shafts then made the only long range gun that could fight almost evenly weaker after they had it on sale.. 

so two nerfs now for smokey over all in the last year and 2 buff for rail >.< what makes you think the devs play rail most .... even the new drug kits suit rails and shafts they even called them sniper kits

 

 

I just did an in game test with m3 smokey and viking vs m3 thunder and viking  all mus off no corrective paints on at range full length of 2042 map 

 

thunder kill in 8 shots smokey killed in 16 shots with 2 crits included

 

at close range both guns killed in 5 shots

 

 

smokey used to be king  in long range battle its rubbish now compared to what it used to be

smokey has gone back to a tier one gun its that bad

Edited November 22, 2014 by LiquidGold

[Jayjey419 41]

They pretty much do whatever they like, and want us to adjust to it, If they continue with this crystals box update, doubt they'll have much users playing, Now in battles people just use prodigi, got to be smart, user firebird :) 

[COMANDER2012 19]

That's nothing you should see what they secretly did to Thunder, they practically destroyed it (takes 5 shots to kill a wasp now :( let alone anything else)

[Eragon 13,876]

Yep, Now I need 5 shots instead of 4 to kill hornet m3 with m2 smoky  -_-

[COMANDER2012 19]

Oh and did they have to make Shaft super OP

[Pistolcc 38]

I don't know if I will spend any crystals before the unity changeover bc

a. there will be huge changes so making m4 might be a waste

b. we can expect incentive discounts when the unity game is launched

c. there are new turrets coming

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

I've checked the stats of both Thunder and Smoky, and I haven't noticed any difference at all. I don't think any changes have been made, so perhaps it's just you.

[xaris52 75]

I don't know if I will spend any crystals before the unity changeover bc

a. there will be huge changes so making m4 might be a waste

b. we can expect incentive discounts when the unity game is launched

c. there are new turrets coming

the mysterious developers...

[COMANDER2012 19]

I've checked the stats of both Thunder and Smoky, and I haven't noticed any difference at all. I don't think any changes have been made, so perhaps it's just you.

I don't know then perhaps the stats in garage are incorrect but me and quite a few other Thunder and Smoky users defiantly noticed a difference and besides doesn't it seem strange to you there was a Thunder and Smoky sale on not so long ago? And what about the self destruct penalty that has affected Thunder greatly (supposedly to stop people self destructing to deniy kills however I still see people doing it and I can think of better ways to sort that problem out)

Edited November 25, 2014 by COMANDER2012

[Pistolcc 38]

I've checked the stats of both Thunder and Smoky, and I haven't noticed any difference at all. I don't think any changes have been made, so perhaps it's just you.

You are right about the stats. They remain the same, but there are dozens of other parameters that can be changed. Or individual weapons could be tweaked by a factor of say 0.95

 

This would be enough to have a big impact for people who play a lot. 

 

last week I could kill an m4 prodigi hornet in 4 shots 9 times of 10 now it is 5 shots 9 times of 10. 

 

What Im saying is well spotted on the numbers they show us, but the observations prove that other variables have been changed.

 

They constantly tweak in order to make a balanced environment which doesn't favour any one single turret. This is a good thing but it can be v frustrating when you spend time and money on something.  

[LiquidGold 1,370]

if something becomes bad it get shelved for a while and you try to get another gun /hull i've seen many guns come and go out of favour for a while which means your trying to get a full garage .. so spend more time here trying to get the next one

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Nobody didn't change anything <_>

[duck100101 965]

Nobody didn't change anything <_<

hazel sas

[Promissory 569]

Nobody didn't change anything <_<

emm hazel.. say nobody changed anything, not nobodu didn't change anything xD

[oLa-KlmH 26]

Nobody didn't change anything <_<

i see drugs in pro battle how changed? :D

[COMANDER2012 19]

Nobody didn't change anything <_<

That sentence means someone did change something :P (double negative. Nobody and didn't)

Edited November 27, 2014 by COMANDER2012

[darkuda4 40]

the smoky is definately weaker - I hardly notice the difference between the m2 and m3 plus my m3 is micro-upgraded weak sauce.....

[SicTransitGloria 76]

They made the TDM destroy limit only an option for PRO battles...

 

REALLY, Tanki?

[7919zola 252]

Nobody didn't change anything <_<

Saucy, very saucy.  :D

[Hassaan_Riaz 39]

Hey believe it or not Rail's impact force has been increased now its awesome IDK what's happening :huh: but is awesome :D

[Pistolcc 38]

Hey believe it or not Rail's impact force has been increased now its awesome IDK what's happening :huh: but is awesome :D

Yes I saw (felt) that. 

 

Also, in a fight when you kill a firebird, the fire now drains you down to all of 5 hp but leaves you alive 

 

PS smoky is back to 4 shot kills for unprotected hornets most of the time. Impact force is still down though. :v

Edited December 1, 2014 by Pistolcc

[LiquidGold 1,370]

i just tested it afterburn still works but to get the full effect you have to heat the tank up to max temperature so afterburn does still kill you, even after you die the afterburn still kills the one you shot 

Edited December 2, 2014 by LiquidGold

[Pistolcc 38]

i just tested it afterburn still works but to get the full effect you have to heat the tank up to max temperature so afterburn does still kill you, even after you die the afterburn still kills the one you shot 

Yes, the changes are so quick it is hard to keep up with them, on 01 Dec the firebird often awkwardly left you alive with <5 hp after the attacker died. 

This had all changed by the  next day, but the residual burning seems gentler 

 

What I would say about smoky is that while they did eventually leave it alone wrt damage and impact, They have made the critical hit one in every 4/5 shots and you can never get two crits back to back.