Improving the game!

[lookthe2015 2]

i think that is best but the triple battle fund will be better because if u dont give crystal boxes and if is double battle fund it mustt be instead of triple battle fund because when there were crystals we had more crystals drops and more battle fund so can u do it triple now adays.Remember tankers love triple battle fund

:D

[beertruck 0]

I've come to the conclusion that this new style of plays SUCKS. Please bring back original tanki or give us the option of choosing different styles of play without making us pay crystal penalties to join custom battles. Maps like stadium are now pointless, no one will run around open areas without crystal drops anymore.  Please, please, please let us chose battle styles.  Maybe have some servers dedicated to original tanki and some to the new crappy style?? It is frustrating that it takes twice as long to save crystals for new eqiptment now.  :( :angry: :wacko:

[lookthe2015 2]

Can we have normal goldbox drop time, like 30-50 sec after notification.

Its hard to get gold, know why. When you see notification, tankers who just spam kills tankes who arent.

And in that time gold drops. Or you self-destruct and spam on other side of map which is anoying. Thats it 

anyway Keep up the GooD work. 

i think is a bad idea because with the 20 seconds i caught many golds it is so perfect for my fellow tankers

[lookthe2015 2]

I've come to the conclusion that this new style of plays SUCKS. Please bring back original tanki or give us the option of choosing different styles of play without making us pay crystal penalties to join custom battles. Maps like stadium are now pointless, no one will run around open areas without crystal drops anymore.  Please, please, please let us chose battle styles.  Maybe have some servers dedicated to original tanki and some to the new crappy style?? It is frustrating that it takes twice as long to save crystals for new eqiptment now.  :( :angry: :wacko:

beertruck i think is an excellent idea

 

:D  :D

[GorcsevIvan 55]

My comments:

1. New Gold Box system:
   I did not like the dropping without pre-notification. The 20 sec is enough to start searching, but still there is a luck factor needed. So, I think the more experienced stronger players have less chance than in the original system.
   Now I feel catching again with the same ratio as before the immediate-dropping was introduced.
    
2. Crystal drops:
   I liked the crystals (the 10 only, the 50 and 100 cry boxes were way to appealing to everybody). Not only because sometimes I could collect more from them than from the battle fund, but mainly because it was so funny shooting the collectors to kick up the score. The battles are now sometimes more intensive, sometimes emptied on the loosing side more quickly. 
    
3. Time limit and fund sharing:
   Very long battles were risky due to drugger teams raiding and kinda steeling the fund. Although it is not prevented now, the system demotivates that. I like that. I think the decision to allow longer 45 and 60 min. battles is also good. 
   Recently I entered a CTF PRO battle where I realized only after entering that the length is 999 min. without flag limit. This is stupid. I regret that I did not get back some hours later to see the status. More than 4-5 hours is too much for me. Even that is crazy.
   Recompense the effort of the loosing team with the 20% share even in case of zero result is good, and motivates to stay in battle. So, I support that even though we can get less on the winning side.

Edited December 1, 2014 by GorcsevIvan

[vanshajwore 324]

 

 

I think it's time for the Tanki team to be honest and explain the real rationale behind their releases.

 

As far as I am concerned these are desperate measures to extort more real cash from players and are not launched with the aim of improving gameplay.

 

Lately we have had a smart cooldown release co-ordinated with the daily showering of copious amounts of ‘gifts’/ supplies onto players in an attempt to get us addicted to being serial users of supplies.  This resulted in absolute carnage until stockpiles dwindled.  The actions of the Tanki team are akin to drug dealers cruising around schools offering free samples to children in order to get them hooked.

 

They then launch an 'independent' tutorial/strategy guide which from the outset advocates spawn drugging and self-healing.  A great way for our addicts to run out of supplies and be in desperate need for replenishments and running for the credit card. 

 

Then we get the predictable drop fiasco.  Day one results in a giant crystal hunt where players have degenerated into post-apocalyptic zombies fighting tooth and nail for boxes containing as little as 20 crystals.  All this was compounded by consolidating drop locations into fewer areas so that most players caught considerably less than before.

Then we get the emergency release where the entire crystal fund is added to the battle fund which means that anyone on the losing team ends up with hardly anything.  At least before they could have got some reward by collecting a few 10 crystal boxes.  Of course long games have suffered because to get any reward out of the game you have to be there at the end.  Surely this was known to the design/dev team prior to them releasing this emergency change.

Once again for players to get any reward out of team games has had an impact upon the games degenerating into drug fests with players expending many k's worth of supplies to receive a much lessor crystal value.

 

This is followed up with a rigged feedback form asking for views of multi value crystal boxes or increased fund.  Where was the option for application roll back to dropping of 10 crystal boxes into unmarked areas?  That option didn't exist did it?  Has Tanki's pride been dented so much that they cannot contemplate reinstating the drop of 10 crystal boxes?

 

Now the 'experiment' continues and we are faced with short battles.  This may be good for some maps, but it is useless for others.  Excellent CTF games of Lost Temple could be found on EN1 each day and the structure of the map coupled with large team sizes consisting of diverse equipment made flag capturing difficult.  The games had full quotas of players persevering through chronic problems with lags that frequently afflicted this map often making it unplayable.  Your dev time would be better spent eliminating lag issues.

 

As a result of this flag capturing difficulty the games generated reasonable prize funds.  Now this map/game combo is ruined as there is a distinct possibility that no flags will be captured in such short periods.

But you give us option of continuing with longer battles for the cost of a pro-battle pass.  Thanks for your generosity.

 

Also with games ending after such short periods all continuity is removed as players now have the natural opportunity to move onto new games making void your sound bites of shorter games being equally as profitable as long ones.  Players leave and the battles become empty and terminate prematurely.

 

You are slick at self-promoting the game at various events worldwide and offering tourneys with reasonable prize funds.  You are also slick at offering bits of eye candy such as new visuals and meaningless actions.

 

But what is the point?

 

Why not focus on improving gameplay by:

   removing lags;

   introducing new maps;

   improving the ability to find desirable battles by offering a search for a battle across all servers;

   having a support team that actually supports users, resolves issues and exercises common sense;

   providing battles that affords all players the opportunity to extract a reasonable crystal return from each and every battle - reinstate the drop of 10 crystal boxes into unmarked locations as before.

 

All of your actions display attempts to modify the game in such a way that we as players are not receiving the appropriate crystal amounts/rewards for the many hours spent playing the game.

 

I am sure that this has all been pre-planned by yourselves so that diminishing returns and out of contol use of supplies result in cash payments to your business so that our gaming styles are maintained.

 

I recognise that you are a business and need income to operate.  But your actions and history do not portray yourselves as being worthy recipients of our hard earned cash.

 

I ask you which is better value - 250k crystals in Tanki or a newly released Xbox One/PS4 game?

They both cost roughly the same and you can't even but M3 twins or firebird with 250k - whereas the other option buys you an entire game!!!!

 

 

Now is your time to win back our trust and by providing proof that you can engage with us for the betterment of the game and not just lining your pockets with cash.

 

I really hope you prove me wrong - but then again I am sure you will not.

 

 

100% agreed!!!!

and semyon should better read this line

"I recognise that you are a business and need income to operate.  But your actions and history do not portray yourselves as being worthy recipients of our hard earned cash."

[BruderShaft 1]

About the new features of the game - guys you have removed the possibility to make 2 conditions for victory.
So now if some 1 makes 30 mins CTF battle - and the other team leaves after 10 mins, what does he supposed to do? wait 20 mins to get his crystals?
Why not bring back the ability to make flag+time limit?

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

well,in my opinion,that last "20 second gold delay" update is excellent now..not immediate drop,not too long waiting..still,tankers with dictators have much more chances to catch them,in last tripple fund event,in CP games there were many people running aroud with them,not caring for the point,but,better for me and my friends :D got nice income from playing only CP,destroying weaker medium tanks such as dictators :D funds are still 30-50% lower for players that played PRO battles with crystal drops turned off..

[RustyNail 1,538]

I think it's time for the Tanki team to be honest and explain the real rationale behind their releases.

 

As far as I am concerned these are desperate measures to extort more real cash from players and are not launched with the aim of improving gameplay.

 

Lately we have had a smart cooldown release co-ordinated with the daily showering of copious amounts of ‘gifts’/ supplies onto players in an attempt to get us addicted to being serial users of supplies.  This resulted in absolute carnage until stockpiles dwindled.  The actions of the Tanki team are akin to drug dealers cruising around schools offering free samples to children in order to get them hooked.

 

They then launch an 'independent' tutorial/strategy guide which from the outset advocates spawn drugging and self-healing.  A great way for our addicts to run out of supplies and be in desperate need for replenishments and running for the credit card. 

 

Then we get the predictable drop fiasco.  Day one results in a giant crystal hunt where players have degenerated into post-apocalyptic zombies fighting tooth and nail for boxes containing as little as 20 crystals.  All this was compounded by consolidating drop locations into fewer areas so that most players caught considerably less than before.

Then we get the emergency release where the entire crystal fund is added to the battle fund which means that anyone on the losing team ends up with hardly anything.  At least before they could have got some reward by collecting a few 10 crystal boxes.  Of course long games have suffered because to get any reward out of the game you have to be there at the end.  Surely this was known to the design/dev team prior to them releasing this emergency change.

Once again for players to get any reward out of team games has had an impact upon the games degenerating into drug fests with players expending many k's worth of supplies to receive a much lessor crystal value.

 

This is followed up with a rigged feedback form asking for views of multi value crystal boxes or increased fund.  Where was the option for application roll back to dropping of 10 crystal boxes into unmarked areas?  That option didn't exist did it?  Has Tanki's pride been dented so much that they cannot contemplate reinstating the drop of 10 crystal boxes?

 

Now the 'experiment' continues and we are faced with short battles.  This may be good for some maps, but it is useless for others.  Excellent CTF games of Lost Temple could be found on EN1 each day and the structure of the map coupled with large team sizes consisting of diverse equipment made flag capturing difficult.  The games had full quotas of players persevering through chronic problems with lags that frequently afflicted this map often making it unplayable.  Your dev time would be better spent eliminating lag issues.

 

As a result of this flag capturing difficulty the games generated reasonable prize funds.  Now this map/game combo is ruined as there is a distinct possibility that no flags will be captured in such short periods.

But you give us option of continuing with longer battles for the cost of a pro-battle pass.  Thanks for your generosity.

 

Also with games ending after such short periods all continuity is removed as players now have the natural opportunity to move onto new games making void your sound bites of shorter games being equally as profitable as long ones.  Players leave and the battles become empty and terminate prematurely.

 

You are slick at self-promoting the game at various events worldwide and offering tourneys with reasonable prize funds.  You are also slick at offering bits of eye candy such as new visuals and meaningless actions.

 

But what is the point?

 

Why not focus on improving gameplay by:

   removing lags;

   introducing new maps;

   improving the ability to find desirable battles by offering a search for a battle across all servers;

   having a support team that actually supports users, resolves issues and exercises common sense;

   providing battles that affords all players the opportunity to extract a reasonable crystal return from each and every battle - reinstate the drop of 10 crystal boxes into unmarked locations as before.

 

All of your actions display attempts to modify the game in such a way that we as players are not receiving the appropriate crystal amounts/rewards for the many hours spent playing the game.

 

I am sure that this has all been pre-planned by yourselves so that diminishing returns and out of contol use of supplies result in cash payments to your business so that our gaming styles are maintained.

 

I recognise that you are a business and need income to operate.  But your actions and history do not portray yourselves as being worthy recipients of our hard earned cash.

 

I ask you which is better value - 250k crystals in Tanki or a newly released Xbox One/PS4 game?

They both cost roughly the same and you can't even but M3 twins or firebird with 250k - whereas the other option buys you an entire game!!!!

 

 

Now is your time to win back our trust and by providing proof that you can engage with us for the betterment of the game and not just lining your pockets with cash.

 

I really hope you prove me wrong - but then again I am sure you will not.

 

I am sorry that I can upvote this only once.. I would gladly give a week's upvotes to this one, because it's the most complete explanation for Alternativa's actions I have seen in the last months.

 

It's all about money, more money, ridiculously much money. More than one can use to buy serious goods.

[blasterbros 7]

tanki is growing day by day and getting more players...feels good , keep it up devs!! :)

[Matsoni42 14]

I am waiting new tanki...

[r_guja150 0]

ok , it's cool, but 20 sec. is too small time ! i think 30 or 45 or 60 sec. will be better !  

 

[MonkeyMagic 89]

when the smart cooldowns were released it was funny to see all the noob crystal collectors laughing at the druggers. saying it doesnt require skill to drug and now the game will be for skillful players only. always forgetting its the buyers that pay for your freeloading!

 

well then, these same players now crying that they cant sit around collecting crystals all day like the freeloaders they are. no skill required  doing that is there?  :lol: so now to gain free crystals you must play with skill :)

 

keep on crying about the loss of free drops. karma is a wonderful thing  :lol:

[delnina2 1,570]

Guys, I got a super idea !!! 

 

I think that the sign of the gold box should be like a "pillar" !!

[adem_2011 170]

DROP ZONES

 

Nobody will disable them from the settings. Because it would disadvantage to the player among others, when gold is dropping. That wouldn't be fair also. They are distracting but yet nobody will disable them due to this fact.

 

Disabling drop zones means not be able to see the place where the gold will drop. Not seeing it whereas all others are able to see ? It is a waste of place in settings

 

Leave the gold drop zones on if you want, but take the supplies boxes zones out

Edited December 1, 2014 by adem_2011

[Cooldude750 3]

semyon plz give my suggestion a chance           when we create the battle we can choose whether we want drops of crystals or the values added to the fund like it is now like we can choose the time for the battle.  Also other people plz give FEEDBACK.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Cooldude750

[delnina2 1,570]

Can someone

 tell me does he think on my idea    ?  ? 

Edited December 1, 2014 by delnina2

[Cooldude750 3]

Guys, I got a super idea !!! 

 

I think that the sign of the gold box  should be like a "pillar" !!

No cause then it would be too obvious

[delnina2 1,570]

No cause then it would be too obvious

ok,maybe you right thanks !!

[sudeeprauta 150]

rip to the crystal box may it rest in peace. 

 

feeling good and also sad on the dismissal of crystals boxes -_-  :wub:  :blush:  :excl:

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

when the smart cooldowns were released it was funny to see all the noob crystal collectors laughing at the druggers. saying it doesnt require skill to drug and now the game will be for skillful players only. always forgetting its the buyers that pay for your freeloading!

 

well then, these same players now crying that they cant sit around collecting crystals all day like the freeloaders they are. no skill required  doing that is there?  :lol: so now to gain free crystals you must play with skill :)

 

keep on crying about the loss of free drops. karma is a wonderful thing  :lol:

+++  hahahahahahha,although I'm no buyer (bought just 2 times but those were small packages) nice text :D :D :D this update was everything game needed :D

[Pathfinder 1,690]

+++++++++++++++

[rikoter_M3 9]

oh return the crystal boxes

[Promissory 569]

T_T useless updates ruining the game. Only 2 days with 100 boxes... the 2 brighter days of tanki.

[asifmak 467]

crunching , munching, chewing but i cant digest this update.

i miss the adorable cry boxes and those lovely 100s

the day of release with double funds - thats the only day in which i enjoyed this game upto fullest.

in last 2 days with triple fund i earned 62k but i didn't enjoyed while playing. only tense battles were there.