Guide [Issue 30] A Sniper's Sniping Spots - Serpuhov

[Kevred 1,586]

 

 

 

 

 

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A Sniper's Sniping Spots.txt

 

This file uses the Kirbian rating system, invented by Kirby2008.

 

Legend:

O  Optimal

O  Good

O  Average

O  Bad

O  Horrible

 

 

 

 

 

Number...1

 

 

 

Suits Railgun/Light Hull, because of the need of escaping quickly if targeted. Many drop zones next/and or under it, like Double Power drop zone on the ground at the top-left and a Nitro drop zone visible on the picture. Gives good visibility on the left part of the map, but easy for enemy snipers to shoot you. Overall, there's better sniping spots out there.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...2

 

 

 

Fits all kind of combos. Gives access to most of the middle territory, and it is easy to back off and get into cover if attacked. Putting a mine on both paths next to you will help a lot. Also, ability to jump onto the small mass of land in front of you provides a great mean of escape. In CTF battles, this spot allows you to defend the flag and attempt to catch enemy takers.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...3

 

 

 

Using tipping techniques with light rail (Light hull+ Railgun) permits the shooting of tanks on the lower ground in front of you, otherwise not much stuff to shoot here. It's rather safe, with the bridge shielding you from the left and central parts of Serp', but the same bridge also shields enemies from your barrel.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...4

 

 

 

 

Access to central zone is a huge asset here. For example, if the Gold drops, you'd have thousands of tanks to massacre (Well, I don't know why you would stay here and shoot instead of going for the Gold yourself, but whatever). Apart from that, similar to spot no.2

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...5

 

 

 

I would actually recommend spot no.2 instead of here, as it has the same advantages, with a lot less disadvantages. Here, you can be shot from enemies taking the right path into your base, also you're an easy target for enemies escaping with the flag. Obviously if you happen to spawn here with a Mammoth, I'd understand why you wouldn't drive all the way to spot no.2 .

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...6

 

 

 

A location only for light rail, since it requires the peek-a-boo tactic. In fact, with the aforementioned tactic, it's one of the most funnest spots in the game :P. I mean really, pop out, snipe some poor Hornet, and backtrack down the ramp behind you while putting a mine on it. Simple, easy, effective. How fun is that?

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number...7

 

 

 

Another peek-a-boo place, with the easy mine removed. Good visibility on part of the enemy base, not enough in my opinion. Before, when crystals boxes were still in the game, this was a great location for box hunters, since there was a pretty abundant drop zone behind them. Except now, there is little to no value left here. Feel free to go to spot 6 instead!

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

 

 

 

 

Number....1

 

 

 

This place and all the spots around it are the classic sniper's world. Was there ever a Serpuhov battle without a Shaft camping here? It has numerous advantages, such as good view over most parts of the map, good camouflage, and the fact that many enemies will take the path left and ignore you. But you're rather exposed.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number....2

 

 

 

It might not seem like it, but this is one of the most camouflage spots in the map. It doesn't have the dense shrubbery of Lost Temple, but it is nonetheless well camouflaged ( unless you're wearing a red sweater of course). Problem is, most tanker's know about this location, and will pay particular attention to it. talk about a party-pooper.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number....3

 

 

 

The counterpart to spot 4 of red team. Same advantages, same disadvantages, except this time you're on lower ground, so Railgun users are disadvantaged compared to Railguns of the other team. Many better spots to go to instead.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

Number....4

 

 

 

The opposite of spot 3 of red team. Again, it's mostly the same, except for a HUGE difference in safety. Here, the eastern path of the map leads DIRECTLY to you, whilst on the other side it leads sideways and gives the red sniper more chances of survival. To balance that, putting a mine in front of you will get rid of any close-rangers trying to cook you for dinner.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O  (Duh!)

 

 

Number....5

 

 

 

A rather unpopular location. why? Because of the chronic laziness that seems to be affecting the population. Coming here with a Mammoth takes AGES, so I won't blame you if you preferred other places. But if you have a hornet, then why not? In every way it's better than spot 3 of blue for Rails, since it's higher. But if you flip on the way...ouch.

 

Protection            O

Ease of access    O

Firing Radius        O

Camouflage          O

Overall                 O

 

 

 

And the best spot of the map is -

 

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Credit to for the new rating system

Credit to @Remaine for idea of putting spoilers

 

Do you like the new design? Or do you prefer the old one? Is there anything to improve? Share your thoughts below, because seriously guys, "Love it" is meaningless. Nah, that was a total lie. We love it when you say "Love it" !

 

And of course...

 

[Athena369 265]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

[DarthvaderjonGTR 615]

Keep up the good work Kevred :) I enjoyed that article, brought back many fond pleasant memories :)

[thunderousrailgunner 1,934]

Great !!  ;)

[Remaine 4,687]

Rank does not completely determine knowledge of the game; this is a common misconception in games such as this.

However, I do think this guide needs to be a lot more detailed in regards to explaining each position's utility/lack of utility - the spelling, grammar and punctuation's not all that either.
 

Edited January 2, 2015 by Remaine

[Kevred 1,586]

Hmm...true that. I'll try to make the next one more detailed.

[Superlative 500]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

Some part, I agree.

 

Hmm...true that. I'll try to make the next one more detailed.

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[jazz20 1,181]

Hmm...true that. I'll try to make the next one more detailed.

Great article Kevred. With time comes experience and knowledge, and I'm sure that with time, you will become just as good a writer as Remaine, Lhamster, and even Maddog21. You're probably a better writer than most tankers on the forum anyway. Keep it up!!! 

[naca7 143]

One of the first articles I go to read!

[rich678 1]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

Well... your're a lower rank than that person and 2 higher ranked players enjoyed this article.

Also, they may have been in the game for a long time and have experience and spent more time for being a reporter than playing.

I started playing this game over 1 year ago and spent lots of times reading guides,and was playing when things were different.. RANK DOESN"T DETERMINE KNOWLEDGE!. ALso, in my opinion this actually helps for other players, But, I agree that hog's articles are excellent 

Edited January 4, 2015 by rich678

[rich678 1]

Great article Kevred!

[Athena369 265]

Well... your're a lower rank than that person and 2 higher ranked players enjoyed this article.

Also, they may have been in the game for a long time and have experience and spent more time for being a reporter than playing.

I started playing this game over 1 year ago and spent lots of times reading guides,and was playing when things were different.. RANK DOESN"T DETERMINE KNOWLEDGE!. ALso, in my opinion this actually helps for other players, But, I agree that hog's articles are excellent 

No, simply no. Experience and rank does play a certain role on a players knowledge on this game. My point here is that  lower ranked players should not be allowed to contribute to the guides section with their lack of experience. IMO it will only result in worthless guides like this that doesn't play any role whatsoever in improving players mindset or  skills. Let me explain why.

 

 

1) Subject matter of this guide is simply worthless.- though it might be of some value to lower ranked players this guide is completely invaluable to medium to high ranked players. I am certainly sure every warrant officer that has played on the map seruphov even for once has an IQ  to understand where to camp/snipe on the map. What kevred (no offense intended) has done here is describe those already known stuff using his elaborate vocabulary. You can clearly see the difference between a well written guide with valuable info  ( take hogs XP guide for example) and this guide here. The different of knowledge both of those guides individually give us is massive. What do you really expect  yourself to do in the future by simply knowing some sniping spots in the map seruphov ( which is not even an official clan war map) + a map that becomes more and more rare in latter ranks?

2) The quality of this guide is really bad - I'm sure  you will notice the fact that this guide is not detailed enough even to make it to the guides section.  If you don't believe me go have a look at the press archive section. You will see how much time and effort has been spent on each and every single guide there.

 

 

Following are some of my suggestions to improve the guides section.

 

 

1) Only allowed players  with recognized skills/knowledge and experience to contribute to the guides section.

2) Ask those reporters to target every bit of the audience from private to gissimo rather than simply targeting a lower ranked audience.

3) Try to inspire the younger ( i.e lower ranked) generation of tankers through the guides section.

4) Try to get skilled/experienced members of the EN community to contribute to the guides section and if they don't have enough writing skills, form a small squad and complete the guide as a team.

5) Try and target the SL and format battles as much as possible. One of the reasons why the EN community has not yet managed to officially get a place in star series (AK were "chosen" on season 1 but they lost it as well) is simply because the lack of knowledge on SL among EN community players.

I have no personal vendetta against kevred and I'm extremely sorry if my opinions offended him in any manner. These are just some opinions from an experienced tanker.....

Edited January 4, 2015 by Athena369

[blackflag444 256]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

-.- like you could do any better

 

1. i think that the first one was better. it was more descriptive and i liked it better without spoilers.

2. kirbian-- heheh..heheheh...... ahahahhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

 

[Truthteller 4,204]

Well... your're a lower rank than that person and 2 higher ranked players enjoyed this article.

Also, they may have been in the game for a long time and have experience and spent more time for being a reporter than playing.

I started playing this game over 1 year ago and spent lots of times reading guides,and was playing when things were different.. RANK DOESN"T DETERMINE KNOWLEDGE!. ALso, in my opinion this actually helps for other players, But, I agree that hog's articles are excellent 

2 words Alternative account, ever heard of it :P

[11pd 9]

Nice.

[jbrockXX 16]

awesome that was a great guide enjoyed it except m not a sniper ;D

[m6ttetu 288]

Nice article :)

[MentallyDeranged 740]

Nice article,Already camped these places as well as i'm railgun user.  ^_^ 

 

 

Dear Kevred, just a note"On red team's camping place number 5,you wrote that it's protection is optimal, which can be being destroyed by right side's way by blue team. Also this guide has some interruptions that i can help you solve them as i'm playing on serpuhov more than 99% of my times ;)

 

Edited January 6, 2015 by MentallyDeranged

[MentallyDeranged 740]

A Note: The stat of the camp place's protection,ease of access and ... are different in levels,for example for Generalissimo players,camp

 

number 2 on red team is best choise for railgun and shaft users while for majors,it's something different,just test them out!  ;) 

[hogree 4,179]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

I always appreciate whenever players contribute to any sort of critiquing of the newspaper, as some of the best changes to it have happened when members of the community have been willing to voice their opinions and help to improve. It's great to be able to see it here. I however have to disagree with your quite vicious attack on the article here. Remaine posted above about the issue of rank not necessarily proving the knowledge of the players. However, that's not the particular problem I have with what you wrote. 

 

To quote you. "What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players". Now, I see there is a clear difference here between what you expected from this guide and what it actually was. It seems you expected/wanted a guide filling in-depth on the gameplay, helping you to use the sniping positions effectively, for usage in clan wars, high-ranked battles, like a Map Review perhaps, or a Weapon Guide. This article was NOT written for that purpose. This was written with the intention of providing an entertaining and yet intriguing piece of information reviewing on one using one of the most popular weapons in one of the most popular maps at lower ranks. And it succeeded. You also use the word "guide" a lot. Perhaps, we have different definitions, but I think that this is not just a guide. This is an interesting eye-catching article. Not particularly guiding. Maybe a review. But one thing's for sure. This is not worthless - not close.

 

You also mention in your later post that all of it is "already known" stuff. Well, I don't know about you, I've never considered the Protection, Ease of Access and Firing Radius of twelve designated sniping positions in the map, let alone Camouflage in each of them. And I've never considered planting mines on both sides of the path beside you as Kevred suggested in Red Team position Number 2. And that's barely delving into the article. There's a fair amount of meat there. It's unfair to say it's all known, worthless, and we can get rid. I would say that this piece of work has much more worth than a lot, even the majority, of articles published in this newspaper of the time. It's relevant, useful, and well-produced. Sure, there's room for improvement, but your damning report is uncalled for in this situation.

 

All the same, your feedback is appreciated. Don't let this post have stopped you from critiquing any more of the articles, thinking it's hopeless. Even here, you've helped me really think about the production of guides in the paper. It is clear from your post that you prefer more gameplay-directed instructive guides, and we will try to keep those coming your way. However, these "guides", as I said earlier, are not worthless. In many circles of players, they are more popular than the "Ultimate Guides" or "Map Reviews: Exploring the Unknown". And I intend for them to stay, and keep entertaining, informing and instructing readers.

Edited January 6, 2015 by hogree

[My_Tiger_Psy 4]

Job well done! :D

[g08408 10]

Nice! Interesting and entertaining!

[genak138 950]

This is exactly one of those reasons why you shouldn't have allowed lower ranked members of the community to join the reporter squad. True, they might have writing skills and the vocabulary that is needed to join the squad but they should not have been allowed to contribute to the guides section till they pass a certain rank. IMO this is an entirely worthless guide on a worthless map with entirely worthless info (with the exception for a "very" small no. Of lower ranked players). What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players like hog. Guides like these will never allow the EN community to dent the already behemoth RU community.

 

 

No, simply no. Experience and rank does play a certain role on a players knowledge on this game. My point here is that  lower ranked players should not be allowed to contribute to the guides section with their lack of experience. IMO it will only result in worthless guides like this that doesn't play any role whatsoever in improving players mindset or  skills. Let me explain why.

 

 

1) Subject matter of this guide is simply worthless.- though it might be of some value to lower ranked players this guide is completely invaluable to medium to high ranked players. I am certainly sure every warrant officer that has played on the map seruphov even for once has an IQ  to understand where to camp/snipe on the map. What kevred (no offense intended) has done here is describe those already known stuff using his elaborate vocabulary. You can clearly see the difference between a well written guide with valuable info  ( take hogs XP guide for example) and this guide here. The different of knowledge both of those guides individually give us is massive. What do you really expect  yourself to do in the future by simply knowing some sniping spots in the map seruphov ( which is not even an official clan war map) + a map that becomes more and more rare in latter ranks?

2) The quality of this guide is really bad - I'm sure  you will notice the fact that this guide is not detailed enough even to make it to the guides section.  If you don't believe me go have a look at the press archive section. You will see how much time and effort has been spent on each and every single guide there.

 

 

Following are some of my suggestions to improve the guides section.

 

 

1) Only allowed players  with recognized skills/knowledge and experience to contribute to the guides section.

2) Ask those reporters to target every bit of the audience from private to gissimo rather than simply targeting a lower ranked audience.

3) Try to inspire the younger ( i.e lower ranked) generation of tankers through the guides section.

4) Try to get skilled/experienced members of the EN community to contribute to the guides section and if they don't have enough writing skills, form a small squad and complete the guide as a team.

5) Try and target the SL and format battles as much as possible. One of the reasons why the EN community has not yet managed to officially get a place in star series (AK were "chosen" on season 1 but they lost it as well) is simply because the lack of knowledge on SL among EN community players.

I have no personal vendetta against kevred and I'm extremely sorry if my opinions offended him in any manner. These are just some opinions from an experienced tanker.....

This is actually a pretty informative guide, very useful for users of railgun and shaft, and shows a good knowledge of the game and skills necessary to play well. In fact, to get to that rank, you do need to have experience, or you will not do well.

Sorry everybody, I don't know how to do spoilers. 

Keep up the great work, Kevred!!! Great job!

[Baby_Sam 614]

Maybe this is addressed to sniping experts or people with reasonable experience there, but, if that was the case, they should already know it. If it is addressed to the general public, I think an introduction is in order, so the readership can connect with what you are saying rather than take your word for it as an expert on the subject.

 

If you think this is a worthy comment, please consider refining your article.

[Athena369 265]

 

I always appreciate whenever players contribute to any sort of critiquing of the newspaper, as some of the best changes to it have happened when members of the community have been willing to voice their opinions and help to improve. It's great to be able to see it here. I however have to disagree with your quite vicious attack on the article here. Remaine posted above about the issue of rank not necessarily proving the knowledge of the players. However, that's not the particular problem I have with what you wrote.

 

To quote you. "What we do need however are some more informative and inspiring guides like those written by experienced players". Now, I see there is a clear difference here between what you expected from this guide and what it actually was. It seems you expected/wanted a guide filling in-depth on the gameplay, helping you to use the sniping positions effectively, for usage in clan wars, high-ranked battles, like a Map Review perhaps, or a Weapon Guide. This article was NOT written for that purpose. This was written with the intention of providing an entertaining and yet intriguing piece of information reviewing on one using one of the most popular weapons in one of the most popular maps at lower ranks. And it succeeded. You also use the word "guide" a lot. Perhaps, we have different definitions, but I think that this is not just a guide. This is an interesting eye-catching article. Not particularly guiding. Maybe a review. But one thing's for sure. This is not worthless - not close.

 

You also mention in your later post that all of it is "already known" stuff. Well, I don't know about you, I've never considered the Protection, Ease of Access and Firing Radius of twelve designated sniping positions in the map, let alone Camouflage in each of them. And I've never considered planting mines on both sides of the path beside you as Kevred suggested in Red Team position Number 2. And that's barely delving into the article. There's a fair amount of meat there. It's unfair to say it's all known, worthless, and we can get rid. I would say that this piece of work has much more worth than a lot, even the majority, of articles published in this newspaper of the time. It's relevant, useful, and well-produced. Sure, there's room for improvement, but your damning report is uncalled for in this situation.

 

All the same, your feedback is appreciated. Don't let this post have stopped you from critiquing any more of the articles, thinking it's hopeless. Even here, you've helped me really think about the production of guides in the paper. It is clear from your post that you prefer more gameplay-directed instructive guides, and we will try to keep those coming your way. However, these "guides", as I said earlier, are not worthless. In many circles of players, they are more popular than the "Ultimate Guides" or "Map Reviews: Exploring the Unknown". And I intend for them to stay, and keep entertaining, informing and instructing readers.

totally agree with most of those things you mentioned in the reply though there are still some stuff that i believe should not happen in the future.

 

When i was a lower ranked player i was totally in love with skitees and ranger's guides on maps, gameplay and strategies. In fact i must admit that those guides/articles were the keystone of who I currently am. ( you know my true identity :) ). It was then that i got to see your guide on XP which acted as a career changer for me. I wouldn't simply be where I am today if that guide was not there.(That is the exact reason why i love you both as a reporter and as an experienced player )

 

The question I always ask myself whenever after going through articles like these is, Do the lower ranked community keep getting informative and inspiring like those which i used to get when i was at the same position? The answer is yes most of the time...but after going through something like this article, i tend to totally disagree with myself..

 

Thanks yet again for your valued reply pig

Edited January 7, 2015 by Athena369