Let's Discuss Hammer!

[wolverine848 13,097]

Hammer M4 reload between shots has gone from 1.9 sec to 1.8 sec. Clip reload has gone from 4 sec to 5 sec. 

A +20% (clip reload) might seem like a lot. But when you consider it takes Isida 10 seconds to replenish the tank it doesn't seem so bad.

And don't think about attacking with isida before you're full - you run dry in no time.

 

What's Hammer M3 reload now?

 

And 1.8 for hammer M4 vs ... what is current smoky M4 reload (they nerfed it 2x right?) ?

 

I still don't understand how the Devs can say "Hammer is OP" and then decrease the shot re-load time.

Edited February 16, 2017 by wolverine848

[PracticeParkourStunt 2,542]

reload between shots is supposed to be quicker. You did not notice a difference?

Nope. For me, it still looks the same. Perhaps it's a 0.1 difference. :\

[Mofuka 30]

A +20% (clip reload) might seem like a lot. But when you consider it takes Isida 10 seconds to replenish the tank it doesn't seem so bad.

With Isida you don't have to wait until full recharge to start firing again, while with hammer you don't have a choice, you are a sitting duck for 6 seconds.

But what annoys me more is the worse accuracy of Hammer. If you shoot from 20+ meters you will often do too little damage, even if you are aiming precisely, and you can't always be 100% precise, which means a lot of wasted damage. You have to use it only from super close distance, but then the close range weapons will destroy you.

The ricocheting pellets doesn't do damage to other tanks, but can only do damage to you if you hoot at a wall from close. This is useless change, can't be used strategically.

Slow and inaccurate. No, thanks. I wouldn't use it anymore, there are better weapons.

[wolverine848 13,097]

With Isida you don't have to wait until full recharge to start firing again, while with hammer you don't have a choice, you are a sitting duck for 6 seconds.

But what annoys me more is the worse accuracy of Hammer. If you shoot from 20+ meters you will often do too little damage, even if you are aiming precisely, and you can't always be 100% precise, which means a lot of wasted damage. You have to use it only from super close distance, but then the close range weapons will destroy you.

The ricocheting pellets doesn't do damage to other tanks, but can only do damage to you if you hoot at a wall from close. This is useless change, can't be used strategically.

Slow and inaccurate. No, thanks. I wouldn't use it anymore, there are better weapons.

The recharge for attacking is at 1/2.  Takes 10 seconds to fully recharge to give you a 5 second attack. If you attack after 2 seconds recharge you only have one second for attack. Then empty again. Heal someone then try to attack shortly after? LOL - lucky to have a two second attack.

I've used it. It is not as effective as before.

 

Devs claim ricocheting pellets do damage (same as Ricco). Maybe your bouncing pellets are missing?

Edited February 17, 2017 by wolverine848

[PracticeParkourStunt 2,542]

Can anyone give me some tips on how to be a professional with hammer?

[Mofuka 30]

The recharge for attacking is at 1/2.  Takes 10 seconds to fully recharge to give you a 5 second attack. If you attack after 2 seconds recharge you only have one second for attack. Then empty again. Heal someone then try to attack shortly after? LOL - lucky to have a two second attack.

I've used it. It is not as effective as before.

 

Devs claim ricocheting pellets do damage (same as Ricco). Maybe your bouncing pellets are missing?

That's what I'm saying. With Isida you can attack after 1-2 seconds recharging doing respectively 720-1440 damage. With Hammer you have to wait until it's fully charged, you can't shoot earlier.

 

I use Isida regularly, now it's twice more effective,

[Akame 4,587]

Hammer is an OP turret still, people just don't know how to use it.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Hammer M4 reload between shots has gone from 1.9 sec to 1.8 sec. Clip reload has gone from 4 sec to 5 sec. 

So how have you found it since the update?  You getting more? same? less? kills on average?

[Akame 4,587]

So how have you found it since the update?  You getting more? same? less? kills on average?

I have X4 Hammer, ( X4 = M4 plus all available alterations) and i find it actually much better, i think it has become more OP, i mean the ability to bounce off one surface is epic in built up areas and for parkour, a win-win.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I have X4 Hammer, ( X4 = M4 plus all available alterations) and i find it actually much better, i think it has become more OP, i mean the ability to bounce off one surface is epic in built up areas and for parkour, a win-win.

Glad you're happy with it.  Now I need to upgrade my Badger T-A :(

[Tani_S 736]

So how have you found it since the update?  You getting more? same? less? kills on average?

I'd say less, but not because of Hammer, but rather coz I play less. My motivation for Tanki is on a long-term low level at the moment, on the hand because of these updates and the overall development, on the other hand because of real life time constraints, which will also increase in near future. Anyway, it would be cool if we could rely on TO announcement informations. The biggest problem in TO in my eyes is the indifference and disinterest towards players, but that is probably caused by cultural differences in expectations and actions. Sorry for being off-topic.

[ssANGELOFDEATHss 8]

I don't find Hammer to be very good now... it seems that accuracy has been considerably nerfed. The ricochet effect has been useful in some situations, but I don't think Hammer is something worth investing in. 

Would the 5 shot clip be worth it now? 

[salmankhan9924 6]

The best hull for hammer is hornet

Hornet is better than viking

Viking is my favourite hull LOL

[deathfromabove_tanki 92]

I am really considering getting the fireworks kit. opinions on that? is it going to be powerful as I progress into higher ranks? I will buy viking or hunter later on during a different sale. I will have 70k crystals left, which I can use for MUs, and possibly buy the high capacity drum whenever there is a 50% sale on it (may day?)

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

I am really considering getting the fireworks kit. opinions on that? is it going to be powerful as I progress into higher ranks? I will buy viking or hunter later on during a different sale. I will have 70k crystals left, which I can use for MUs, and possibly buy the high capacity drum whenever there is a 50% sale on it (may day?)

Its a good kit. Put 10 mus on both and buy the slugger alt. HCD is kinda bad now.

[PracticeParkourStunt 2,542]

I don't find Hammer to be very good now... it seems that accuracy has been considerably nerfed. The ricochet effect has been useful in some situations, but I don't think Hammer is something worth investing in. 

Would the 5 shot clip be worth it now? 

The 5 shot clip will still be worth it if you try to capture flags. You need as many shots as quickly as possible to capture flags. 

 

I am really considering getting the fireworks kit. opinions on that? is it going to be powerful as I progress into higher ranks? I will buy viking or hunter later on during a different sale. I will have 70k crystals left, which I can use for MUs, and possibly buy the high capacity drum whenever there is a 50% sale on it (may day?)

Do not buy fireworks kit. Just rank up one step and then buy the Glaze kit. Hammer m2 is just one rank higher than you, so no point at getting that, but you can get viking m2 along with Glaze when you rank up, which will make your hammer m2 OP. So, I suggest not to buy Fireworks now, instead, wait for glaze. About the High Capacity Drum, I suggest that you buy it ONLY if you are the attacker of a CTF battle.

[5HADOW 249]

This is why I don't use Hammer very often. Way too many people with Hammer protection.

 

[Heles 9,220]

This is why I don't use Hammer very often. Way too many people with Hammer protection.

 

 

:3 for me, i dont use thunder 

[Aibner 47]

I like it: especially with the epic bouncing effect. It makes it much better for parkour battles.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

People say Hammer loses to Fire and Freeze close-up. But usually that is not the case. The hammer will knock the fire and freeze around, meaning the freeze will only inflict around a half of its actual damage.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Don't buy the slugger alt, it's just a bad idea, the tighter pellets is not worth it.

Edited April 20, 2017 by DieselPlatinum

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

People say Hammer loses to Fire and Freeze close-up. But usually that is not the case. The hammer will knock the fire and freeze around, meaning the freeze will only inflict around a half of its actual damage.

Usually on a light hull too, 2 shots and they die.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Don't buy the slugger alt, it's just a bad idea, the tighter pellets and farther range is not worth it.

Its very much worth it because of how hard it is to 3 shot medium hulls.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Its very much worth it because of how hard it is to 3 shot medium hulls.

I still wouldn't buy it, unless they give it range increase, because of the extremely slow rotation speed.

[Nolo 366]

Everytime I try to cast my votes for Hammer, it gives me an error...  :mellow:

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