Night Mode for maps and Shaft’s laser scope

[Buragan 7]

да, согласен - шафт теперь можно выбросить в помойку, потому, что ему больше не спрятаться - медлительный на перезарядку он стал беспомощным и бесполезным

[Funtankforward 1]

I understand why many Tankis  are angers by Shaft users but it is not warranted.  The latest change is unwarranted.

 

Here is why. 
The largest problem right now, is if you are killed in the game, it is very difficult to determine where the kill came from, regardless of weapon type.  I think the Railgun is far more evil than Shaft yet we have no prior marking from Railgun. 

 

Why are you singling out shaft? And why change the program which hardly addresses the problem?

 

When I get killed, I don't care who killed me or what weapon they used, but where did it come from?  In the real world, I would have real evidence to figure it out, but with Tanki, I can only hope the overview shown after the kill will give me a clue but too often it does not.

 

Furthermore, for those really concerned about Shaft and Railgun, when three players team up they can take down these snipers. It takes a bit of added skill and cooperation.   Which leads me to my next point.

 

Tanki needs to provide team communications only options. If I want to direct my read team, I need an easy way to tell them what I think without the opposing team knowing. From what I can tell, the chat options do not allow this. 

 

Finally, I hope the Tanki developers will make contact with me personally as I have many many years of experience with this technology.  I tried Tanki years ago and forgot about it and only recently rejoined and now it really really rocks.  

[logan1_3000 1]

come on! laser lines? players can trace the line and find the snipers, you know??

how about u all remove the line and just place a dot on the targeted dude?

[boboiii 90]

have a complain about new laser beam on Shaft:u said that that laser beam is added because shafter are hard to spot and hard to predict theyr shots.But that is not true...there are a set of clues that allows you to llocate a Shafter position:the flash at the end of the turret can be seen even in boshes,u can also locate it after the recoyl inflicted by a shaft onto your tank.Every gun have his own unique feature(isida:healing.selfhealing,ricochet:plasma balls can "jump"(sorry i dont know the propper word)..anyway...Shafts most important feature is that it has a scope,and with scopes help u can hide and play in "stealth" mode...that is Shaft most important propetty:Stealth,just like a sniper...now...what does that laser beam does?...well...it ruins Shaft most important feature(Stealth) by showing your enemy not just your every single move while you are in sniping mode and allowing him to avoid your aim with no problem,it also allows him to see your exact location.From my experience i saw that not more then 20% of players are using Shaft...and now,with this laser beam there will be even less players ,i mean,why would they use Shaft anymore?To go in a map,make 1-2 kills and then with his laser beam "saying":"Hey...its a Shafter over here...come take him down!!!".This laser beam is a BAD update for Shaft,it just ruins this weapon,is just like you would take isida property to selfheal or heal teammates or taking thunders splash damage or taking freeze freezing effect or firebirds afterburn effect...what would be if you would take those propertyes from those weapons???Well this is exactly what you did with Shaft.I know that you are not going remove the leaser beam only because of my complin..but today in game chat i saw everyone complining abou it.Even if it would be more complains you would still not remove the laser beam...but what i suggest...for both sake (Shafters and shafters enemyes) is that to remove the laser beam,but not completly,i mean it should be just like a red/blue Dott on enemyes tank...not like now...a straight laser beam that (i already said his negative effects)...and because you make the laser be only one Dott...u can make back the shaky aim while sniping mode...but not fullyas before...somewhere at the middle between the normal shake and the "still" aim.Thank you for reading my message and i really hope you will do something about that laser beam(i dont want to show off but i have only one m3,and its Shaft,and with this laser it becomes useless(already said why) and i would really like to be able to use it again because its a great weapon).Thank you for your time.Have a nice day :)

Shaft is my main weapon.I cant make captures of flags and points...all the xp i gain is from KILLS

I spend a lot of crys on m3...but with this Update...hmmm....if the "old" shaft is not comming back i will really consider to quit not just Shaft but the whole Tanki game...it was a good year of gamming and exiting moments and i hope it will keep going...but who knows?...maybe you will have with 1 player less in the game:( :( :( plz remove the lasrer :( :( :(

[boboiii 90]

Laser*

[boboiii 90]

You said with your own words :" Tanki online is a game easy to learn but hard to master"..Then why are you listening to some childs who are not able to develop some tactics against shaft?Why are you giving them such a huge "push up"?Leave them learn on the Hard way...just like we did...Shaft was already in desavantage in medium and close range...now you have took him also the advantage in long range???At what were you thinking???And by removing the shaky aim you taked the skill out of shaft...and i was a really skilled shafter before this update...but with this "still" aim every time i enter in snipe mode i feel verry dissy and i have the "tendince" too keep moveving my aim to have a clear shott :( :( :(  ...and however mush skill you have you cant deal with a HUGE targett on your back :( :( :(

[boboiii 90]

moving*...however much* skill...

[losehopegranddad 1]

The night mode is great... it would be even better if its a bit less dark. But the shaft is not that cool. what is the meaning of being a sniper if it is visible to everybody. Shaft is useless without stealth.

 

All the other upgrades are pretty awesome.

 

 

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Edited December 6, 2014 by losehopegranddad

[r_ahmadoffline0 1]

update or downdate???

it`s verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry bad!

i want my shaft without laser!!!!!!!!

[hanshjc 13]

THERE ARE MANY FORUM POSTS ABOUT THE SHAFT LASER SCOPE SAYING IT'S A VERY BAD FUNCTION !

OLD SHAFT FUNCTION SHOULD COME BACK, NOW IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE ANY MORE.

DEVELOPERS: JUST BRING BACK 'NORMAL' SHAFT !!! THANKS

[hanshjc 13]

I LOVE THE NEW SHAFT!!! also i don't know if i said this but for the ? of the week i voted for the zebra mammoth with twins team for second place.

WHEN YOU SAY YOU LIKE NEW SHAFT ;  YOU ARE NOT A 'PROFESSIONAL' SHAFTER, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT NEW SHAFT, GIVE US OLD SHAFT BACK !

[deadmanrising 715]

They hate shaft so much, that's why they made it worse by including a laser, to give people a chance to "avoid" it apparently, totally not needed, childish update, snipers aren't ever suppose to be seen, no matter the circumstances, stupid idea

[hanshjc 13]

Dear Tanki and all fellow Tankmen,

 

My thoughts on the night mode and shaft are very important, please read and if you agree give me a 1+ so the developers can view my post with ease.

 

*Night mode: It's a great addition to Tanki online. (That's all)

 

 

*Shaft: I am a shaft player and a very good one. I watch as other guns are improved and see how everyone reacts and let me tell you about this update with Shaft. As a player with shaft you can't get the flag often, get goldboxes, CP's, and much of anything besides one thing: Killing.

While others get xp from Capturing flags and controlling CP's shafts have to guard, kill, and defend. That's their job. As a hornet-shaft and mammoth-shaft player I've both seen and experienced shaft in great detail. The new scope/laser removes shafts of all those kills and thus xp points. Shaft went from Great-Terrible and although to others it may seem "harmless" the shaft is now visible like a railgun, and targeted like God_Mode_On. I can't camp without being seen, shoot without having to move, or pretty much anything as long as I'm battling. The only exception to this update is if your a Shaft-hornet player as you are much more aggressive in battle trying to cap flags and such. But if your a mammoth m2 with almost no mobility options and enemies see you, they will take advantage and run far away. You won't be able to get kills if your a shaft or not as much and thus won't rank nearly as fast as before. All your crystals will go to waste and shaft will die in popularity. Leave shaft the way it was and don't change it. If you do I may have to quit tanki as shaft will be targeted easily. Shaft is a skilled gun and I love it. The new update sucks because you're seen too often and your laser allows others to know where your hitting at. I loved it when I could fake others out of snipe mode and totally murder them. In short this update sucks for shaft players.

 

The conclusion is to either refund Tanki Mammoth and shaft players or stay with the old update of shaft and have it as it used to be. If you remove this I will most likely quit as shaft is my favorite gun and I'll be crushed. :(

 

-TheThreeWishes (Part of Clan SMK)

 

I AGREE YOU 100%    But they will not refund anything, sadly.   (we just learnt the hard reality lesson of paying money for something that turned out useless. So, another case of people are just after the money only and not care...)

[hanshjc 13]

The night mode is amazing and a new twist of the game! Awesome!! Should be made possible on all maps. Meteo conditions too, maybe earthquakes hehe. The video cards are powerful enough in order to allow more detailed and sophisticated maps and conditions.

 

The laser beam for the snippers should be introduced at most in night mode, but in day mode is not a fair handicap for the shaft. I'm not a shaft player (only maybe when I'm doing upgrades on my railgun), I prefer to enjoy more mobility and be more versatile in game, but I love to spot and kill a snipper that makes a lot of damage to my team. Also one-on-one confrontation with a shaft is always a challenging one as no place for mistakes is left. The vibration and the long time re-charging in snipper mode makes enough to drag the advantages of the shaft down and equilibrate it with the other guns in the game.

 

Anyway, it's good to see changes happens and I hope our voice (the gamers) will be listen and what is good will be kept and what is wrong will be removed from the game. Thank you, tanki!

I AGREE YOU 100% .................   but Developers are not replying to anything/anybody, I guess they have their reasons for destroying SHAFT,  must be the new Turrets they will release soon...    But Balance in the game is GONE

[hanshjc 13]

ANY OTHER GOOD ONLINE GAME  ?   anyone can advise me ?  

 

not WoW or Call of Duty kind-of-game, but same gameplay as Tankionline (before they destroyed the game for the great Shafters...)

[Warluss 0]

Well... I'we been shaft + hornet 90% of the gaming time... and crystals spent. I 'we been upgrading firebird for the purpose when odds are 2:6 when game changes and all the "kids" leave 'cose of the score... and shaft becomes a darts dead center; and oposing color overwhelmes spawning area.

This is where "changing EQ " is a great update.

Anyway... camper-shafts were before and now with this laser beam a great mark.

This laser update forces shaft users to change position 10 times more frequently... which is not an easy manoevre on most of the maps.

"PRO Shaft" - trains to be in a scope mode as less as possible.... mostly not over 1 sec after  total scope zooming time; and switch to secondary position to mask a trail and reload as fast as possible cose of obvious reasons. This tactics kept me in 1st or 2nd places on scoreboard of every game.

m1 shaft turret with full micro-upgrades penetrates with 2 shots anything without double armor (of proportional ranks)... thats why those results were possible.

...now ... what occures ... its enough to aim ones with laser/scope you get smoky crit and far more problematic thunder splash damage that forces shaft eather to "drug" toolbox ; to run for a dropped toolbox ; or to stay 1 on 1 with armored and immediately double-damage drugged thunder... guess the outcome...

There are pro-shaft-hunters in the game... mainly railgunners...now they have a great overlay of the map to position their railgun for a kill.

I know that developers are probably not too happy with a non-donor player like me, but option 1 is not possible for me.

This laser scope makes this game too much an arcade... so I 'we been playing my firebird since.

Removing the crystal drops impruved the game, 'cose now players run for a kill instead for boxes; and that sharpens the fight and if frequency of kills on both sides reaches the algorithm ... there you have a goldbox.

Players complaining for crystals drops are anywhey useless in a team fight.

20 sec delay on dropbox after anouncement gives just enough time to try to rech it without having 10 "drugged" tanks in the middle of the map... and I think its a good update.

Nightmode - great ... gives now dynamics to the game... and a whole new view on tanki online.

 

Sorry for a long post...

CU in the game.

[SulfuricAcid 504]

B) i like it :)

add the key of turning on and off lights for tanks so that they can whenever they like turn their lights on or off not only in night mode but also in day mode

[netraider_1 5]

As a shaft user in standing tactics, I am not happy with this update and might switch to other weapon now. 

In my opinion: FAIL UPDATE

 

[DARKWING228 1]

as far as I can tell this update for Shafts is kind of useless, most of the time you can hardly see the laser especially the blue one and I allways knew where the shafts were that wasn't the problem and I certainatly don't need giant lasers crisscrossing the map it's just too distracting please remove it, the problem I and probably a few other people have with Shaft is stated below. As for the removing shake from Shaft seriously it was OP beforehand and now you're just making it even easier to oneshot people. Here is my opinion on Shaft, it charges up too quickly for the damage it does, I'll give you a situation I use Smokey M1 on my Viking and I was going up against an M0 Shaft player, I fired a shot then he went into Sniper mode and I was only able to fire off one more shot before he oneshotted me.

Edited December 6, 2014 by DARKWING228

[RustyNail 1,538]

DRUGGING SUCKS!

 

Do something at last!

 

Stop promoting it!

 

:angry:

[irene44 0]

Stupid laser light totally gives away my hiding place! :angry:

What is the use having a sniper gun when you have to blind not te see where it is hiding?

It's me who's being the target after this stupid idea of laser beams. :angry:

 

..... and I want the crystal drops back, I don't enjoy the game anymore..., first you take away the crystal drops and now you lead everybody to my hiding places with these laser beams.

 

GRRRRR. :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Vman51 2]

The night mode is NICE, but to ad the laser to the Shaft is crazy.  It's a sniper… Well its not anymore.  Did that many players cry that you had to change?

 

If you going to burden the Shaft with the laser you should put the laser on all long rage weapons to even the playing field.

 

Just Saying……….

:huh:

 

 

[fotographe 3]

FAIL

 

The whole point of SNIPING is to not be seen.  You've just completely stripped that away with this update.  Probably the most ******ed turret update since I began playing in March 2014.

 

If you want to give a "hint" to make things "fair", then show an illuminated dot on the target's hull or on objects nearby. At most perhaps show a tiny red dot on the sniper. But to show a laser from point A to point B is idiotic. Tanki developers needs to rethink this one.  Absolutely stupid!

 

For the naysayers I add...shaft is already purposely disadvantaged in close quarter combat. The turret turns relatively slowly, arcade damage is significantly lower, and reload time is fairly long for sniping.  There was absolutely no need whatsoever to further handicap the turret with this update.  Experienced players know how to deal with snipers.

 

This is what happens when you let young developers who have ZERO actual military experience make unrealistic tactical changes to a game that is based on....wait for it....military weaponry and tactics. My guess is they thought the laser was "cool". Thankfully they do not design actual military equipment.

 

What's the next update?  Perhaps we can have an avatar that pops up with helpful hints such as: "shhhhh the enemy is hiding right around the next corner on the left...it's a thunder/mammy/prodigi combo...you might want to switch to your rico with needle paint. Proceed with caution".

 

Just give me back the shake (which was never an issue for me), and get rid of the stupid laser.  

 

WIN

 

On the other hand, I have been waiting for a night mode to finally be released. I haven't tried it yet but I am sure it's fantastic.  The next thing on my wish list is weather conditions such as rain/snow/thunder. Night mode is a huge win.

 

Tanki developers...you got this one half right. Obviously noobs who hate snipers are going to love the dead giveaway (might as well hold their hands and help them drive their tanks while you're at it) ....but any player with experience knows where to look for snipers and doesn't need a laser beam "hint".

 

FAIL

 

The whole point of SNIPING is to not be seen.  You've just completely stripped that away with this update.  Probably the most ******ed turret update since I began playing in March 2014.

 

If you want to give a "hint" to make things "fair", then show an illuminated dot on the target's hull or on objects nearby. At most perhaps show a tiny red dot on the sniper. But to show a laser from point A to point B is idiotic. Tanki developers needs to rethink this one.  Absolutely stupid!

 

For the naysayers I add...shaft is already purposely disadvantaged in close quarter combat. The turret turns relatively slowly, arcade damage is significantly lower, and reload time is fairly long for sniping.  There was absolutely no need whatsoever to further handicap the turret with this update.  Experienced players know how to deal with snipers.

 

This is what happens when you let young developers who have ZERO actual military experience make unrealistic tactical changes to a game that is based on....wait for it....military weaponry and tactics. My guess is they thought the laser was "cool". Thankfully they do not design actual military equipment.

 

What's the next update?  Perhaps we can have an avatar that pops up with helpful hints such as: "shhhhh the enemy is hiding right around the next corner on the left...it's a thunder/mammy/prodigi combo...you might want to switch to your rico with needle paint. Proceed with caution".

 

Just give me back the shake (which was never an issue for me), and get rid of the stupid laser.  

 

WIN

 

On the other hand, I have been waiting for a night mode to finally be released. I haven't tried it yet but I am sure it's fantastic.  The next thing on my wish list is weather conditions such as rain/snow/thunder. Night mode is a huge win.

 

Tanki developers...you got this one half right. Obviously noobs who hate snipers are going to love the dead giveaway (might as well hold their hands and help them drive their tanks while you're at it) ....but any player with experience knows where to look for snipers and doesn't need a laser beam "hint".

Completly agreeing with this post  should have the option of putting the laser ON or OFF  or should have the option that they should reimburse me all the crystal that I have spent to get my shaft gun the way it is ,They modified my turret in a way I would have not taken when I started to play tank on line It like being in a middle of a field with a flashlight . I hate this update  WANT MY CRYSTAL REIMBURSEMENT PLEASE 250000 CRYSTAL to my account  

[r_Boppy0 11]

The debate over the Shaft laser rages on . . . . .  .

 

It seems to me this (generally) results in one of two views being taken:

 

Most Shaft users hate the laser as it has rendered the Shaft useless as a sniper weapon and turned it into what amounts to be an expensive decoy.

 

Many non-Shaft users love the laser as it makes their life easier.

 

I really do not understand this view from non-Shaft users - unless, that is, they never, ever, take part in Team battles! But if you do take part in Team Battles, may I respectfully suggest you read (if you have not already done so) my previous post in which I attempt to set out why you really should want to see a pre-laser pre-nerfed Shaft on YOUR TEAM! My earlier post can be found on:

 

Page 19 of the posts (4 December at 20.51).

 

Hope this helps to clarify why the laser Shaft is such a bad move.

Edited December 6, 2014 by r_Boppy0

[dgslima82 143]

Completly agreeing with this post  should have the option of putting the laser ON or OFF  or should have the option that they should reimburse me all the crystal that I have spent to get my shaft gun the way it is ,They modified my turret in a way I would have not taken when I started to play tank on line It like being in a middle of a field with a flashlight . I hate this update  WANT MY CRYSTAL REIMBURSEMENT PLEASE 250000 CRYSTAL to my account  

 

You should follow this link, I guess its self explainatory

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbU3zdAgiX8