Sportmanship and Alt Accounts

[Baby_Sam 614]

It is pretty popular for higher rank people to have alternate accounts with lower ranks where they realize their fantasies of becoming heroes as they beat up real low rank players.

 

I think that is unfair unless you tell everyone that you are actually a higher rank person that is crashing their game to take advantage of them and ruin their game AND they agree.

 

Naturally, they have an argument that at that level, they are using the same equipment like the low ranks but they just have more skill, and there is nothing wrong with having more skill.

 

Until a few days ago, I was only using M0 stuff available to recruits and privates. I never thought it was fair for me to fight against them, not that it is allowed by Tanki. I once got invited to a DM with people a few ranks lower than mine (I was just a seargent), I accepted and then apologize and quit. It would have been unfair to them, regardless of the equipment. Whenever I join a battle where lower ranks are there (I only joine if I see it unbalanced), I do not shoot at anyone who doesn't shoot at me or passes very close to me. I never go after anyone in such conditions. That isn't because I have M3 equipment and they have M0 equipment.

 

Can I ask you this question? Do you think it would have been fair if Richard the Lion Heart gave you a sword superior than his and invited you to a duel? He is even using equipment inferior to yours, but would you take that challenge? It is just skill, nothing more.

 

Why do you think it is okay to ruin other people's game?

 

The answer to that, if you agree, is that because most people have disregard to others. They only think about their own selves, their own fun, and their own rewards. That isn't as bad as it seems though, because this is the nature of man. They are not especially better or worse than others. They are average or mediocre. I just want to say here that not all people are like that, and that it is within your reach and you have no excuses.

Edited December 25, 2014 by Baby_Sam

[kayitsiz 621]

İ agree, but it is not possible to be soluted. There are lots of all accounts already.

[Promissory 569]

Well, noobs will learn to defend themselves, and earn skills. If it was only noobs vs noobs, how would they learn?

[MrsTankBuster2 141]

Well, noobs will learn to defend themselves, and earn skills. If it was only noobs vs noobs, how would they learn?

I was thinking the same, though of course, that is not necessarily the motivation for some of those who have alt. accounts. :P My first account is now my lower ranked alt. count - I have since started again as I wanted to spend earned crystals in a different way.

 

However, I started using my lower rank alt. again recently, as I found there is a better variety of CP game maps in the early ranks, so I don't think everyone's motives would be just to beat 'noobs' up - though granted that probably would be some. I don't like 'cheating' or bullying in any shape or form, and I always prefer to join the side of the underdog.

 

When I first joined Tanki, I can't say that I felt set upon by what seemed like vastly superior players who were the same rank as me (and believe me, I ain't that good at it!) - so maybe they are in the minority compared to the amount of players that are 'genuinely' new?

[kayitsiz 621]

Well, noobs will learn to defend themselves, and earn skills. If it was only noobs vs noobs, how would they learn?

How did you learn first time?

How did first players learn first times of the game?

 

Something like that

[jazz20 1,181]

Noobs deserved to be roughened up so they know that to be good in this game, you need skill (unless you rely on drugging <_< ). Plus any experience a tanker has that can motivate him/her to be better is priceless.

[Baby_Sam 614]

Noobs deserved to be roughened up so they know that to be good in this game, you need skill (unless you rely on drugging <_< ). Plus any experience a tanker has that can motivate him/her to be better is priceless.

You are not serious, right? A noob can at will join battles who have players at least higher than themselves by 5 ranks. They do not need you to take advantage of them to learn. If you are so smart and skillful, why don't you teach the people of your same higher ranks? I am sure there are a lot who can use some learning, and they deserve it more than noobs.

Edited December 26, 2014 by Baby_Sam

[Loackie 269]

You are not going to fight the same noob repeatedly and ruin his whole career before he even got WO1...

 

You can only "crash their game" for a set amount of people and in most likely regular time frames. Chances are if you see someone else again that was really good (alt or not) you either play normally as if he wasn't an alt, or learn from last game about that person's playstyle. Most people DON'T care if a tank is an alt or not. They play the game normally...(unless you're a hardcore drugger in that case, but theen people WILL care regardless if it's an alt or not..)

[Baby_Sam 614]

You are not going to fight the same noob repeatedly and ruin his whole career before he even got WO1...

 

You can only "crash their game" for a set amount of people and in most likely regular time frames. Chances are if you see someone else again that was really good (alt or not) you either play normally as if he wasn't an alt, or learn from last game about that person's playstyle. Most people DON'T care if a tank is an alt or not. They play the game normally...(unless you're a hardcore drugger in that case, but theen people WILL care regardless if it's an alt or not..)

You are like saying: We should legalize murder. In the end, how many people would be killed? Maybe murders would double, but look how much we could save in legal fees, trials, police work, suspense, news coverage, etc. and divert our resources to more important issues. In the end, we can't stop murder whatever we do.

 

The fact that something is not common does not make it right if it is not right to start with. I agree with you that it is not very common so far. I can't tell if I have experienced it or not, but I have left quite a few battles because I was not doing well for some reason or another.

[Loackie 269]

The reason I say something is not common because if something is not common it's not a huge problem for the community. One battle is not the community, it's like a small house party. however, actions within the max 40 person (that's really pushing it) house party do not affect the community, which i would assume about 90k regular players. Alts are going to be part of any game, might as well deal with it.

[Baby_Sam 614]

The reason I say something is not common because if something is not common it's not a huge problem for the community. One battle is not the community, it's like a small house party. however, actions within the max 40 person (that's really pushing it) house party do not affect the community, which i would assume about 90k regular players. Alts are going to be part of any game, might as well deal with it.

I am dealing with it by raising awareness that it is wrong to take advantage of less experienced people. How are you dealing with it?

[CrimsonSaviour 40]

I fully agree, but eventually everyone learns. The hard way or the easy way. As a noob myself I love to copy other people's tactics; and if a tactic is good in battle, why not practice the same thing? I welcome more skillful players around the same rank with open arms as well as being more motivated. I agree with Jazz20 says. In any case, it's either you win or you lose in this game. Period.

Edited December 28, 2014 by CrimsonSaviour

[Baby_Sam 614]

I fully agree, but eventually everyone learns. The hard way or the easy way. As a noob myself I love to copy other people's tactics; and if a tactic is good in battle, why not practice the same thing? I welcome more skillful players around the same rank with open arms as well as being more motivated. I agree with Jazz20 says. In any case, it's either you win or you lose in this game. Period.

I doubt you would agree with Jazz20 if you played for 20 minutes to get 20 crystals.

 

Remember that it is not your duty to roughen people and teach them; it is their choice, not yours. If you are such a smart major or general, don't you think your same rank deserves to learn your tactics more than recruits and privates or do you know that your tactics are not good enough for your real rank?

Edited December 28, 2014 by Baby_Sam

[blackopspaul 753]

By fighting a pro, you learn from the mistakes of dieing and conquer skills to beat him/her. 

[Loackie 269]

IRL during physical education and we play a game, when an adult starts playing, what do we do? "OMFG ur an adult not faer i quit" yeah no. Chances are, you're more like, "hmm let's see if s/he's really that good." Then if he/she is a good athlete, i'd say close to 99% of people accept the challenge. Why? It's a game.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Loackie

[CrimsonSaviour 40]

I doubt you would agree with Jazz20 if you played for 20 minutes to get 20 crystals.

 

Remember that it is not your duty to roughen people and teach them; it is their choice, not yours. If you are such a smart major or general, don't you think your same rank deserves to learn your tactics more than recruits and privates or do you know that your tactics are not good enough for your real rank?

I have been at that end before, it's hella annoying; but only because the enemy team keep spamming drugs and I have too small amount to fight back (And perhaps very skillful.) But there's really nothing much I can do except fighting back. I'm just a WO 3..... Not a Major or a General.  People of that rank must be skillful enough to reach that... So really, just deal with it. Also probably these 'pros' love 'target practice' on newbies because it's easier to bust them, rather than go for their own rank skills.  E.g, it's harder to kill a Field Marshal, than a Sergeant for example. Or perhaps they want to try out new weapons, and what better way to test it, other than on newbies?

Edited December 29, 2014 by CrimsonSaviour

[the_blue 25]

I like to play on my alt to bring back the simpler times, nowadays theres drugging, buyers, people who rage, people who dont play, people who just talk the whole time, and people who sabotage.

 

at lower ranks theres almost none of that, plus its good target practise ^_^

Edited December 29, 2014 by the_blue

[kayitsiz 621]

IRL during physical education and we play a game, when an adult starts playing, what do we do? "OMFG ur an adult not faer i quit" yeah no. Chances are, you're more like, "hmm let's see if s/he's really that good." Then if he/she is a good athlete, i'd say close to 99% of people accept the challenge. Why? It's a game.

Lots of people give up after 3-4 great losses while beginning times.

[NatchGa 665]

Ok, a lot of people above me say that if it's just "noobs vs. noobs" they will never develop a proficient amount of skill to stay competitive. However, I know a lot of people who just simply stopped playing Tanki because they thought they weren't good enough, when in reality they were just facing a lot of people who had developed a lot of skill on a higher ranking account and then made an alt account. 

 

Here are a few of those people just so you know i'm not lying:

caitlyn_lg

LavaHoppers

WHEREWOLFTOGHOST

exfinate

 

I could go on, but you get the point...

[Loackie 269]

Then what do we do? Buy this little item called the "Alternate shield" which decreases your point score by 25% and give the enemy team (everyone else in a DM) a .05% health, speed and damage boost? "great losses" druggadiers have ruined more games than my alt could ever do...

Edited December 29, 2014 by Loackie

[wild001 786]

my alt @wild004,  with m0 combo, but I am like the king of battle against army of 20 tanks,

 

most low rank dont move much or plan their attack or defense, my score usually 3 times of the 2nd person in the list, leading 10 flags ahead most time.

 

it is more fun to play than my high acc. :D

 

[thunderousrailgunner 1,934]

, they are using the same equipment like the low ranks but they just have more skill, and there is nothing wrong with having more skill.

Same Equipment So No Problem At All ..

At 1st Everyone Does Not Have Great Skills ....

You Need To Learn It By The Way ..............

[wild001 786]

Same Equipment So No Problem At All ..

At 1st Everyone Does Not Have Great Skills ....

You Need To Learn It By The Way ..............

no, or not exactly,

 

at beginning, same equipment, but remember, skills brings crystal very quickly comparing to fresh low ranks,

 

more sklls => more winning => more crystal => more micro upgrades can be done.

 

my m0 railgun damage is fully mu-ed 2 ranks after I got it.

 

and also high ranks knows where gold may fall and find the spot faster than fresh recuits.

[thunderousrailgunner 1,934]

no, or not exactly,

 

at beginning, same equipment, but remember, skills brings crystal very quickly comparing to fresh low ranks,

 

more sklls => more winning => more crystal => more micro upgrades can be done.

 

my m0 railgun damage is fully mu-ed 2 ranks after I got it.

 

and also high ranks knows where gold may fall and find the spot faster than fresh recuits.

But Fresh Recruits Need To Accept That. We Have To Learn By Our Mistakes ...

Also .. He Has Came From Recruit To A WO3 ....

Since He Came To That Rank Even Though Experiencing That Situation ..... It Will Become Quite Common ...

Like The Buyer Druggers On Old Times ... Same Which We Have To Accept Till Smart Cooldowns ...

We Have To Learn Skill By The Time Passing By ......

But I Accept Your Point But Not Fully ......  ^_^

[CrimsonSaviour 40]

my alt @wild004,  with m0 combo, but I am like the king of battle against army of 20 tanks,

 

most low rank dont move much or plan their attack or defense, my score usually 3 times of the 2nd person in the list, leading 10 flags ahead most time.

 

it is more fun to play than my high acc. :D

 

Wow, O_o How you got that score?

 

 

^ My last match on 2X funds. Is this kind of score okay for my rank, or is this weak? I'm looking to how to better my score to earn for M2s... :( How people get 4000- 5000+ score is incredible...

Edited December 30, 2014 by CrimsonSaviour