Sportmanship and Alt Accounts

[Baby_Sam 614]

I said Sportsmanship has nothing to do with alts.Never said i don't know the meaning of sportsmanship.

 

Anyways if you destroy a tank it geniunely won't make him happy.It certainly won't be fair if people were drugging or using old kits.You are complaining about having alternate accounts being bad sportsmanship, but druggers,kit buyers,buyers also do not have sportsmanship in your case.Well,tell you what? This is a tank destroying game.Here if you destroy any tank with ease or even with luck at the same rank, it won't affect the person who got destroyed at all. Anyways, druggers can easily dominate a battle with their supplies. Same for buyers. Except the fact that alts are fair. And many people use alts simply to take a break from their real accounts.Sportsmanship, in this case means nothing to them, because it is fair. And have you seen people at lower ranks ever saying that they are having problems with playing? Well,the answer is no, because they do not care about sportsmanship of others.By the way, you have also mentioned he fact that someone who is a lower rank than you invited you to a battle.You did not accept it because you thought that it would be unfair to them with your experience.But what if they invited you to their battle so they could learn some skills from you? You blatantly refused them.That, my friend, is not having sportsmanship.It is like saying " Hey that teacher is much better than his/her students! He/She should not be teaching them even if the students want to because he/she won't be fair to them!" .Ok, maybe the lower rankers do not need our help, infact, they surely do not need it to learn the tactics of the game.But if

they want to, as in your case, if you refuse them you are not being fair to them as they might believe that you feel very proud of yourself and do not want to battle them simply because you can easily beat them.You are not having sportmanship, but rather discriminating them.

I have just explained my point of view about. I agree with most of what you are saying.

 

I actually have a bigger problem with drug addicts, but unfortunately TO promotes that. That is why they give you daily garage junk gifts. An M0 drugged tank is no less capable than an M3 tank. When everyone and their dog on a team drug heavily, the game is ruined. I am telling you that I have never activated a supply so far. I got two gold boxes so far, and one time I had such low health if someone sneezed the other way I'd be destroyed, but I did not activate a healing kit. I would rather leave the freaking battle. Anyone can gobble down drugs and kill people.

 

Going back to the case where I left a DM because the other two people had seriously lower experience, I will tell you that I went to the battle, but I found it too easy. I was at a much lower rank. I might have been some form of a sergeant and they were privates or one rank higher. At their rank then, you are better off learning skills alone in a private battle. (They were free then.) I think I was being fair. Maybe I was wrong. That is still debatable. I am not claiming not being able to err, but I would not have put myself in their shoes. I did not have much experience myself to be able to teach anyone anyway. I was just noticeably ahead of them. So, I do not think your argument stands.

 

Now, let's forget about me, you, my friends who invited me to a battle. I am here promoting one thing: "Do not ruin other people's experience."

That sometimes includes alt accounts (especially for braggers), drugging, sabotage. Yesterday, someone on my team would flip me whenever he passed by me. I did not do anything to him/her/it, not even unintentionally. I might have killed someone he/she/it wanted to kill, but that is it, but he would leave the battle and just try to flip me. He once flipped me and pushed me into the self-destruct zone. That is criminal whatever it is called. I regretted not having been recording. In the future I will record and post a series on youtube "A Jerk Named ..." :)

 

Thank you.

[Baby_Sam 614]

Perhaps one should learn some 'manners' and have some 'respect' for other peoples' opinions before one tries to lecture about sportsmanship.

 

After all, what you are posting is only your opinion too, so not very 'sporting' to try to put down anyone that doesn't see things the same way as you do.

 

Just my opinion of course...

Perhaps you should have read the replies I replied to that way? They were rude, at least in my opinion. Sometimes, rude behavior and bad behavior in general makes me respond in kind. I am not proud of that, but that is who I am. Actually, in once case I was upset to the level I wanted the person to reply again so I could unload on him/her.

 

Thank you for bringing this up.

[r_priyangshu0 270]

Have a nice Day :)

[Loackie 269]

Sometimes, rude behavior and bad behavior in general makes me respond in kind I'm amazed you didn't criticize me and Athena369 who were most likely the most impolite posters on this thread. Most of everyone else was tolerably polite. Also, I'd assume you are an adult or so, so how could MrsTankBuster2 put a small compilation of your quite impolite remarks that rivals what I say?

 

I actually have a bigger problem with drug addicts, but unfortunately TO promotes that TO is a company, and drugs is a way to get money. They need money to expand their business. We have a capitalist society nowadays don't act like it isn't.

 

I am here promoting one thing: "Do not ruin other people's experience." There's different definitions of a "good time" for everybody. I like close battles/wins, and you like sportsmanship. Hmm, maybe a recruit WANTS a challenge? If I use my alt to fight them, am I "ruining their fun"? Also, being an alt does not guarantee a win, so if i lose, how can anyone tell if i am an alt?

 

Today, my son created a new account to help his friend whose account got stolen and had to start from scratch. After he ranked up to a private, I asked him not to fight recruits I really don't understand or those who seem genuine low ranks and take it easy in general, hmm idk, you could have asked you son to help others? I mean seriously if you have "knowledge and skill" might as well use it.  and he followed my instructions OFC HE DID he is your son, is your son seriously going to disrespect their father?

 

Honestly, idk why this thread is still a thing.

Edited January 8, 2015 by Loackie

[DarthvaderjonGTR 615]

Perhaps one should learn some 'manners' and have some 'respect' for other peoples' opinions before one tries to lecture about sportsmanship.

 

After all, what you are posting is only your opinion too, so not very 'sporting' to try to put down anyone that doesn't see things the same way as you do.

 

Just my opinion of course...

Best post in this whole thread

[Baby_Sam 614]

Dear Loackie,

 

TO is a company, and drugs is a way to get money. They need money to expand their business. We have a capitalist society nowadays don't act like it isn't.

 

I am glad that you realize that. That was why I did not complain about drugging except for showing my displeasure with it. I also realize that they screwed up non-PRO battles for the same reason. I also know that they do not fight sabotage because it does not threaten their bottom line at least not yet, but they fight hacking and cheating because they do.

 

There's different definitions of a "good time" for everybody. I like close battles/wins, and you like sportsmanship. Hmm, maybe a recruit WANTS a challenge? If I use my alt to fight them, am I "ruining their fun"? Also, being an alt does not guarantee a win, so if i lose, how can anyone tell if i am an alt?

 

You don't seem to realize that players can at will go to battles that have people of higher ranks. You know that, so why do you act like you don't?

 

You say, "Honestly, idk why this thread is still a thing."

 

Nobody is forcing you to come here, so how is that hurting you?

 

By the way, I did not take offense at what you and some other people said because they had substance in their post. Had your post had only impoliteness as you admitted, I would have taken offense. It also depends on my mood.

[WarMonkey51Austin 68]

Dude, (responding to your previous posts)

your posting a bunch of junk that nobody reads. The only people that read them and respond you criticize them. I dunno how well you do in real life, but you seem like someone that is fairly bad at it and does not know stuff... And your talking about how old you are, your son, blah blah blah

[Loackie 269]

Dude, (responding to your previous posts)

your posting a bunch of junk that nobody reads. The only people that read them and respond you criticize them. I dunno how well you do in real life, but you seem like someone that is fairly bad at it and does not know stuff... And your talking about how old you are, your son, blah blah blah

I'd like to add to this that alts are NOT A PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY. Also the " players can at will go to battles that have people of higher ranks" argument holds little water.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Loackie

[Baby_Sam 614]

Dude, (responding to your previous posts)

your posting a bunch of junk that nobody reads. The only people that read them and respond you criticize them. I dunno how well you do in real life, but you seem like someone that is fairly bad at it and does not know stuff... And your talking about how old you are, your son, blah blah blah

That was not a clue enough to you that it is not addressed to you?

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Its fun playing on Alt accounts. I sometimes wanna have a bit of fun in battles so i go on my WO3 account and play on that. People often ask me how i have so many points and i just say i have a Leui Gen account. They dont seem to mind and maybe try targer me a bit more. When i was up against Alt accounts when i was a noob, i didnt see it as a threat or being unfair, but as a challenge. 

Edited January 11, 2015 by r_GaIaxy2

[Baby_Sam 614]

Its fun playing on Alt accounts. I sometimes wanna have a bit of fun in battles so i go on my WO3 account and play on that. People often ask me how i have so many points and i just say i have a Leui Gen account. They dont seem to mind and maybe try targer me a bit more. When i was up against Alt accounts when i was a noob, i didnt see it as a threat or being unfair, but as a challenge. 

That is nice to know. What irritated me though that someone was posting his results dominating low ranks with his alt account. If everybody is fine, then there is no problem by definition, but when I want a challenge, I join a battle where high ranks play openly. It is a bigger challenge than that of an alt account because those would have M2 and M3 and I only (now) have M1, in addition to being experience about five times more.

[Pow12345678 12]

low ranks learn seeing skilled people play

[GeneticallyModified 15]

Let me turn this on its head:-

 

i will stop playing my low ranked tanks with the free supplies I have saved up vs others this rank when low ranked noobs stop joining high ranked battles with gear 1 or 2 whole marks below the guns and hulls being used and ruining our battles  Quid Pro Quo : end of

Edited January 12, 2015 by GeneticallyModified

[fluctuation123 3,435]

Honestly i don't know how people manage to keep alt accounts and upgrade them. I am playing for almost 1 year and you see my rank and i think i have played it much more than i should. I opened 1 alt but left it after 1 rank upgrade from recruit. There was once a poll, and if i remember correctly, most of the players have 4-5 alts! Amazing.

[Loackie 269]

^School. :p I was worried (before TO was blocked) that my keystrokes would be tracked.

[fluctuation123 3,435]

@loackie: elaborate, please!

[Loackie 269]

When keystrokes are tracked, passwords and vital information can be found even when the text is censored. the school had these low-grade devices called "chromebooks" which had "monitoring software" and I was not sure to what degree the monitoring software was.

Edited January 14, 2015 by Loackie

[fluctuation123 3,435]

Oh, i see.

[Baby_Sam 614]

Let me turn this on its head:-

 

i will stop playing my low ranked tanks with the free supplies I have saved up vs others this rank when low ranked noobs stop joining high ranked battles with gear 1 or 2 whole marks below the guns and hulls being used and ruining our battles  Quid Pro Quo : end of

You must be aware that you are not ruining the games of those who are ruining yours. This is like some hit and run guy runs over your kid, so you run over somebody's kid. How is that fair? This is the standard two wrongs don't make a right.

 

Besides, when you create a battle you can control what ranks are allowed. If you allow low ranks that can't have M2's in your M2-class battle, how can you blame them for joining?

[Loackie 269]

You must be aware that you are not ruining the games of those who are ruining yours. This is like some hit and run guy runs over your kid, so you run over somebody's kid. How is that fair? This is the standard two wrongs don't make a right.

 

Besides, when you create a battle you can control what ranks are allowed. If you allow low ranks that can't have M2's in your M2-class battle, how can you blame them for joining?

k where did the first part come from, and the second part has ABSOLUTELY NO argumentative value...100k people is quite small for a game compared to other games like LoL or DoTA where they have millions of players. TO has to compensate for this by allowing more leeway for rank limits on battles.

[Baby_Sam 614]

k where did the first part come from, and the second part has ABSOLUTELY NO argumentative value...100k people is quite small for a game compared to other games like LoL or DoTA where they have millions of players. TO has to compensate for this by allowing more leeway for rank limits on battles.

I was answering another guys argument. Do you agree with him?

[Loackie 269]

I was answering another guys argument. Do you agree with him?

Actually, it makes sense and it has a valid point. DM is dying and forced teams are terrible. Random teams < US Congress. You are literally forced to start a learning spike in the game if your team is inadequate. Learning spikes are bad even with a game like this with a minimal learning curve...

[Baby_Sam 614]

Actually, it makes sense and it has a valid point. DM is dying and forced teams are terrible. Random teams < US Congress. You are literally forced to start a learning spike in the game if your team is inadequate. Learning spikes are bad even with a game like this with a minimal learning curve...

I can't exactly follow. What makes sense? If say a warrant officer ruins your game, you think it's okay to ruin warrant officer's game, which may not be him or even friends of his?

 

I agree with you about the random teams. It is a pain, and a battle is not exactly a place where you can chat since you use the same fingers you use to play. If we had voice chat, sure. Maybe that is why they created clan wars, and people like us just try their luck every time.

[Loackie 269]

Actually, it makes sense and it has a valid point. DM is dying you can't rely on your own skills, everyone else on your team has to be good too. and forced teams are terrible. Random teams < US Congress the US Congress is infamously dysfunctional. You are literally forced to start a learning spike in the game if your team is inadequate Translation: you're not getting 10+ D/Ls with over 50 kills? you lose. To even stand a chance you either have to scold your teammates to no end or learn close to all tactics with a certain combination before you reach Staff Sergeant.. Learning spikes are bad even with a game like this with a minimal learning curve..."learning spike": when a "learning curve" becomes incredibly high, and we're NOT using the dictionary term...

Edited January 17, 2015 by Loackie