Hornet and Failgun

[simonkid 9]

I find it weird why you all have a problem with noise, like it is my favourite map because it is so easy to dominate, maybe it is because all the people that don't like it use hornjet and failgun i use hornet and isy, I would use hunter but I cannot afford M2 so anyway NOT anywayS ugh boots...

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Lol I like how you say hornet is the most versatile hull, when hunter is, anyway hunter and Titan work a ton better than hornet, I have mastered railgun I have on and off using it since 2012, I should know, only time I like it is in monny Carlo

Playing since 2012 and this is your only account? Ok...

[splitterpoint 10,986]

 

Recently I have been trying to work out why people like hornet and railgun soo much, because after researching I have found that it is probably the worst tank in the game, but it speaks differently...

 

Here's my theory

 

1. Back in the day when XP battles started they worked out that hornet rail was probably the best comb for it because no matter what level of hornet you had 2 shots from a railgun could almost always kill it, so tankers that liked XP battles would buy it for them and just us it in regular battles too, so people got good at using it and it caught on.

 

 

2. Railgun and hornet in a 100% fair battle would no doubt be the worst tank going around, but the reason it is good is because 0% of battles are 100% fair so they end up winning.

 

3. Have you ever realised that hundreds of tankers use this comb but even less ever become good at it? This is because hornet and rail is one of the worser tanks just the 5% of people that use it know how to play and normally are only dominating noobs or players not paying attention. EXPLANATION this comb is the most popular in the game Which mean about 20% of tankers use it, so that means about 9% of all the good players are using it while all other combos have about 0.9% of good players using them so hornet and rail looks good and more people get it

 

4. Have you ever realised that hornet and rail (with the exception of XP battles because everyone use 'em there) that hornet and rail only ever get in the top 12 in and battle if they use supply's, that is the only reason (and good playing.) Most of them spend more time blowing people up with mines than they do shooting them.

 

5. they use railgun completely wrong, it is a long range weapon. it is normally used it mid range areas, also another way it is used is camping. WTH? Camping with hornet? are these guys stupid or something? If ya gonna do that use flipping Titan it works 40x better, trust me I tried it.

 

6, the compromise, use hammer, it is like 3 railguns in a row, 1, 2, 3 then you wait for reload, and since you people don't use its range or special ability then then hammer is perfect, try it, and don't look at others and say hammer

Sucks, I have not found a good tanker that can use it yet so test your self.

 

Conclusion, railgun is only good. Because good players use it and they drug and only ever win against noobs. Everything else is better than it and it only works in unfair battles AND THAT IS FINAL, SO SHUT UP

 

Lol I an gonna get raged at also, tank says the best players are the ones that use rail and hornet but i will answer that later. BY THE WAY I HATE HORNET AND RAIL

 

Ugh

 

1.

hmm, I think this also has something to do with the way Railgun needs to be handled.

I love the way you can make kills with a Rail fitted on a light hull

If you mount Rail on a light hull, you can do hit and run tactics; timing is most important though, It's also one of the hardest skills to train. But if you mastered that, Railgun will be super fun to play with. 

 

2.

You're wrong.

 

3.

You're wrong on that statement aswell, it's because Railgun requires skills that don't come easy. It takes time to practise timing and accuracy; especially on a light unstable hull. 

 

4.

Mining a base can be part of defense, using supplies the right way is part of an effective playstyle too.

I also see a lot of people wandering around with Railgun, not quite knowing what they should do. Most of the time they're not in the right maps.

 

5.

I agree with this, if I fit Railgun on a heavier hull I'm more usefull as defender; getting much bigger scores just because I survive more hits. Although a lot of the time the lack of speed is an issue, I can't circle around houses when Isida's are chasing me.

This is also why I either use Wasp instead of Hornet if I want to be the agile defender.

 

6.

You're wrong, Railgun has high impact and much much better range than Hammer. You almost have to be right in front of tanks in order to make all the pellets hit your enemy. If you do that with Railgun, you're using not using it the right way.

Edited January 2, 2015 by splitterpoint

[Superlative 500]

You don 't go to that Map with a Railgun if you 're smart, or even better don 't go to that Map with any gun. :D

 

... and that 's because I 'm a noob and noobs never go to Noise. -_-

Well, once I played in Noise with my railgun and it was productive, got a GoldBox, was first, captured most of the flag...

[Athena369 265]

...and that 's why you needed to add your own (meaningfull) post to this topic...talking about noobs posting...

lord-of-the-noobs (I'm sorry if i didn't spell snipers correctly) do you have a problem with my reply? I was merely pointing out my opinion that this was an entirely worthless thread....

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

lord-of-the-noobs (I'm sorry if i didn't spell snipers correctly) do you have a problem with my reply? I was merely pointing out my opinion that this was an entirely worthless thread....

Your spelling could use some improvements, only minor ones though: you are doing pretty fine!

 

And sorry, it was nice of you to inform us that this an entirely worthless thread. Again my apologies!

 

 

p.s. glad to be your Lord too! :)

Edited January 2, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Loackie 269]

Railgun is more irritating than a serious threat on the battlefield, Why? because they shoot, panic, reverse then fall over and die. Then come back with double power on.

They do THAT at higher ranks?! Can't wait to be field marshal b/c of M3 Hunter, M3 Firebird, and all the Hornet/Failguns.

[Athena369 265]

Lol I like how you say hornet is the most versatile hull, when hunter is, anyway hunter and Titan work a ton better than hornet, I have mastered railgun I have on and off using it since 2012, I should know, only time I like it is in monny Carlo

you have mastered railgun eh? I wonder why they even have those StarLadder matches in xp format when even kids like you can "master" the railgun.

[Athena369 265]

Your spelling could use some improvements, only minor ones though: you are doing pretty fine!

 

And sorry, it was nice of you to inform us that this an entirely worthless thread. Again my apologies!

 

 

p.s. glad to be your Lord too! :)

:) apologies accepted. I have seen some of your nice resent replies on different threads ( xp/format battles etc.) keep them coming !

[kayitsiz 621]

you have mastered railgun eh? I wonder why they even have those StarLadder matches in xp format when even kids like you can "master" the railgun.

Good question  :)

 

There are a master but anyone can be better master and another man more better... 

Starladder player can be better master than player X and X can be better than Y.

 

By the way this is about special situations, too

Being good teammate can be different...

 

We can not use "master" or "skill" words actually, we can explain why player X looks better than Y with a good analysis, but we can not get certain result.

[simonkid 9]

Playing since 2012 and this is your only account? Ok...

Nar it's my second

[Loackie 269]

 

But Railgun is a good turret nontheless, when a skilled person is using it, he/she becomes nearly unstoppable and unpredictable, it's either you're really good, or utterly horrible in using it (like me).

 

                                      

This post is a bit old, but that little line is pretty much my feeling about Railgun besides it being overrated and it being half the game. (the other half is Hornet incase you will ask)

[denex12 77]

Personally, Wasp suits Railgun better in my opinion. The "peek-a-boo" tactic that so many railgun players use commonly works better with Wasp, as the turret is positioned on the back of the hull, therefore if you flip it around your tank will be about 1/2 less exposed than a Hornet/Railgun using the same tactic.

 

Another thing is that since the turret is positioned at the back of the hull, you can achieve shot angles that Hornet/Railgun players would dream of being able to do.

 

Make sure to turn your hull around with Wasp, as it suits Railgun better and it also gains stability if you are moving forward with the back of your hull.

 

*I dislike Hornet/Railgun, but I love Wasp/Railgun :lol:

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Lol I like how you say hornet is the most versatile hull, when hunter is, anyway hunter and Titan work a ton better than hornet, I have mastered railgun I have on and off using it since 2012, I should know, only time I like it is in monny Carlo

Mastered??? Go 1v1 someone woth the same equipment and rank and  post the score. Also why is it that at all ranks hornet is the prefered hull. You hardly ever see a hunter or titan user and when they are they generally are only using a small varitey of turrets. 

 

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[denex12 77]

Shadow, I agree with your statement. But under that logic, I would say for Wasp/Railgun to be more popular. With Wasp, you can dodge other Railgun shots. With Hornet, you can't.

Edited January 3, 2015 by denex12

[denex12 77]

For the record, Hornet/Railgun is probably the most overrated combonation, and Wasp/Railgun is probably the most underrated combonation.

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Shadow, I agree with your statement. But under that logic, I would say for Wasp/Railgun to be more popular. With Wasp, you can dodge other Railgun shots. With Hornet, you can't.

True but im talking about in general. Hornet is used with everything and on every map whether as others arent as commonly seen. :)

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[Loackie 269]

This makes me think Hornet needs a Weight nerf, to make it a "light hull". It's literally the answer to the universe (for a PvP game that's just disappointing) I'd pay crystals to see a Titan-Thunder in a battle. Hornet-Rail = gg wp no re b/c that's all you'll see

Edited January 3, 2015 by Loackie

[denex12 77]

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Edited January 3, 2015 by denex12

[denex12 77]

This makes me think Hornet needs a Weight nerf, to make it a "light hull". It's literally the answer to the universe (for a PvP game that's just disappointing) I'd pay crystals to see a Titan-Thunder in a battle.

Hornet flips all the time now. I mean, I flip M2 Hornet's with my M1 Railgun all the time now. I'm glad I MU'd my Impact Force on my Railgun just a little bit now ;)

 

For the record, I never understood why people like Hornet, in comparison to Wasp and Hunter.

Edited January 3, 2015 by denex12

[Loackie 269]

^M0s and M1s are horribly balanced.

[denex12 77]

^M0s and M1s are horribly balanced.

M2 Hornet users could say the same thing about M2 Wasp. Oh wait, Hornet is still "better" in their eyes. Uh, hello, I'm not getting M1 or M2 or M3 Hornet. I'm just going to MU my Wasp instead! Take that, Hornet (ab)users :)

Edited January 3, 2015 by denex12

[the_blue 25]

M2 Hornet users could say the same thing about M2 Wasp. Oh wait, Hornet is still "better" in their eyes. Uh, hello, I'm not getting M1 or M2 or M3 Hornet. I'm just going to MU my Wasp instead! Take that, Hornet (ab)users :)

its quite mean of you to say that people who use hornet abuse it, 

hornet and viking are the top hulls, if you dont like it, thats fine with me.

but if you want to go out of your way and call out hornet users, its kinda mean.

wasp and hunter are great hulls.

anyways this topic is uneeded. all it is, is saying that hornet and railgun sucks, alot of people like to use because of the skill required, the skill to anticipate the enemies move and shoot before he comes into view, to use your shots wisely to hit the enemy at the correct angle to mess him up. 

im not saying thr all other turrets suck, im saying that hornet and railgun is best in the right hands, worst in others.

[denex12 77]

its quite mean of you to say that people who use hornet abuse it, 

hornet and viking are the top hulls, if you dont like it, thats fine with me.

but if you want to go out of your way and call out hornet users, its kinda mean.

wasp and hunter are great hulls.

anyways this topic is uneeded. all it is, is saying that hornet and railgun sucks, alot of people like to use because of the skill required, the skill to anticipate the enemies move and shoot before he comes into view, to use your shots wisely to hit the enemy at the correct angle to mess him up. 

im not saying thr all other turrets suck, im saying that hornet and railgun is best in the right hands, worst in others.

I'm not calling out Hornet users. I'm simply saying that to many people use Hornet/Railgun in general, and... There's no diversity to the battlefield anymore...

[the_blue 25]

I'm not calling out Hornet users. I'm simply saying that to many people use Hornet/Railgun in general, and... There's no diversity to the battlefield anymore...

Then your in the wrong battles.