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The extra crystals come with the 50% SMP, so buyers won't be getting an advantage until the last rank.

Oh okay. Edited :) Thanks.

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This si just BS that we have to pay for a premium account this is how tanki get money and use us and XT are useless they are just for design ad a bit more powerful than the m3.

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This si just BS that we have to pay for a premium account this is how tanki get money and use us and XT are useless they are just for design ad a bit more powerful than the m3.

If you think the Premium Account is useless, then simply don't buy it :)

 

Also, FYI - XT versions of items have exactly the same parameters as M3, only a different design. They are not "a bit more powerful".

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If you think the Premium Account is useless, then simply don't buy it :)

 

Also, FYI - XT versions of items have exactly the same parameters as M3, only a different design. They are not "a bit more powerful".

Exacaly What is the point of you working so hard just for the same thing but only different design.

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You still think that the 50% crystals are an advantage?

Well, it is! That is indirectly selling of MUs, drugs, better equipment ... premium players will always be stronger! A further unbalance for who open the wallet!

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Exacaly What is the point of you working so hard just for the same thing but only different design.

Because it is unique. Many players will go great lengths just to be able to stand out in battles.

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Well, it is! That is indirectly selling of MUs, drugs, better equipment ... premium players will always be stronger! A further unbalance for who open the wallet!

Well it isn't! What you don't understand is that the 50% SMP that comes with the 50% extra crystals balances the crystals out.

 

Let's say without the Premium you spend 30 minutes in a battle, get 1000 points and earn 600 crystals. Then you go to another battle for 15 minutes, get 500 points and earn 300 crystals. In total you spent 45 minutes playing the game, got 1500 points and 900 crystals.

 

Now let's say you do the same thing with Premium. You enter a battle for 30 minutes, get 1000 score, but the 50% SMP means that instead of 1000 you get 1500 experience. And at the end of the battle the 50% crystal bonus means that instead of 600 you get 900 crystals. As a result you spent 30 minutes in the game, got 1500 xp and 900 crystals.

 

See my point? For premium accounts the 50% crystals combined with experience are nothing more than a way to save time and get to higher ranks faster. The ratio of XP gained vs. crystals earned is the same as for non-buyers, so what this means is that by the time a Premium player reaches generalissimo, they will have earned the same amount of crystals as any non-buying player of the same type. Please think about this very carefully before jumping to conclusions.

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Well it isn't! What you don't understand is that the 50% SMP that comes with the 50% extra crystals balances the crystals out.

 

Let's say without the Premium you spend 30 minutes in a battle, get 1000 points and earn 600 crystals. Then you go to another battle for 15 minutes, get 500 points and earn 300 crystals. In total you spent 45 minutes playing the game, got 1500 points and 900 crystals.

 

Now let's say you do the same thing with Premium. You enter a battle for 30 minutes, get 1000 score, but the 50% SMP means that instead of 1000 you get 1500 experience. And at the end of the battle the 50% crystal bonus means that instead of 600 you get 900 crystals. As a result you spent 30 minutes in the game, got 1500 xp and 900 crystals.

 

See my point? For premium accounts the 50% crystals combined with experience are nothing more than a way to save time and get to higher ranks faster. The ratio of XP gained vs. crystals earned is the same as for non-buyers, so what this means is that by the time a Premium player reaches generalissimo, they will have earned the same amount of crystals as any non-buying player of the same type. Please think about this very carefully before jumping to conclusions.

MAFIOS0
 
I thought and I jumped to the conclusion that what you say on faster XP with "faster" crystals sounds right.
 
I see your point. The advantage of premium then is on time and on special paint.
 
Well, I still don't like it as I think that experience and skills require time, so with premium a generation of noobs will grow, and a paint against everything is excessive IMO, but I see your point and it makes sense to me.
 
So, on this, I should say you are right. It is not like selling MUs, drugs and better equipment.
 
Thank you for explaining

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Well it isn't! What you don't understand is that the 50% SMP that comes with the 50% extra crystals balances the crystals out.

 

Let's say without the Premium you spend 30 minutes in a battle, get 1000 points and earn 600 crystals. Then you go to another battle for 15 minutes, get 500 points and earn 300 crystals. In total you spent 45 minutes playing the game, got 1500 points and 900 crystals.

 

Now let's say you do the same thing with Premium. You enter a battle for 30 minutes, get 1000 score, but the 50% SMP means that instead of 1000 you get 1500 experience. And at the end of the battle the 50% crystal bonus means that instead of 600 you get 900 crystals. As a result you spent 30 minutes in the game, got 1500 xp and 900 crystals.

 

See my point? For premium accounts the 50% crystals combined with experience are nothing more than a way to save time and get to higher ranks faster. The ratio of XP gained vs. crystals earned is the same as for non-buyers, so what this means is that by the time a Premium player reaches generalissimo, they will have earned the same amount of crystals as any non-buying player of the same type. Please think about this very carefully before jumping to conclusions.

bro the player without the pass battled for 15 more minutes, and battles don't have the same fund and depending on how well it went the amount of crystals you get are never going to be the same. and if a player has 20% protection against every turret and mines you just can't say it's fair.

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bro the player without the pass battled for 15 more minutes, and battle don't have the same fund, there for you can't say it's fair.

No, that was a theoretical comparison. Don't imagine a real battle when one stay more and one quit less ... It is a numerical comparison to explain that XP career and crystal earnings have the same ratio. Time is the difference.

 

As I said, still I don't like the premium paint and the fact that skills require time, so any "shortcut" will generate less skilled players, but there is no real crystals increase over XP in premium. For 1000 XP you will gain the same crystals as before ... you will just do that in less time. That is what I understood at least.

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 with premium a generation of noobs will grow

That is somewhat true, however it will only make a difference when a player has spent most of their Tanki "career" with Premium, which will be rare. Most players using premium will only ever buy it for a month or two and only when they reach higher ranks. It's quite rare for someone to put money into a game only a few weeks after they discovered it.

 

But in theory - yes, the more time you save by having accelerated rank growth, the less skilled you will be compared to normal players with the same amount of XP points.

 

bro the player without the pass battled for 15 more minutes, and battles don't have the same fund and depending on how well it went the amount of crystals you get are never going to be the same. and if a player has 20% protection against every turret and mines you just can't say it's fair.

Brubook already explained quite well above, but I'll out it this way: if you don't have Premium, spend an hour playing battles and earn X amount of crystals and xp, it would take you 50% less time to get the same amount of crystals and XP if you had Premium. So the difference here is not in crystals, but in time needed to be spent playing to get a certain rank or save up for an upgrade.

 

Also, the paint is a mere 15%, which is rarely an advantage at high ranks.

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Will there definetly be a one day free premium accounts or no? i was told in the test server by a mod they would not have a one day free premium account. this matters alot to me because i dont want to pay for the premium account, but i want the wasp xt so i thought i would just get it then.

Is this true or not that we will get a free day?

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Will there definetly be a one day free premium accounts or no? i was told in the test server by a mod they would not have a one day free premium account. this matters alot to me because i dont want to pay for the premium account, but i want the wasp xt so i thought i would just get it then.

Is this true or not that we will get a free day?

YES 

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Prepare TankiOnline, and see how people will get OP equipment way faster, at lower ranks...

Buyer noobs with OP equipment for their rank will be able to win a game from skilled players with UP equipment...

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We get one day to try it. If you aren't buying it for real make the most of that free day and get as much as you can. Still bad idea though

And by "making most of that day" it means buying all the XT items, because as far as I know - you will be able to buy them on that day and they will stay in your garage forever  :ph34r:

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Prepare TankiOnline, and see how people will get OP equipment way faster, at lower ranks...

Buyer noobs with OP equipment for their rank will be able to win a game from skilled players with UP equipment...

Meh, The slaughter already started even without XT & PA with the introduction of lower rank kits.

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I swear I have already posted this but I can't find it.

 

My idea is simple:

 

Allow premium account owners to sell items

 

This is technically not against the rules because it is to do with a new feature, soo you can't legally close it. (Well you can but...)

 

And if you ARE going to close it... Leave it open for 3 DAYS!

 

Do you get payed for closing topics?

 

What difference does it make to leave them open or closed? They will disappear either way...

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