[F&F] Fight & Flight

[cube3e 1,973]

Finally pinned. ^-^

Another milestone achieved and 1 step closer... :D

Edited December 22, 2016 by cube3e

[cube3e 1,973]

[You.Have.to.die 519]

Finally pinned. ^-^

Another milestone achieved and 1 step closer... :D

Yes, congratulations on all of your hard work :)

[darrrex 836]

Yes, congratulations on all of your hard work :)

Thanks :)

[PassVilan4900_Lv 13]

Why are you using m0 and m1 equipment for the jumper in every video? I know it makes the trick look easier, but actually it takes less skill to do it..

Kinda disappointed in you :unsure:

[cube3e 1,973]

Why are you using m0 and m1 equipment for the jumper in every video?

I know it makes the trick look easier, but actually it takes less skill to do it..

Kinda disappointed in you :unsure:

 

It's M2 and M3 equipment. Edited December 23, 2016 by cube3e

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Why are you using m0 and m1 equipment for the jumper in every video? I know it makes the trick look easier, but actually it takes less skill to do it..

Kinda disappointed in you :unsure:

Lighter equipment - easier tricks. And all their M0/M1/M2 equipment is fully MUed. At least, most of them...

[PassVilan4900_Lv 13]

It's M2 and M3 equipment.

Well, but the weight stays the same as in the original modification, even if i MU m0 was to "m1" and join parkour map, it will still be with m0 wasps weight, which really makes it easier to parkour, i think you're more professional to use better modification light hulls.. not those m0/m1 weight hulls for parkour, it would really improve your skill

In your last video - Bridges, i only saw 1 trick with m3 wasp, others were with m1 wasp or m0 hornet (And m3 viking) :unsure:

Expected more from you, real professionals can lift m3's up in the air, same as you lift m0/m1 hulls with the same amount of equipment -_- :unsure:

 

Almost all screenshots, where you used m0/m1

 

 

[cube3e 1,973]

We may use M1 Wasps as jumpers sometimes but we still make sure to keep the amount of helpers necessary to the very minimum. We do take feedback into consideration though and will try to improve it for next time if we think it should be.

Edited December 23, 2016 by cube3e

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Well, but the weight stays the same as in the original modification, even if i MU m0 was to "m1" and join parkour map, it will still be with m0 wasps weight, which really makes it easier to parkour, i think you're more professional to use better modification light hulls.. not those m0/m1 weight hulls for parkour, it would really improve your skill

In your last video - Bridges, i only saw 1 trick with m3 wasp, others were with m1 wasp or m0 hornet (And m3 viking) :unsure:

Expected more from you, real professionals can lift m3's up in the air, same as you lift m0/m1 hulls with the same amount of equipment -_- :unsure:

 

Almost all screenshots, where you used m0/m1

 

 

Dude, not even TFP uses M3 equip all the time... Also, even SwiftSmoky, probably the greatest parkourist of all time besides I_NuB_I and Nikk, uses M1/M2. It doesn't damage their rep at all...

[PassVilan4900_Lv 13]

Dude, not even TFP uses M3 equip all the time... Also, even SwiftSmoky, probably the greatest parkourist of all time besides I_NuB_I and Nikk, uses M1/M2. It doesn't damage their rep at all...

I clearly understand, i'm not trying to cause any kinds of provocation, just saying - If you actualy want to improve, you should start using  m3 jumpers, not m0/m1 in almost whole video, except 1 trick.. It's kinda sad that a parkour club with low modification light weight jumpers gets so far in comunity, while other clubs work their heads off and don't get recognised (No offence, but it's truth) :unsure:

By folowing forum daily and looking what's happening in parkour club section, i see many things, but sadly, some of them aren't as quite good as supposed

-p.s. And i'm trying to say this nicely, not like some FF people attacked our well known EN community parkour club - TFP

 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2016 by PassVilan4900_Lv

[GeeVuh 1,647]

And i'm trying to say this nicely, not like some FF people attacked our well known EN community parkour club - TFP

Don't mention that.

[cube3e 1,973]

"Sometimes" as in just 1 video out of 6. Also, just because we showed each trick twice (a short peice then a long peice) doesn't mean you need to take 2 screenshots of each trick with an M1 jumper.

And i'm trying to say this nicely, not like some FF people attacked our well known EN community parkour club - TFP

 

We did not "attack" TFP before one of their members had misunderstood the situaton and had "attacked" us. Yes, we may have gone a little overboard without our conterattack but that was the past. You seem to be very protective of TFP. The word "our" suggests you are from TFP, considering your low rank, you're most likely an alt.

It's kinda sad that a parkour club with low modification light weight jumpers gets so far in comunity, while other clubs work their heads off and don't get recognised (No offence, but it's truth)

You have no idea how hard we work and how hard we have worked, I usually tend to be quite humble but this time I have no problem in saying that we deserved this. If you think it's so easy, try doing these tricks yourself, you could use an M0 Wasp for all I care. Edited December 23, 2016 by cube3e

[Earth 1,091]

Sometimes as in just 1 video out of 6. Also, just because we showed each trick twice (a short peice then a long peice) doesn't mean you need to take 2 screenshots of each trick with an M1 jumper.

We did not "attack" TFP before one of their members had misunderstood the situaton and had "attacked" us. Yes, we may have gone a little overboard without our conterattack but that was the past. You seem to be very protective of TFP. The word "our" suggests you are from TFP.

You have no idea how hard we work and how hard we have worked, I usually tend to be quite humble but this time I have no problem in saying that we deserved this. If you think it's so easy, try doing these tricks yourself, you could use an M0 Wasp for all I care.

Waw.. some people got no chill.. I hope you work this out the easy way ;) :mellow:

Edited December 23, 2016 by Earth

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

Calm down guys, let me explain the situation.

 

The tricks we do with M1 jumper are made with minimal amount of help from other players - which means everyone have to do everything perfectly just to have barely enough power to get this Wasp M1 onto the house. when we use Hornet M0 is only for elevators simply to make them look better by making the jumper move faster. We can use a heavier hull, or even a mammoth with more players shooting, but it doesn't show skill in any way.

 

In fact, it is easier to get a mammoth on top of a skyscraper than a light hull, because light hulls move faster and need to shoot themselves towards the skyscraper just in time while twisting fast in the air and sometimes barely being able to see where they shoot. While heavy hulls rotate much slower in the air and have a lot of time to shoot while slowly floating up next to the skyscraper.

 

Also, don't forget low modifications have their own disadvantages - speed matters a lot in parkour, and Wasp M1 got a lot less speed compared to M4.

 

About your comparison to TFP, I can easily find a bunch of screenshots witnessing they use way more power than what is needed to succeed in the trick. They have sometimes one Railgun missing a shot at the jumper and yet he flies over most of the house and lands on the far side. While using an M3 jumper, they also use an overrated amount of players shooting him which makes it much easier than doing the same trick with Wasp M1 and just the minimal amount of players shooting him to just barely get him to the edge of the house. Their tricks look great this way, they get a big jump with an M3 jumper and no one ever thinks about how they do it and how difficult these tricks really are. (not saying everything they do is easy tricks, don't judge only by their overrared amount of helpers in some tricks, some tricks can be hard for most players to pull off even with extra power)

 

Shortly, using a lighter jumper makes him fly further with the same amount of players shooting, but what makes the tricks harder is not the weight of your jumper but how much power you get from the helpers in that trick compared to the absolute minimum required to complete the trick. And we keep our "helpers power" as close as possible to this absolute minimum, except for rare cases where we add more power to make the trick look better. And this combined with our hard work of keeping the upload rate of a video every 2-3 weeks without reducing video quality, and creativity - with a few tricks that are new to parkour history in every video, makes us very well deserve what we get.

Edited December 23, 2016 by SwiftSmoky

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

TFP kings k.

Didn't say they aren't o: don't interpret what I said as an attack on TFP, it is just an explanation of why PassVilan's comparison between F&F and TFP was wrong, I just explained the details he missed, without trying to flame anyone...

[gabriele02 3,813]

k.

[Marekos1111 3,091]

I am in this CLUB 

[SUP3R_ST4R 1,205]

TFP kings k.

TFP kings, But that doesn't mean FnF aren't kings)

 

#Peace

 

 

 

I personally love FnF But I don't hate TFP.  

 

You can't choose Who is #1 with one tournment... And yea I will Agree that TFP is #1 If they Win everything

 

 

Edited December 25, 2016 by SUP3R_ST4R

[lucky-007-lucky 231]

Hi SwiftSmoky! I know that maybe you will think that I am not good at parkour but then also can I join your group I also can do my best in future I hope you understand my feelings Thank You!

[I3.R.0 1,700]

I want to join the club, but how can I know if applications are ON or OFF

[cube3e 1,973]

Applications are closed, when open it will say on the first page of this topic and will most likely be posted here too.

[Lewis.Hamilton 1,110]

Ok

[I.Hax.I 128]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=345466&view=getnewpost

Please check and Participate in it.

[cube3e 1,973]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=345466&view=getnewpost

Please check and Participate in it.

SwiftSmoky had already made such a topic but had it closed down due to the lack of clubs participating.