Can't stop, Won't stop

[dilsharox 2,395]

people who treat people differently by rank have problems, they have been taught wrong, rank doesn't matter, some people are better than others, some have played longer, some have more free time, and of course there's the difference of age, but we're all people, and we all should be respected and respect others, I talk to everyone the same, whether they are low or high, for me everyone is the same, and I accept friend requests from everyone

"we should give respect to earn respect"

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

Oh man. I think this was why, a long time ago, Tanki Online chose NOT to have an Ideas/Suggestion section on the forums.

Instead, all ideas went to a whole entirely different website. I was one of those guys who argued that the Ideas/Suggestions forums should be located here in the forums where everybody can have an easier time accessing it, but then I realized that there are those who can't take criticism at all.

 

It's known that even though a majority may agree on something, it may be wrong. Somehow, a whole crowd of people may think that 1+1 = 3, when it equals 2, I get it. Though I think you also miss out on another way of looking at things. These ideas/suggestions people input should not be narrow-minded and selfish, or coming from just ONE point of view. These ideas suggested are presumably changes to the game (Tanki Online). In doing so, it will affect everybody. You alone do not make up 100% of the community, nor a majority. The game does not revolve around you, sorry. So when many people dislike your idea, and attack it, I think you should not overreact, something you tend to do frequently. Furthermore, you also attack with insults, sometimes derailing whole threads even though the person you replied to had a genuine interest in holding a valid conversation. But anyways, if many people dislike your idea, you should take a look at why others don't like your idea, and work on improving it so that both you, and the rest of the community likes it. Or in other words, a compromise. When you try to force something like that, saying that it HAS to be a certain way, or when you present restrictions in the game that are so extreme, you will meet equally radical and extreme replies.

 

Same thing applies to your other idea, about not letting tanks get on top of each other because of when you used Mammoth, saboteurs tried to "bother" you. The basic idea of teamwork is top priority, and that those people should not be doing that is universally accepted. However, the idea that you chose to go with to stop that problem is what people disagree with.

 

And I really do suppose you re-read your posts before posting them. You also have a problem with attacking others indirectly, and directly. In early stages, it is mostly indirectly, such as calling people who agree with your ideas smart, etc., and everybody else the opposite. And then when they respond with hostility against your posts that insulted them first, you act like you never insulted anybody. This is something I think you should work on if you want to be respected. You must respect others as well.

I knew you would come at some point, you're a fine example, you talk a lot, and try to make yourself come of as super smart, and everyone else stupid, I know exactly what I say, those who want to understand good, those who don't understand and want to talk in private, message me privately, and we can discuss in a calm and friendly manner, and the rest, you should understand that my topics are made to try and make this game a better place, it does not matter if tanki take my ideas into consideration, or maybe takes part, my final aim is that they do something about those people who try to ruin this game, how they do it is not important to me, I'm not a developer, nor designer, nor manager, and whatever else, I'm just trying to get a message across to tanki, that they should do something about the game ruiners

[Longcat970 119]

Oh man. I think this was why, a long time ago, Tanki Online chose NOT to have an Ideas/Suggestion section on the forums.

Instead, all ideas went to a whole entirely different website. I was one of those guys who argued that the Ideas/Suggestions forums should be located here in the forums where everybody can have an easier time accessing it, but then I realized that there are those who can't take criticism at all.

It's a pretty clever idea for TO to relocate I&S to a separate website IMO. If it were here in the forums, it would cause a lot of discord amongst the community (and thereby increasing "community toxicity", which is a really, really bad thing). By adding a feedback website you can post on anonymously, they would be able to sort out the stigma of posting an idea, whilst having a better method of sorting out the suggestions.

 

 

It's known that even though a majority may agree on something, it may be wrong. Somehow, a whole crowd of people may think that 1+1 = 3, when it equals 2, I get it.

Though an entire community might be wrong in the end, the learning process would be much more effective than if only a few individuals were wrong. For example, Vulcan. People suggested that it be nerfed, and now look at what they say now about the turret. At least, the idea is generally accepted by the community that they went a little overboard with complaining. If Vulcan stayed where it's at while only a minority demanded a nerf, the reception would be worse if it did get weakened. The point I'm trying to get across is that we let the community do it's own thing, good or bad. It will lead itself.

 

A side note also: Evolution also works partly like this; an entire species adapting is more beneficial to their survival than if a few organisms mutated, hm?

 

Edited February 19, 2015 by Longcat970

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Work less on insulting, and more on discussing. :)

It's time to respect people, TimeToPlayTheGame_2.

 

Your intent is good. You TRY to make this game a better place. You just need to work on what you do to "try."

 

So basically, you're just trying to get across the point that Devs should do something about Saboteurs and Mults.

To the point where you're just throwing out ideas that are pretty unfair and very irrational. And then sticking by them to the end.

 

See? It's universally accepted. NOBODY likes saboteurs and mults. We all want them gone. Though how, is the big question. Not so simple i'm afraid.

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

Work less on insulting, and more on discussing. :)

It's time to respect people, TimeToPlayTheGame_2.

 

Your intent is good. You TRY to make this game a better place. You just need to work on what you do to "try."

 

So basically, you're just trying to get across the point that Devs should do something about Saboteurs and Mults.

To the point where you're just throwing out ideas that are pretty unfair and very irrational. And then sticking by them to the end.

 

See? It's universally accepted. NOBODY likes saboteurs and mults. We all want them gone. Though how, is the big question. Not so simple i'm afraid.

This is ridiculous, you talk to me about insult, I get attacked, just for making a topic, and as I said in the past, I'm a strong character, so I won't back down, but people who are weaker, more fragile couldn't handle this, so they just keep quiet, and go through life never saying what they think, and this is wrong, and this is why I made this topic, I want everyone to speak up, all those people that send me friend requests when I speak about something here or on the lobby, those people send me friend requests because they agree but are too scared to say it, I'm their voice, and their strength, and one day they will have the courage to speak up Edited February 19, 2015 by Timetoplaythegame_2

[D.a.v.i.d 29]

:huh: OK?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

I don't think you read my posts, correct?

 

If your answer is Yes, then I think you need to re-read, or would you like me to quote out specific things?

If your answer is No, then the fault is that of yours, not mine. The issue is you, not me.

 

You're going in circles, again, claiming that you got "attacked."

Reflect on the question of "Why."

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

:huh: OK?

Are you asking me if it's ok ?, If you agree say you agree, if you don't say you don't, typing ok with a question mark, doesn't mean much

[M4D_GENiUS 266]

Please, Keep calm in this topic.

[D.a.v.i.d 29]

well, i did not even read your essay i was just saying OK

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

well, i did not even read your essay i was just saying OK

If you didn't read why make a comment, doing this is wrong, you should comment after reading and understanding what you read, because if you comment without knowing what you're actually comment on, it could confuse people, also change the direction of the whole topic

[D.a.v.i.d 29]

 i'm not trying to argue, although this sounds like a personal issue :P

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

i'm not trying to argue, although this sounds like a personal issue :P

it's not a personal issue, it's for everyone, I care about others

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Timetoplaythegame_2: "If you didn't read why make a comment, doing this is wrong, you should comment after reading and understanding what you read, because if you comment without knowing what you're actually comment on, it could confuse people, also change the direction of the whole topic "

 

 

Good! Reading and understanding is very important.

Edited February 19, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

My topics may look bad, but people who have their own mind understand them, and take good things from them, obviously there's people who have no mind of their own and just want to upset people, and this is why I made this topic, I don't care what people think of me, I will keep going, for myself, and for all those people who are scared, I will be their strength, they will take energy from me, and become stronger people

Yes, and I will say it again, people have to think with their own mind, and not follow the crowd, someone above, just said that he commented but didn't even read, and this is what other people do too

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

That person was YOU. :P

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

That person was YOU. :P

Like I said, you talk a lot to make yourself look smart, bye

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

And you still have not replied with anything reasonable to my first post. Of course I look smart. YOU are making ME look smart. :(

You go around in circles, complaining how you get attacked, not even reading my post.

 

Or maybe you did, but couldn't understand it. Just tell me. I can help you with understanding it if you need it. ;)

 

You cannot even man up to your own flaws. It's time for YOU to respect others.

Want to start progressing somewhere? Give a proper reply to my first post. It includes a lot in there. You not wanting to face it, well also, think Why? ;)

 

Also, this is what you also have PM'd me before. Talk about respect, right? :lol:

Edited February 19, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

And you still have not replied with anything reasonable to my first post.

You go around in circles, complaining how you get attacked, not even reading my post.

 

Or maybe you did, but couldn't understand it. Just tell me. I can help you with understanding it if you need it. ;)

 

You cannot even man up to your own flaws. It's time for YOU to respect others.

Want to start progressing somewhere? Give a proper reply to my first post. It includes a lot in there. You not wanting to face it, well also, think Why? ;)

 

Also, this is what you also have PM'd me before. Talk about respect, right? :lol:

Yes you will get what you deserve, I said it there and I will say it here, you can all try and switch things to try make me look bad, but I know the truth, and those who know me know the truth, what everyone else chooses to believe is not my problem Edited February 19, 2015 by Timetoplaythegame_2

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

So you're saying everything you know, and thus say, is the "truth?" And everybody else just knows lies.

You don't see any problem with saying that? You don't see how that is insulting, hmm?

 

Respect? There is none there.

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

So you're saying everything you know, and thus say, is the "truth?" And everybody else just knows lies.

You don't see any problem with saying that? You don't see how that is insulting, hmm?

 

Respect? There is none there.

I won't bother replying anymore, I will talk only to those who have confidence issues, anyone who has any problem and wants to talk to me about things related to this topic, please send me a private message

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

It's great that you try and boost other people's confidence. However, again, it's important on how you do it.

Being narrow-minded, and choosing to be ignorant to the end however, is not something good. You are not a good representation of what you say you are.

 

How about instead, you give them helpful nudges bit by bit, so that they feel comfortable to talk about their own opinions with other forum users on their own?

And then we can hold helpful discussions that actually hold progress.

 

They don't need someone spamming the forums who is not willing to respect and listen to others.

 

As they say, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Edited February 19, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

It's great that you try and boost other people's confidence. However, again, it's important on how you do it.

Being narrow-minded, and choosing to be ignorant to the end however, is not something good. You are not a good representation of what you say you are.

 

How about instead, you give them helpful nudges bit by bit, so that they feel comfortable to talk about their own opinions with other forum users on their own?

And then we can hold helpful discussions that actually hold progress.

 

They don't need someone spamming the forums who is not willing to respect and listen to others.

 

As they say, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

I told, the conversation between us is finished, if you want to add other things related to the topic, that is fine, anything else, I don't want to know

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

I actually did send you a PM for us to discuss.

Now, I am wondering if you were being serious about discussing on PM, or was it just a window for you to escape? :P

Still waiting for a reply.

 

But if you're finished, then OK.

Edited February 19, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Timetoplaythegame_2 24]

I actually did send you a PM for us to discuss.

Now, I am wondering if you were being serious about discussing on PM, or was it just a window for you to escape? :P

Still waiting for a reply.

 

But if you're finished, then OK.

I don't need an escape, if I want to talk I talk, if I don't I don't, even if I were to no reply anymore, it doesn't mean that I feel beat, or don't know what to say, but it's because I choose not to talk anymore, our conversation is finished, so no need to answer in private, and since you have to screenshot and post our private conversation, there's no point talking in private message