Reduce power of garage supplies

[105tangr 4]

I'm going to quit tanki if this doesent change

 

 

WO3 uses railgun m1 and hornet m1 uses double power and armor its a m2 hornet and m2 rail

other tankers have NO advantage against these peoples you have a WO3 having equipment that nobody else has

drugs just make everything harder not easier they were added because people were having a hard time

so they make it easier for the first 2 seconds then boom theres a breakout of the whole community imagine that more than 2000000 people dfrugging so its basically a ping pong, 500000000 VS 200 battle 20 is the fair player 50000000 is the drugger smuggler  the druggers have m3 rail m3 hornet using triple drugs so they have m4 and thats versus about 200 players who have m3 hornet m3 rail and they don't use any drugs at all

they lose so bad they might quit. but maybe only 100 percent quits and the druggets increase by 2000000 so they have 7000000 so the fair players have a even bigger disadvantage so they BUY CRYSTALS with DCC (Double Crystal Card) but they invest about 500000USD in 50000 drugs so t hey win but 500000 drugs VS 2000000000000000 drugs almost is impossible to defeat so they invest 500000000 USD but get nothing so they buy more but this time no DCC so then tanki get money players get angry, Tanki is just wasting our money  so they get business also if players have yto buy crystals to get drugs then they start becoming a drugger them selfs so the drugger smugglers are just increasing while fair players decrease and become druggers so its really unfair so lets get the facts.

 

 

1 the druggers VS players 

2 the druggers win by a million points

3 the player buy a bunch of drugs using money 

4 they waste money 

5 they join drugger side

6 drugger increase players decrease

7 tanki becomes rich

8 they get more money everyday

9 the players become bankrupt

10 the end up having no money because of tanki

 

so the out come of one double damage is losing all your money and quitting tanki

 

if tanki wants more money they should remove the drugs and get the players back add something good but not make it anything like a drug so they can make it more fair     

 

 

                    this is just SAD

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

 

 

WO3 uses railgun m1 and hornet m1 uses double power and armor its a m2 hornet and m2 rail

 

More like an m1 turns into an m4 when on double damage. Heck an MO turns into an M3+.   What the heck was tanki thinking by having supplies double the parameters? WOW I never actually looked at that until now.

[HillBillyJim 75]

Wow, just looked that up now. Double parameters jacks a plain m0 railgun up past M2 stage. That's not factoring in microupgrades (another boneheaded idea).

 

 

Totally fair though :rolleyes:

[ChineseTankMan 98]

helps against hackers and sabateurs
but when the cheaters high at least a large minority of your team that they've sabotaged, even with great skill and drugging you will still lose to them, especially when they include their fake lags hack

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

...

And you are exactly the type of player Tanki wants and the reason they will never do anything about cheaters, mults, saboteurs. The profit they make off of all the supplies you purchase as you fight them is what they want. Hazel-Rah has basically admitted that the selling of supplies is one of their biggest money makers.

 

Why would they ever want to fix problems that makes them money? 

 

Whether you are fighting druggers or cheaters, Tanki wins. :( Well my solution is to never purchase anything from Tanki again. Nearly $1000 CAD is more then enough for those greedy .......

[ChineseTankMan 98]

And you are exactly the type of player Tanki wants and the reason they will never do anything about cheaters, mults, saboteurs. The profit they make off of all the supplies you purchase as you fight them is what they want. Hazel-Rah has basically admitted that the selling of supplies is one of their biggest money makers.

 

Why would they ever want to fix problems that makes them money? 

 

Whether you are fighting druggers or cheaters, Tanki wins. :( Well my solution is to never purchase anything from Tanki again. Nearly $1000 CAD is more then enough for those greedy .......

 

 

Actually, you are the type of tanker that Tanki wants.

Because you don't get on their case to completely prevent all hacking (including Artificial Lagging) and sabotaging.

This way they can continue to get an infiltration of cheaters helping to make them (in)famous...

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Here are a few more things to think about.

• When some players reach Generalissimo they have nothing left to do, unless they can get into Star Ladder. They get bored with nothing left to accomplish and decide to start destroying everyone's game play for fun.
• There are a large number of players who have a belief that they need to win no matter what the cost and they have some of the largest disposable incomes in the world. Money in not an issue, they only care that they always finish first. We will never fight that power.
• Ever wonder if Tanki pays players to become druggers just to force others to use their supplies, which they of course will need to replace? We always assume that these druggers are buyers but maybe Tanki recruits certain players to destroy the game on purpose just to increase sales and profit.
• Look real careful at all of the latest updates every one has been designed to increase Tanki profits.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

I have often wondered if there are paid players who are employed by Tanki for the sole purpose of shilling - similar to how someone running an auction hires people to bid the price up to earn more money.

 

There's one Lt. Colonel named ubilogy who loves to drug then taunts "aaaaa - easy!" all the time. He uses ricochet and DD all the time while parked on the roof of the building near red base in Rio. Then the schmuck complains about the game being boring.

 

The natural reaction of most people would probably be to get angry and start drugging back. I just leave such battles, or, just wait it out until the problem children leave. If I can I take the route to blue base, then, take the ramp up and sneak up behind him. Aside from camping on the roof he has no skills at all.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Actually, you are the type of tanker that Tanki wants.

Because you don't get on their case to completely prevent all hacking (including Artificial Lagging) and sabotaging.

This way they can continue to get an infiltration of cheaters helping to make them (in)famous...

Your are too funny. Clearly a kid but still funny.

• Here is my topic from way before you joined this forum. New campaign against Mults and Saboteurs.
• Here is a topic by a personal friend of mine, @AbsoluteZero we both worked together to create that idea.  Player's Moderation: Kick2
• Oh wait, here is another topic about fighting dishonest players and this one even features a little app I wrote to improve /vote. Does /vote still work?
• And here is a link to my interview in the Tanki newspaper talking about /vote. [issue 35] [interview] Is Voting still Effective?

Shall I continue or is that enough proof for you. 

[creeperskelly 1,281]

More like an m1 turns into an m4 when on double damage. Heck an MO turns into an M3+.   What the heck was tanki thinking by having supplies double the parameters? WOW I never actually looked at that until now.

One reason: the tanks cost so much and it requires so much XP to rank to the level to get one. So for the price of a few pennies (if bought in a kit) supplies give a person the equivalent of an M3 or better for up to 45 seconds. If a person gets killed the timer is reset, thus, the player can essentially fight with an M3 or better for about $1 per round (less if the crystal earnings make up for some of the supplies used).

 

Compare that to the cost of buying a fully upgraded M3 which is about $600 USD at current prices.

 

You know what is a better deal than buying supplies? The 100% score multiplier card. Even if I get blown up in the process I actually lose nothing in each battle now. I don't have to use supplies and I can rank quicker so I can get access to what I want all the time.

[Heles 9,220]

:D ty

[RustyNail 1,538]

helps against hackers and sabateurs

but when the cheaters high at least a large minority of your team that they've sabotaged, even with great skill and drugging you will still lose to them, especially when they include their fake lags hack

 

Kiddo, you 've got to accept it, your beloved drugging is another form of cheating behavior, just like hacking. Stop pulling your own leg (ours is perfectly safe) with this silly excuse.

I told you before, you act like a troll. Most of your comments offer no evidence, neither logic, just a childish point of view. Get over it, or walk away if there 's nothing else to say. We had enough of your opinions.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I have often wondered if there are paid players who are employed by Tanki for the sole purpose of shilling - similar to how someone running an auction hires people to bid the price up to earn more money.

 

There's one Lt. Colonel named ubilogy who loves to drug then taunts "aaaaa - easy!" all the time. He uses ricochet and DD all the time while parked on the roof of the building near red base in Rio. Then the schmuck complains about the game being boring.

 

The natural reaction of most people would probably be to get angry and start drugging back. I just leave such battles, or, just wait it out until the problem children leave. If I can I take the route to blue base, then, take the ramp up and sneak up behind him. Aside from camping on the roof he has no skills at all.

 

If I owned Tanki and IF I wanted to use any means to increase supplies sales, I would most certainly use a gang of my own players with dozens of drugs and a variety of combos / paints, just to raise the need for supplies.

It's the same as if one sells bullets. Letting a gang loose with many bullets, will ensure that the general need for bullets will reach the sky. Simple as that. :mellow:

[Brubook 1,161]

More like an m1 turns into an m4 when on double damage. Heck an MO turns into an M3+.   What the heck was tanki thinking by having supplies double the parameters? WOW I never actually looked at that until now.

I confirm that (with simple numbers calculation) ... but it seems that you are one of the few that realise that ... the drug increment in power is dramatic!

In fact, one of my proposals was to limit the drug power to the next M values (to be adjusted accordingly for M4)

[Brubook 1,161]

Wow! :o

And people falsely label me as paranoid. I'm shocked at the projecting/hypocrisy.

 

What part of "SHOUTING IS NOT APPRECIATED HERE (through big size fonts use)" you don't get of my previous message??

 

Politeness is a must here, whatever opinion you might have! Please respect this habit.

 

Thank you

[HillBillyJim 75]

hahaha @RustyNail- the Tanki Mafia?

 

"Alright, youse is gonna buy the drugs, or we break ya thumbs, capisce??"

[ChineseTankMan 98]

 

What part of "SHOUTING IS NOT APPRECIATED HERE (through big size fonts use)" you don't get of my previous message??

 

Politeness is a must here, whatever opinion you might have! Please respect this habit.

 

Thank you

 

 

I haven`t seen that post of yours. Please provide a link because your previous post was not directed towards me and didn`t include that statement of yours. So you may be referring to a post of yours directed towards myself and I don`t see it.

 

By the way, I was being polite. You don't know what I'm like when I'm not.

The others going after me were not being polite.

 

I wonder how I can block myself from seeing this thread since others enjoying unfairly ganging up on me (which is trolling)...

[Brubook 1,161]

I haven`t seen that post of yours. Please provide a link because your previous post was not directed towards me and didn`t include that statement of yours. So you may be referring to a post of yours directed towards myself and I don`t see it.

 

By the way, I was being polite. You don't know what I'm like when I'm not.

The others going after me were not being polite.

 

I wonder how I can block myself from seeing this thread since others enjoying unfairly ganging up on me (which is trolling)...

 

The post was directed to you. See post #2037 page 102, second line (if I am right). I am just kindly asking you that ... please. I am not an internet "professor", but it is called netiquette I guess.

 

Anyone of us can be worse ... sure I am not interested in seeing when you (or anyone else) are worse! :)

 

This thread is not "ganging up on you (trolling)", but we are just focusing on excessive drugging and excessive drugs overpower that, as title says, give an enormous unfair playing advantage.

 

Our positions are different: you want the drug power and you want it reserved to buyers (to fight cheaters/sabouteurs) while we want a significant nerf of drugs power, together with some effective limitations on their use to have a more playable game for everyone, as we see cheating more like a developers issue IMO.

 

This is why you face what you call "ganging up on you". Just different positions!

But, as you can see, I invited you here even if your position is different than mine. I did that because I was pleased to hear your ideas too, despite they are different from mine. I think you can see fairness in this behaviour of mine. On the other hand I ask you politeness and smooth discussion. Am I wrong?

 

Thank you

[RustyNail 1,538]

hahaha @RustyNail- the Tanki Mafia?

 

"Alright, youse is gonna buy the drugs, or we break ya thumbs, capisce??"

Sorry dude, I don't understand what you are saying.

Could you please rephrase so that I can understand? Thanks..

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I'm starting to wonder if certain people are deliberately trying to drive this discussion off topic.

 

 

The original focus was What can we do about druggers? but know the question is How do we get Tanki's attention? Hazel was our only connection and we all know how that turned out. B)  Now we need  to establish a better connection, one that actually want's to hear our side of things. Maybe we should form a players council or players union. As a group we may stand a better chance. I'm just thinking out load.

[HillBillyJim 75]

I would join up hahahaha

[viratno2 146]

I made this account in 2012, I had a ****ty laptop and it was only able to run browser games, I discovered Tanki and I had fun with my friends (we were noobs, but we enjoyed)

I got a new computer last year and I started playing Tanki again, I ranked from Warrant Officer 5 to Brigadier in 1 year, this game isn't fun anymore, I am not a professional player but I am good and I save crystals to buy m2 and m3 and I try to take godboxes, I know almost everything about this game... it is not fun, especially with druggers

I lost hope in 'free to play' games beause they are 'pay to win', you can be very good at these games but buyers will always be better

I love Tanki and I'd never quit it if it changed, but if nothing changes I hope players (non-buyers) stop playing and leave so developers realize they have to do something

Exactly. If people start leaving, then tanki will lose their critical mass to feed buyers and the buyers shall stop. In other words, if non buyers leave, the game is DOOMED.  :wacko:  :blink: 

(  I PROBABLY OVERDRAMATIZED THE EFFECT?

[combat1260 1]

So you are basically saying that supplies are drugs. They make you faster, they make you think that you are invincible, and they make you more violent, and mines are your turd and vomit.

:)     ;)     :P     :D     :lol:      :(      :angry:      :mellow:      :huh:      :o     B)      :rolleyes:     -_-     <_<      :wub:      :unsure:     :wacko:     :blink:      :ph34r:

[RustyNail 1,538]

So you are basically saying that supplies are drugs. They make you faster, they make you think that you are invincible, and they make you more violent, and mines are your turd and vomit.

:)     ;)     :P     :D     :lol:      :(      :angry:      :mellow:      :huh:      :o     B)      :rolleyes:     -_-     <_<      :wub:      :unsure:     :wacko:     :blink:      :ph34r:

That's a little trollish way to put it, but basically yes.

[Myrddins 3]

Well another good game ruined by the druggers who came in with 25 minutes left on the clock and proceeded to drug camp the CP and spawn camp.

 

Whats the point in playing when the druggers come in late and proceed to get the lions share of the crystals.

 

Crystal count should also be related to time in game and drug useage.

 

It feels like the Tanki developers have turned into the three wise monkeys with a tag along, 

 

1. See Nothing

2. Say Nothing

3. Hear Nothing

4. Do Nothing