Reduce power of garage supplies

[ChineseTankMan 98]

My idea is to not have a drug use limit until hacking and sabotaging are no longer possible.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I have an idea....

why don't you just set up a drug use limiter. That way the little bastards can't drug as much and we can finally get a fair match for once.

Last fair match for me: Many, many months ago.

@swede1, myself and a few others have suggested something that suits your needs. 

 

Limit the amount of supplies that can be taken into a battle. I think 3 of each per 15 mins seems to be a good number. If they really wanted to get fancy they could add a special supply box that falls a little less rarely then a gold box and re-stocks your supplies.  Supplies would still be able to be picked up and you would have your own limited supply for those must have moments. The only difference would be that you would need to smart about their use. No more mindless druggers buying the win.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

My idea is to not have a drug use limit until hacking and sabotaging are no longer possible.

Ok, enough already. You want Tanki to eliminate these dishonest players but offer no suggestions as to how. We all know these players (although that isn't the word I like to use) need to be dealt with. You are not suggesting anything new.

1. Hacking can be reduced but never eliminated. Hackers will always find away it is a fact and a problem in all games.
2. Saboteurs are also part of every game. It is something that many players have suggested ideas to combat. It can't be stopped completely but it can be reduced.  It is true that Tanki can and should do something about it but chose not too. I personally believe it is because it actually makes them money and I also believe this is the same reason they will never do anything about druggers.

[HillBillyJim 75]

The old "vote" system worked pretty well to remove MULTs and saboteurs. Only problem was when people abused it to remove lesser ranked players. Think we should bring it back, myself.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Like I said a dozen times, drugging can be reduced only by reducing the time-on-drugs-in-battle. No other way. Either limited supply of supplies per battle, or increased cooling period for every supply.

Or, reduce not drugging itself but the effect of drugging, by creating drawbacks for supplies that are used together or by reducing the supplies effectiveness when combined.

(all these ideas, produced by a variety of players, exist @page71 of this topic, not that it matters)

These solutions will more or less lessen the sales of supplies kits, therefore not going to happen, if current fiscal policy of Tanki will remain.

I accept it, I don't agree with it.

 

All the rest are small talk with no meaning. Devs, as shown by the one talking so far, are not willing to face in discussion the players that complain about drugging (among other issues) , instead they play hide and seek. What for? Obviously, the launch of Unity version.

Why are we still talking about it? I don't know. Our job is done, in vain of course. Nothing came out of it, not even a small bridge between players and Devs. 

[beaku 2,656]

All of which was made quite clear in the early stages of the topic itself. We were told that regardless of this topic, supplies would remain the way they are. I'm not sure why people still discussed fought for reopening the topic, etc. We knew the consequence.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

The old "vote" system worked pretty well to remove MULTs and saboteurs. Only problem was when people abused it to remove lesser ranked players. Think we should bring it back, myself.

Read this....Kick 2.0

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Like I said a dozen times, drugging can be reduced only by reducing the time-on-drugs-in-battle. No other way. Either limited supply of supplies per battle, or increased cooling period for every supply.

Or, reduce not drugging itself but the effect of drugging, by creating drawbacks for supplies that are used together or by reducing the supplies effectiveness when combined.

(all these ideas, produced by a variety of players, exist @page71 of this topic, not that it matters)

These solutions will more or less lessen the sales of supplies kits, therefore not going to happen, if current fiscal policy of Tanki will remain.

I accept it, I don't agree with it.

 

All the rest are small talk with no meaning. Devs, as shown by the one talking so far, are not willing to face in discussion the players that complain about drugging (among other issues) , instead they play hide and seek. What for? Obviously, the launch of Unity version.

Why are we still talking about it? I don't know. Our job is done, in vain of course. Nothing came out of it, not even a small bridge between players and Devs. 

Sadly, unless it has to do with making or saving Tanki money they are not interested. 

[Brubook 1,161]

All of which was made quite clear in the early stages of the topic itself. We were told that regardless of this topic, supplies would remain the way they are. I'm not sure why people still discussed fought for reopening the topic, etc. We knew the consequence.

The consequence is that we and devs know better that there is a problem. Maybe not now with the actual Tanki, but it has to be faced, or any "new" Tanki will be a disaster! Let's remember that in any business people keep on paying for a service or product only when they are satisfied with it!

 

Yes, very probably nothing will be done about it, but I think it is fair that everyone hear our voices.

Also, this should be a help for devs ... but their shortsight probably don't allow them to see it as it is!

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Hi guys,
As some weeks ago a player told us that RU2 is already used for supply free battles by the russian community, I have now finally found time to adapt the advertisement for it.
No need to update any links, I've changed the source of the picture ;)
 
Have fun ;)

cya, Rohr'

 

logo only

 
large version

 
and I was asked to provide a German version as well:

 

[creeperskelly 1,281]

The plural of die Flagge is die Flaggen :P

 

Nice to know - will try that out soon  :) 

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Flagge/Flaggen - yes, I left some words in English.. I thought that's ok ;)

But good to know you read it carefully and did not spot something more serious.. my orthography is pretty bad usually :P

[Brubook 1,161]

Hi guys,

As some weeks ago a player told us that RU2 is already used for supply free battles by the russian community, I have now finally found time to adapt the advertisement for it.

No need to update any links, I've changed the source of the picture ;)

 

Have fun ;)

cya, Rohr'

 

logo only

 

 

 

 

 

large version

 

 

 

 

 

and I was asked to provide a German version as well:

 

 

 

 

 

Great job Rohr!!!

 

Maybe my fault ... I still see EN3 on the large version. Did I miss something? :)

[MrsTankBuster2 141]

As you probably (won't :P) remember, I too am anti-drugging and pro good sportsmanship.

 

Alas, I do not like CTF, nor am I anywhere near the right rank - but I continue to applaud and be impressed by those who are putting in all this effort to try to hit home and find a fairer way to play. I find balanced, non-drugging games by far the most enjoyable in Tanki - win or lose.

 

Keep up the good work - I'm sure others like myself appreciate it, even if the devs don't.

[Brubook 1,161]

As you probably (won't :P) remember, I too am anti-drugging and pro good sportsmanship.

 

Alas, I do not like CTF, nor am I anywhere near the right rank - but I continue to applaud and be impressed by those who are putting in all this effort to try to hit home and find a fairer way to play. I find balanced, non-drugging games by far the most enjoyable in Tanki - win or lose.

 

Keep up the good work - I'm sure others like myself appreciate it, even if the devs don't.

Dear MrsTankBuster2

 

Of course I do remember you, I appreciated your support and still appreciate it. Thank you for being here and support this discussion ... and support fairplay and good sportmanship!

 

You are present in the "special thanks" in post #1405 page 71 in first line! http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&p=4714520

 

You are always welcome!

 

Thank you

 

B.

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Great job Rohr!!!

 

Maybe my fault ... I still see EN3 on the large version. Did I miss something? :)

the picture you see comes out of your local cache. It has the same filename.. so your PC does not know it was changed.

A reload should usually do the job.

[Brubook 1,161]

the picture you see comes out of your local cache. It has the same filename.. so your PC does not know it was changed.

A reload should usually do the job.

Right, thanks!

So I will clean cache and see the new one. Great!

Thank you

[BSG-62 512]

Great, but you should still allow people to use as many mines as they want, even though no-one uses them anyway.

[Vikingsrallentando 3,058]

From my thinking on the issue with maps, the top 30 being played more often than the others, that supply usage has played a role in shaping where and how people use their supplies for the most enjoyment. It can be quite exhilarating to drug your way back to the win in Silence, thus why people stick with it ALL THE TIME. It has also ruined maps. You can't play Highways, with supplies, without one team getting more powerful than the other, faster than you can snap your fingers. If more people would lose the drugs and play PRO battles, then there wouldn't be near as many dead maps as there are now.

 

Also, as a general note, the early battle end feature was supposed to be our savior, when we get stuck in one-sided supplyfests and just want out; It needs to be back in the game. We should also push for some kind of feature to get players out of those battles as soon as they gone.

[BSG-62 512]

From my thinking on the issue with maps, the top 30 being played more often than the others, that supply usage has played a role in shaping where and how people use their supplies for the most enjoyment. It can be quite exhilarating to drug your way back to the win in Silence, thus why people stick with it ALL THE TIME. It has also ruined maps. You can't play Highways, with supplies, without one team getting more powerful than the other, faster than you can snap your fingers. If more people would lose the drugs and play PRO battles, then there wouldn't be near as many dead maps as there are now.

 

Also, as a general note, the early battle end feature was supposed to be our savior, when we get stuck in one-sided supplyfests and just want out; It needs to be back in the game. We should also push for some kind of feature to get players out of those battles as soon as they gone.

Yeah... what did happen to the early battle end feature? It just sort of vanished.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

There were a few times when I triggered it almost right at the 2 minute mark in Rio by capping two flags back to back. I think it needs some work so that is why it was dropped.

[DestroyerZ10 299]

I have said this before and I will say it again, the only way to fix tanki's stupid drug problem is to, make normal battles drug free and all those who want to drug can buy a pro pass and enable drugs, they buy drugs already let em buy somemore why dontcha -_- I am told much too often by some drugging noob " you dont want drugs go to a pro battle" I'd be rich if I had a penny for everytime somebody has said that to me -_- and I am dead serious. and Im not the first to adress the fact that when a tankers power up runs out he/she will most likely hide/ run away untill they can equip another drug, and please dont deny this fact because on may 9th aka drug day every last fool was doing exactly that.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I mostly don't use drugs, but when I find some that are on te ground at a dropzone I do.

I hate that it's more or less drug to win, but it could be a LOT worse...

 

Pay to win for one, would ruin the game. Then there's OMGZUPERZZZOPWEAPONGAMEZZZ11!!!. Those are not tanki and will never be like this.

I feel if they removed drugs, sure people would complain, but then they would leave, with the non-druggers remaining.

And victory will be ours, my brethren.

[lazer1786 44]

I mostly don't use drugs, but when I find some that are on te ground at a dropzone I do.

I hate that it's more or less drug to win, but it could be a LOT worse...

 

Pay to win for one, would ruin the game. Then there's OMGZUPERZZZOPWEAPONGAMEZZZ11!!!. Those are not tanki and will never be like this.

I feel if they removed drugs, sure people would complain, but then they would leave, with the non-druggers remaining.

And victory will be ours, my brethren.

non-druggers big noobs ok, tanki would be much better if al those guys with no drugs leave tanki

[Brubook 1,161]

non-druggers big noobs ok, tanki would be much better if al those guys with no drugs leave tanki

I am a non-drugger and I have tons of drugs. If you post here please follow 2 common sense rules:

 

1 - Be polite

2 - Say something ... something with sense

 

Also, before saying the same nonsenses as someone else already said, read the thread, or at least the sum up. And remember that is the ones like me that make tanki playable and unfortunately the ones like you that make it unplayable!

 

Ah, if you didn't read it before, BE POLITE