Reduce power of garage supplies

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I've almost entirely retreated to the Forums.

This account is dead, I just use it as an outlet because my newer one is still too low-ranked to post here and anywhere besides the Game Violators section.

[pwhite 120]

I don't know why I even bother here. I know, a premium buyer who buys kits and got the same thing twice and does not xpbp or whatever that is called does not drug. What a shocker. I deal with it bye using hull and turret to kill them. Since I use hunter, it is easy to climb on them to mine them or just go over them completely.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

I don't know why I even bother here. I know, a premium buyer who buys kits and got the same thing twice and does not xpbp or whatever that is called does not drug. What a shocker. I deal with it bye using hull and turret to kill them. Since I use hunter, it is easy to climb on them to mine them or just go over them completely.

Boar kit took my gold box in an idle 2v2. After it survived 5 goddam shots of hammer m1.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Hammer isn't that great in terms of raw power, it's main power lies in it's ability to knock off their aim while strafing.

​Shaft M4 fully charged is significantly more powerful than it damage-wise.

With DA equipped and if he used a Repair Kit, you might as well have been throwing packing peanuts at it and yelling "BANG!".

[BSG-62 512]

I don't know if it is said, and i will not search.

I HAVE THE SOLOUTION FOR TANKI DRUGGERS!!!

 

The only way to drug in battles is to press delete. It will activate some (or all!) drugs but of course you will die in 10 secs.

 

I think it is balanced enough, what do you say?

Ummmmm.... no that is in no way balanced. Not only does that destroy using drugs for gold box, getting the flag to the point with 5 seconds left on timer, doing parkour, drug wars, protect the gold box and ruining the occasional use, in 10 seconds, what the hell can you do???? Also, the developers will never accept this.

[omrot 2,327]

Have you read the article on the new newspaper about how dumb this topic is? I just want to *****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

[BSG-62 512]

Today's drug watch: Geo_Gold_Box (or something like that)

Don't bother fighting: it will take 6 people in your team to take him/she down once.

[omrot 2,327]

You should look at sweety67 in the ratings! I think I'm scarred for life  :o  :(

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Hammer isn't that great in terms of raw power, it's main power lies in it's ability to knock off their aim while strafing.

​Shaft M4 fully charged is significantly more powerful than it damage-wise.

With DA equipped and if he used a Repair Kit, you might as well have been throwing packing peanuts at it and yelling "BANG!".

It was a no supplies battle. It was m2.5 dic at least because it had no hammer prot...

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Where did you find a no-supplies battle? We're equal (I think) in rank, so it's not like you have to search far...

Maybe I'm just not online at good times.

[deadmanrising 715]

Hammer isn't that great in terms of raw power, it's main power lies in it's ability to knock off their aim while strafing.

​Shaft M4 fully charged is significantly more powerful than it damage-wise.

With DA equipped and if he used a Repair Kit, you might as well have been throwing packing peanuts at it and yelling "BANG!".

Depends, in smaller maps hammer would still be superior because it is after all a short ranged weapon

[The-Operator219 1,929]

You should look at sweety67 in the ratings! I think I'm scarred for life  :o  :(

 

How much money did he spend? Jeez, almost entirely M3 equipment.

[deadmanrising 715]

 

After a couple of days I logged in to play and what do I find... same old drugging ****.

Playing mood vaporising in minutes, feeling unwelcomed and so I will lessen even more my presence in Tanki.

 

They want their buying druggers, they will have the buying druggers and from me they will have negative reputation for free.

 

(today's archi-drugger: H.A.T.R.E.D - wise choice of name - average drugs per minute:190!)

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/H.A.T.R.E.D/

 

poor b*stard uses 3,16 supplies per minute... average... OMG. Definitely knows how to party.

 

 

Also, he's got the proper company... in the next round

 

 

What am I doing between those brats? ... or at all in this sh*tty game?

 

I doubt if I will be here during the new year. Oh, wait.... I forgot... there are some folks that would be happy to get rid of me.. No need to make their wish come true. Not yet. ;)

 

I don't think the problem lies entirely with the drugs themselves, i think the problem lies in the game environment. In larger maps; particularly CTF people are most likely to drug because it's impossible to capture a flag without the use of any supplies especially if the entire team decides to just guard the flag instead of playing

 

One issue is the amount of supplies that fall on the battlefield, before smart cooldowns, there weren't as much supplies falling as there are now, this needs to be adjusted back to its original form to prevent players from constantly using all 3 supplies at once.

 

Another problem is boredom, it's too lame to just play it safe and care about the feelings of others "i can afford thousands of drugs and it's too boring trying to kill people and capture flags without drugging, might as well". I blame this attitude on the rebalances also, because tanki are trying to keep the stats as "close and fair" as possible for both turrets and tanks, but this is having the inverse effect, especially when it comes to higher ranks. "If my turret and hull that i spent lots of crystals on can effectively do what i want it to do i don't have to drug that often". Increasing the stats that m4 turrets/hulls do might fix this problem and widen the "gap" that i'm referring to, giving lighter hulls more speed might help be-ridden this effect.

 

Another thing is that some players are reluctant to use any supplies at all, every player needs to use a supply at some point in order to keep the flow of the game vibrant, im not saying they need to drug too, but i was recently vs a drugging team and because we adapted to this strategy we managed to stop them completely

 

Gameplay today doesn't seem as vibrant as it should be, supplies are suppose to be a bonus, now they seem like a necessity, i personally don't want to use them, but the environment im in constantly forces me to use them, im sure the developers know that this is not how gameplay should be

 

If you want to encourage users to join pro battles, the passes need to be cheaper, 5000 crystals doesn't work for many people and im not going to explain why, besides why should i lose crystals to play battles that i actually enjoy? How many of those battles are within the ranks i want to play with?

 

If it costs 1000-2000 crystals, im sure more people will buy them, but until then, it only appeals to a 'certain' group of people

 

Therefore, i think the following needs to be done

 

1. Make pro battle passes cheaper

2. Give m4 turrets/hulls higher stats

3. Give more speed to lighter hulls (Particularly hunter)

4. Reduce the amount of falling supplies in battles

5. Reformat the stats of turrets/hulls better

6. Possibly reduce the damage of double damage

[bossman161 276]

ArgentHellion (#201): When the enemy isn't drugged, the matches never get dull, because if you can't confront them directly, you can always develop a convenient strategy to flank them, and when that evantually fails, you develop another one. Flanking a drugged player DOESN'T work, because two-thirds down the Isida drain, he just pumps the repair and practically says "up yours with your skill, I've got your skill right here... boom... go play with the other  freebie peasants."   But probably the most annoying things are the drugged out sniper-a-thons, and that's definitely the thing that's killing this game the most. Boosted Shaft guarantees an instant kill on any hull, except if it's a drugged Mammoth*   maybe, so it's practically an InstaGib match replica from Unreal Tournament, with drugged players being the InstaGibbers, and everybody else just being cannon fodder...

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*= I have to admit as a  M2 Shafter I can't ever get my fill of double power. It's kind of satisfying for when that "cunning" Firebird tries to outflank me but only winds up finding him/herself back at the spawn because he/she underestimated my skills. Also when that drugging M2 Mammoth-Twin's Double Armor vanishes its kind of poetic for me to take revenge on him/her by sniping with my fully charged and drugged M2 Shaft and savoring the sight of him/her exploding in the sights of my optical scope. And I then say ,"Good riddance pest."

 

And I am still slightly ticked off about the laser sight added to Shaft! But oh well. At least I learn how to move around from camping spot to camping spot.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Do you know guys what I 've been thinking during the last days? Trying to find a reasonable explanation for the druggers' attitude, I thought that maybe after a long career in FPS games (player vs Environment) many players do not treat other players as living beings with needs, emotions, or rights, but as bots that have to be killed.

So, they develop in Tanki the same behavior as that when they want to drive some RL anxiety away playing a fps or a shoot 'em up game. Because a drugging player is basically the same with an FPS player having found a good boost for the game.

 

I know this has no direct relation to drugging, but maybe there is an indirect one.

[Brubook 1,161]

I think it is more directly related to drugs as we could imagine.

Drugs are more a feeling than a material need to gain xp or crystals.

I think drugs are related with the real persons behind the tank, his/her unsatisfactions, frustrations, need of revenge from something, need to be accepted and appreciated, need to hide his/her lacks.

Sometimes you see druggers drugging like hell on mathematically lost battles. In those cases the reason is surely not the victory of the crystals, it is a psychological need!

Of course not every drugger drug for these reasons, but I think a great majority of them.

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

lol what a topic if you guys want to play with out supplies  go buy a pro pass and make battle with out supplies  And you know what supplies a tournament was held in sltv the name was hard style some thing like this  (not 3 style) that tournament is finished now in that tournament every thing was on u can drug  how much u want that was the first drugging tournament held in sltv  so most of clans take part in that and the winner got acid paint and many crystals

[The-Operator219 1,929]

lol what a topic if you guys want to play with out supplies  go buy a pro pass and make battle with out supplies  And you know what supplies a tournament was held in sltv the name was hard style some thing like this  (not 3 style) that tournament is finished now in that tournament every thing was on u can drug  how much u want that was the first drugging tournament held in sltv  so most of clans take part in that and the winner got acid paint and many crystals

I'll let the others explain it too you.

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

I'll let the others explain it too you.

say directly what u want to say

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Okay...

One, no, we do not pay to enjoy ourselves.

If you want more information go to previous pages and find other misguided people suggesting the same thing.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I'll let the others explain it too you.

No way, not again!!!!! Let him find out on his own... :blink:  :D

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

lol what a topic if you guys want to play with out supplies  go buy a pro pass and make battle with out supplies  And you know what supplies a tournament was held in sltv the name was hard style some thing like this  (not 3 style) that tournament is finished now in that tournament every thing was on u can drug  how much u want that was the first drugging tournament held in sltv  so most of clans take part in that and the winner got acid paint and many crystals

So, you, a heavy m2 drugger, came to an anti-drug topic just to complain about anti-druggers complaining about druggers.

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

No way, not again!!!!! Let him find out on his own... :blink:  :D

just buy a pro pass and play with out drugs (facepalm) tankers these days

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

just buy a pro pass and play with out drugs (facepalm) tankers these days

Just spend 5000 crystals a month just to make a battle 2 or 3 people will play in.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

^^^ (The one above Rail's comment.)

Hypocrites these days....